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Total War WARHAMMER II |OT| The age of dwarf is over. The time of the Waagh! has come!
- Thread starter karnage10
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Her lore is a bit weird, doesn't feel over the top like most GW LL. That said she looks so so cool!! Tempted for her on my first playthrough. I wonder what her stats are. THis will be the first ghost LL and most Ghost heroes are incredibly powerful against armies that don't have magic damage
LOL. It does indeed.
They added sartosa and we got VC. So WE rework with next patch? maybe a new LL to start in oreon?
IMO if araby has just 2LL it could fit near the tomb kings. There are a couple of provinces that have just filler factions
I'm nearly positive she'll have a crazy story in the end. No other good way to explain how a simple court singer became some crazy hate-fueled sea witch.
Yeah I don't really know if we'll see anything totally new. Maybe if they show off all the non-legendary lords that are supposedly recruitable. Also maybe the Merwyrm will be a unit? Probably not.
I think we still have quite a bit to see. Like the special lords, RoR, how many variants each type of unit has, spectral bretonians and the special militia company.
Hopefully we can also see the units
Most of the stuff looked FUCKING FANTASTIC.
Some units were a bit disappointing though, like the Sartosa special unit.
Some units were a bit disappointing though, like the Sartosa special unit.
So it sounded like they'll talk on Wednesday about some of the FLC stuff and then this weekend there's a multiplayer tournament where Vampirates will be playable.
From the stream via reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/9ocwlc/vampire_coast_roster_liveblog/
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/9ocwlc/vampire_coast_roster_liveblog/
What did you disliked about the sartosa special uni? They looked exactly what i expected. I just expected there would be more human units and less undead fodder.
The necroflex colossos, the leviathen and queen bess are much better then i expected. I also really enjoy the "wet" look of the units.
Main issue I have atm is I feel the faction is going to be kinda weirdly balanced. They'll either be like goblins with a ton of upgrades in the skill tree and lord trees so that zombies are actually stupidly good when fully upgraded and you'll stomp everything with your low cost super effective armies, or they won't be and then you'll have to basically stack a bunch of elite units all over and only end up with very few zombies because they're such poor units overall and it's just more efficient to run 8 depth guard than 8 zombies lategame once you can afford it.
I wish they added modular army size in TW:W2(Skaven were prime candidate for it) or gave some units half a slot in size or something like that, so you could field larger armies of crappy units or smaller armies of stronger units. With a 20cap on every army, it always makes more sense to just stack the strongest per slot you can get, especially with additional armies upkeep % increase(so you can't really just run around with 5armies of trash tier units because they end up as expensive as 1 elite army and 1 trash army over time).
Looks great otherwise, there's not that many units but there's a lot of variants and the units look pretty nice to play with. I tend to like ranged centric strategies too so having every other units with canons and firearms seems nice.
I wish they added modular army size in TW:W2(Skaven were prime candidate for it) or gave some units half a slot in size or something like that, so you could field larger armies of crappy units or smaller armies of stronger units. With a 20cap on every army, it always makes more sense to just stack the strongest per slot you can get, especially with additional armies upkeep % increase(so you can't really just run around with 5armies of trash tier units because they end up as expensive as 1 elite army and 1 trash army over time).
Looks great otherwise, there's not that many units but there's a lot of variants and the units look pretty nice to play with. I tend to like ranged centric strategies too so having every other units with canons and firearms seems nice.
There's nothing special about them and their axes looked like they were the same that Chaos uses.
Btw, full army roster reveal: https://www.totalwar.com/blog/curse-of-the-vampire-coast-roster-reveal
So the lore bit seems to be that she was sent off to sing for the Phoenix King. Storm comes up and the captain of the ship wants to turn around, she gets mad that she's going to miss her performance, throws him overboard and plows into the heart of the storm, trying to sing it away. The boat inevitably capsizes. She then comes back from the dead through sheer force of anger at missing her performance, so now she wants to sink Ulthuan under the waves with her so she can finally sing for Finubar.
Sounds suitably Warham to me.
Also that boat spell looks really cool.
Well the 3rd is from a DLC which Lizardmen don't have right now but will get eventually. And it makes sense to add a corsair LL to go toe to toe with the new pirates factions.
The VC changes sound fantastic. They've really got their own campaign map playstyle now, beyond just "spread corruption everywhere". It will be difficult to not just use them instead of the vampirates.
And karnage's island must be Lokhir Fellheart's starting position. The FLC's new playstyle sounds very interesting, but I admit I'm kinda bummed it's not Malus Darkblade.
And karnage's island must be Lokhir Fellheart's starting position. The FLC's new playstyle sounds very interesting, but I admit I'm kinda bummed it's not Malus Darkblade.
The new vampire mechanics being for Mortal Empires Only is a bit weird isn't it - dont rebalances normally affect both games? I fancied playing vampire counts but have always avoided mortal empires due to what everyone has mentioned about Chaos and the end game.
They're separate games, so no. Game 2 introduces a lot of new mechanics, and the new combined campaign, which has led to the Game 1 factions being kinda left in the dust. These updates are meant to bring them more up to par.
Including them in Game 2 is basically the way they keep Game 1 relevant, because you need to own the faction to play them.
They did the same for Dwarfs I think. Basically the game while similar work differently and changing TW:W1 would require different code than changing the race in ME, and that's not even far fetched when you look at the shit that happened with Norsca and how long it took them to fix it to add them to ME.
I like all about the new free-dlc and the VC updates. The new Dark Elf lord seems fun, Kelmmer finally gets is own faction in Bretonnia's mountains and new gimmicks, all the VC factions have some new techs and a new currency to get new Vampire lords from the 5 vampire clans, and the Carstein can recruit a small amount of human units (a cool nod to the all warhammer fans that are deep into the lore).
The only downside is that the new 4 vampire lords (the Strigoi one exist since the DLC) doesn't have fully new models, but I'm fine because it's free and I'm sure that the modders will do some cool things to them.
The only downside is that the new 4 vampire lords (the Strigoi one exist since the DLC) doesn't have fully new models, but I'm fine because it's free and I'm sure that the modders will do some cool things to them.
I love how much different the map feels with each DLC/FLC update. Suddenly there's just so much more stuff going on no matter who you play. Suddenly there will be freaking pirates roaming the seas and more spooky vampires that can't be held at bay with Untainted.
So from watching the factions fly by on the Stream whenever the guy clicked End Turn, it looks like Mortal Empires will be getting:
I'm also glad that turn times don't bother me.
- The four main Vampire Coast factions
- One minor Vampire Coast faction (unless others were already destroyed before start of stream)
- Lokhir Fellheart's playable Dark Elf faction
- Heinrich Kimmler's playable Vampire Count faction
- The return of Sudenburg as a minor Empire faction
- The return of Bowmen of Oreon as a minor Wood Elf faction
- At least 7 factions of a new version of Rogue Armies that have a blue stripe on their logo instead of red. If I had to guess, I'd say these are who Vampire Coast armies defeat for Pieces of Eight to unlock their Regiments of Renown (and that there was probably an 8th one that already got killed before the start of the stream).
I'm also glad that turn times don't bother me.
Yeah, the VC update looks great. In the late game when you unlock most of the buffs they will be crazy powerful.
Are the Tomb King quest armies always on the map? For some reason I thought it was only if you played them. Those are going to be crowded seas!
No, the Rogue Armies with the Books of Nagash only appear if a player is controlling a Tomb King faction.
It's apparently different with these Rogue Pirates, probably to add more content to the sea and make the new island battles more worthwhile.
However the armies that hold the verses to the magic sea shanty will probably only appear if you're actually playing as the Vampire Coast.
It's apparently different with these Rogue Pirates, probably to add more content to the sea and make the new island battles more worthwhile.
However the armies that hold the verses to the magic sea shanty will probably only appear if you're actually playing as the Vampire Coast.
This update looks so good. I have been looking for a new ME map.
I found this on the web
This has all the factions.
IMO Lustria still feels very empty, araby is suspiciously empty, empire is still empty, kislev deserves some love, the TEB factions should be playable, albion looks like a great position for a lizadmen LL, nagaroth should get a norscan LL and i think having a new WE playable faction in Oreon could be fun. If CA does all f this i think they complete all my wishlist for game 2
That said, do you guys remember this map?
I think we currently have more LL then there were factions in the base game. It makes you think how far this game has come.
I found this on the web
This has all the factions.
IMO Lustria still feels very empty, araby is suspiciously empty, empire is still empty, kislev deserves some love, the TEB factions should be playable, albion looks like a great position for a lizadmen LL, nagaroth should get a norscan LL and i think having a new WE playable faction in Oreon could be fun. If CA does all f this i think they complete all my wishlist for game 2
That said, do you guys remember this map?
I think we currently have more LL then there were factions in the base game. It makes you think how far this game has come.
i've been getting into watching some competitive Warhammer recently. It seems surprisingly well done even though there's obviously some match-up issues with how much faction diversity there is nowadays.
Are 1v1 battles popular or is it just a minority of people that play it?
Campaign is obviously still the main attraction.
Are 1v1 battles popular or is it just a minority of people that play it?
Campaign is obviously still the main attraction.
I think it's more likely that they'll shift around some existing LLs from the OG factions for some of the empty spaces. Spreading out the Greenskins, Empire, Bretonnians, and Wood Elves makes a lot of sense for ME due to how clustered they are in the Old World.
For the final DLC faction, Araby makes a lot of sense, but I'm still holding out for Amazons.
For the final DLC faction, Araby makes a lot of sense, but I'm still holding out for Amazons.
The lizard/rat DLC could definitely flesh out Lustria a bit LL wise. I don't know if all three should go there but two could probably fit.
And yeah hopefully Araby could be an upcoming DLC.
And yeah hopefully Araby could be an upcoming DLC.
Nah, i think they had originally planned to release the Lizard FLC lord with the new army pack but then realized it was more thematic to give the Dark Elf pirate with the army of pirates DLC.
According to the FLC schedule images they gave us in the past at least.
The Everchosen Halloween Invitational will start in less than two hours. They will play on the new patch which means we get to see the Vampire Coast and some of the other new stuff!
https://www.twitch.tv/totalwarofficial
https://www.twitch.tv/totalwarofficial
battletech DLC already? i have barely played the base game!
On one hand i can't play any cool DLCs most of November on the other hand my January holidays will be fun!
The infamous mechanics seems like it will be a lot of fun...