TotalBiscuit / John Bain's cancer has worsened ; retiring as a Game Critic, expresses future plans

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Tbalt

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Awful.

My father passed away a few years ago from Renal Cell Carcinoma. After the first year or so of treatment, it had spread to his spine, a tumor pressing against his spinal cord, which caused him to fall a few times and also caused a few instances where his speech would slur. It took three or four ER visits before someone finally realized it wasn't just a muscle sprain causing him shoulder pain, and scheduled an MRI. He had most of it removed surgically, and went in not knowing how successful it would be, or if he'd walk again. He spent the next several months willing himself to walk again. Eventually, he was able to get around with a cane, and later, he was a bit of a walking miracle. The surgery alone probably gave him another two years of life. Long enough to be at my marriage using a cane, and long enough to be present after his first blood grandson was born the following year (he already had a grandson, my step son, whom he loved like he was blood). He passed away in hospice care about four months later, having exhausted all his options for treatment. I saw my dad cry only twice during my life time. Once, when visiting his mother's grave (she had died during child birth when he was born), and he was fighting the tears when he held his grandson for the first time.

Cancer's a bitch. I hate it, and I hate it for those who have no choice but to fight it, and those who support them. It robbed my grandson of years' worth of memories with the greatest man I ever knew. Fuck cancer.

I don't know TB, but my prayers and well wishes go out to him, those that are treating him, and those that support them, just as it does as often as I can think to, to all those who face cancer. I hope that he comes out with a successful recovery and remission, but if not, then I hope for the next best thing for him and his loved ones - a few more memories.
 
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This.

Christ what a prickish thing to say. (Edit: the thing you were replying to, obviously)
Cancer is terrible and almost no one deserves the horror and suffering that comes with it. That doesn't mean you have to suddenly treat someone who's been an unrepentant asshole for a very long time like they're anything but. I understand commisirating with the suffering, less the support for his cruddy empire. Like I said, surprised of the support for his product here, not the shit he's going through. Those two things can be seperated.
 

saci

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Cancer is terrible and almost no one deserves the horror and suffering that comes with it. That doesn't mean you have to suddenly treat someone who's been an unrepentant asshole for a very long time like they're anything but. I understand commisirating with the suffering, less the support for his cruddy empire. Like I said, surprised of the support for his product here, not the shit he's going through. Those two things can be seperated.
Do you see people in this thread going
"WELL I SURE LOVED TB FOR THIS TIME HE WAS SUPPORTING OF GG AND THIS TIME HE WAS A DICK TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE!"?

No. They're talking about the content of his they loved. His WoW podcasts, his WTF series. The good stuff. No one here in this thread about his disease is talking about how they liked that he had shitty views. In a thread like this, they're remembering the good times. Jesus Christ, it's sad that something like this is still going on. Just as you said these things can be separated, so can his "good products" from his shitty views.
 

Razor Mom

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Cancer is terrible and almost no one deserves the horror and suffering that comes with it. That doesn't mean you have to suddenly treat someone who's been an unrepentant asshole for a very long time like they're anything but. I understand commisirating with the suffering, less the support for his cruddy empire. Like I said, surprised of the support for his product here, not the shit he's going through. Those two things can be seperated.
Read the room, dude. Seriously. I don't think this is the place.
 

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Cancer is terrible and almost no one deserves the horror and suffering that comes with it. That doesn't mean you have to suddenly treat someone who's been an unrepentant asshole for a very long time like they're anything but. I understand commisirating with the suffering, less the support for his cruddy empire. Like I said, surprised of the support for his product here, not the shit he's going through. Those two things can be seperated.
You aren't making it better.
 

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Cancer is terrible and almost no one deserves the horror and suffering that comes with it. That doesn't mean you have to suddenly treat someone who's been an unrepentant asshole for a very long time like they're anything but. I understand commisirating with the suffering, less the support for his cruddy empire. Like I said, surprised of the support for his product here, not the shit he's going through. Those two things can be seperated.
Eh, I think it's being a decent human being to show compassion to everyone. And deflection to his work is just showing a lack of compassion.
 

bender

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Some hopeful news. Best wishes to him.

The blurb about clinical trials is interesting. I had a friend battle with a brain tumor. His whole family were doctors, nurses or worked in the healthcare insurance industry and he couldn't qualify for any clinical trials. That is to say, his support network knew their way around the medical field. He was a bit older (in his mid-40s) than John so maybe that had something to do with it along with along with the type/location of the cancer.
 

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Unless clinical trials involved tortuous levels of pain, I couldn’t imagine not opting for it if qualified and faced with no other choice. At the very minimum, I’d help supply data for a potential cancer fighting treatment for others with the same diagnosis.
 

Castia

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He blocked me on Twitter years ago, we had a disagreement about his constant criticism of WoW and most things Blizzard although this company was keeping him relevant (WoW and SC2 were his main games)

In the light of his recent illness it all seems really pathetic, I wish TB all the best in his fight against cancer, fuck cancer btw.
 
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A doctor asking a patient personal feeling in regards to treatment isn't them telling you to stop said treatment. It's often to evaluate the patients state of mind in regards to things moving forward. It's also proper etiquette to relate to the patient all available paths forward which includes - yes, stopping treatment especially if treatment isn't working or for all intents and purposes is not likely to succeed. Aggressive cancer treatment can make whatever time a person has left into a miserable nightmare. And depending on the severity of the health issues, patients often express deniability to the reality of their health issues. Which is something else that a doctor needs to evaluate. His Doctor asking him if he's considered stopping treatment is not off-base at all in these circumstances.

Of course because Total Biscuit is in the right state of mind he has medical autonomy over himself so he can decided to do whatever he wants.
 

Seik

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God I admire his courage to keep on fighting that shit, with a positive attitude at that.

Godspeed man, beat that shit! Chances are low but miracles do happen.
 

Edward

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Been a big fan of his since his WOW radio days i hope he can pull through again i really like the guy.
 

LycanXIII

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Been following his battle with cancer, and his courage and honesty about it is nothing short of incredible. As someone else said here in the thread (which almost made me cry) I hope he's able to meet dodger and strippin child.
Dodger's in labor right now, so hopefully TB gets that chance, along with many more after it.
 

Ain't Nobody

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Shouldn’t be surprised that there are people that don’t comprehend the concept of an appropriate time and place.
 

Phil32

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He's truly inspiring me right now with his positive attitude through this. It's awesome to see him so resilient and not giving up. There's still hope, so keep at it!
 

Gentlemen

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IIRC his "support" for GG was in the beginning when the "ethics of game journalism" angle of it was fresh and had a little bit of truth. He bailed on it when it turned out to just be a group of people screaming about women.
He also downlplayed death threats against GG's targets but that's neither here nor there. Guy wants to live he should live.
 

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People attacking someone with terminal cancer because they didnt go with their side on something. There is no way you can spin yourself as a moral crusader when you are more concerned about kicking a terminal cancer patient over videogame bullshit, than actual any sort of human compassion.
 

DorkLord54

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People attacking someone with terminal cancer because they didnt go with their side on something. There is no way you can spin yourself as a moral crusader when you are more concerned about kicking a terminal cancer patient over videogame bullshit, than actual any sort of human compassion.
Eh, GG went beyond video games, especially since it's where SargonofAkkad, Milo Yiannopolous, and Mike Cernovich all came into prominence, with TB helping to lend the harassment movement credence. Not to mention that TB very callously dismissed death threats against Anita Sarkeesian.

I agree that we shouldn't kick him right now (and especially not in this thread since it's dealing with a probably-terminal ailment), but there are legitimate reasons why people have very vocal gripes about him.
 

LycanXIII

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Has he never met Dodger IRL? That doesn't sound right? Haven't they done panels at pax together?
Oh no, they've hung out in person a lot. She's having her daughter right now, and I was hoping that TB would be able to meet the child.

Edit: She was induced, so not in labor just yet.
 
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Aigis

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Never really followed TB, but I hope he gets better, cancer is some fucked up shit
 

dreamlongdead

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TotalBiscuit is an extremely gifted content creator, and he struck me as a very sensible guy.

I’ve been following this story for a while, and I simply hope that he can beat this disease. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
 

carlsojo

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I've worked as an oncology nurse for about four years. I understand his anger and reaction, but it's a good thing that his oncologist presents him with the option of going comfort care. It doesn't sound like he was pushing it but just showing him there's an option. I've seen so many patients wither away to nothing and die slowly and painfully. They or their family believe that they need to keep fighting. It was awful to see and it haunts me.
 

potatohead

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I had no idea he was dealing with this fuck

His reaction to the oncologist is understandable but that doesn't mean they were wrong to offer it that is in fact their duty

It would be wrong if they did not bring it up

mets to bone with refractory to chemotherapy isn't a good sign and some people don't even realize there is an option to do less or nothing at all

There are many varying degrees of what treating means in regards to cancer or other incurable diseases

Palliative care role comes in well before to manage symptoms even if there is never a decision to stop aggressive therapy

Demanding an alternative oncologist is his right but it would be honestly not changing anything except giving him a sense of control which is not necessarily a bad thing but simply that treatment is not likely to differ between oncologists based on a discussion like that they would even get the records from the current or past oncologist

The only thing that would be potentially different is availability of chemotherapy options between cancer centers
 
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carlsojo

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I had no idea he was dealing with this fuck

His reaction to the oncologist is understandable but that doesn't mean they were wrong to offer it that is in fact their duty

It would be wrong if they did not bring it up

mets to bone with refractory to chemotherapy isn't a good sign and some people don't even realize there is an option to do less or nothing at all

There are many varying degrees of what treating means in regards to cancer or other incurable diseases

Palliative care role comes in well before to manage symptoms even if there is never a decision to stop aggressive therapy
America has a real problem with talking about palliative care and end-of-life decisions. It's seen as "giving up" when really it's trying to give someone the best possible quality of life and ability to die with dignity.
 

potatohead

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America has a real problem with talking about palliative care and end-of-life decisions. It's seen as "giving up" when really it's trying to give someone the best possible quality of life and ability to die with dignity.
Yes it does I deal with it infrequently already but it is amazing how many people with near end of life have no prior discussions about their end of life plan or directives

Doing it in the ICU is what seems to happen very frequently and where I've done it most but for it to be done elsewhere there needs to be more support and push for proper primary care for people broadly here but there are many reasons why beyond political social economic and academic resistance to this
 

julealgon

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Every time I read about these cancer stories I get more frustrated. As a software engineer, I get really mad at developers who code without understanding the code first, and I end up applying this to doctors a bit: I have this constant feeling that the current doctors just don't know what they are dealing with at all, and that everything is trial-and-error based.

I thought about studying cancer myself just to see if I could come up with something... Maybe apply my methodical thinking to the problem, but alas, it's not what I like doing so it would be unlikely to happen.

I honestly feel like we need the Elon Musk of health at this point. Someone so incredibly passionate and knowledgeable, that would finally understand what's happening in the human body and propose a logical cure to this mess.

These days, at least here in Brazil, people become doctors only because of the money: Nothing else. This DOES NOT WORK. If there is no passion, there is no development. This applies to absolutely all areas.

When cancer spreads to other organs it's extremely rare for the patient to revover.
Is it even theoretically possible? Do we have a percentage to that?

I've always heard that cancer is incurable.

with Crispr and immunotherapy's they have made some minor breakthroughs in some forms of cancer, stopping/slowing metastization and helping in removal. I don't think it's crazy to say we're truly close to a serious breakthrough I'm cancer treatment
Again... I'm just not hopeful at this point. When will we stop with the trial-and-error approach and do something else? We need to "debug" the human code somehow... Do we need another Hitler to do that? Do we need to eliminate religion?

People don't fight against diseases, there's no effort a patient can have that'll improve his situation, especially when a point is reached where any treatment is merely paliative.
Is this really the case? I lost a close relative recently because they basically gave up: they starved to death instead of being killed by the actual cancer. I call that "not fighting".

;dr. cancer is really complicated
Is it though? It seems like everything is out of reach of doctors. The entire medical field is trial-and-error based. No one truly knows if a given food causes cancer. No one truly knows how a specific medicine seems to work from what I can tell. It's a massive pool of ignorance in the field.

That's horrible to hear, cancer is seriously one of the worst things on the face of this planet.
Agreed. So frustrating to have to keep dealing with such bullshit disease and have zero progress on actual treatment.

To really get an understanding of cancer, I suggest to read this book.

The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer
That sounds interesting, thanks for the link.

the sad reality and one I argued at the time was it was a case of when not if his cancer would kill him... It could be decades but it get him in the end...

No point trying to keep false hope that he could "beat" cancer at that point...

Once it metastasized... it's grim.
Again, do we even know that? Aren't there stories about "miracles" (i.e. ignorant people not understanding something) where the cancer completely healed?

However, and this is again me speaking from my own experiences in cancer research, I personally don‘t get my hopes up to live long enough to see a viable treatment readily available
It's sad to hear this, as it confirms my suspicion from the outside. Very, very frustrating.

John was never going to "beat" this form of cancer. The objective of his treatment was to prolong his lifespan as much as possible.
What about the "miracles"? There must be something that can be done, or else those "miracles" would not exist in the first place.

I lost my dad to cancer and he was one of the unfortunate ones who had massive, intensive pain from day 1 in his foot, and then for 5 months on end he had to be on constant pain medications and that only helped to some extent. It was just misery. Pure, pure misery and his last days probably hurt until his consciousness faded away. It was like watching someone die from invisible beating and violence.
This was painful to read. I feel truly sorry for you. Fucking disgusting stupid disease.

My mom learned today that she has no chance of remission or cure, and that her chemo is just a block as long as it will last.
Again, that's probably bullshit. We cannot accept that, just because we don't know how something works, that it's impossible. People believed that the sun was a god, how incredibly stupid is that in hindsight... Same thing with cancer i tell you. It is something stupid that is 100% curable, we just didn't figure it out yet.

As a person who's working in this field, all I can say is not even close
Yet again, I hate reading this. Why on earth are we not close? What are scientists doing wrong? Maybe we need more passionate scientists and less greedy ones.

Absolutely love this attitude. We need more people with such mindset.
 

julealgon

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Well I'm not accusing anyone in particular there (certainly not the person I was replying to). It's just my gut feeling that we have mostly unmotivated people working. Unmotivated people do not produce good results, they just wait for their paycheck in the end of the month. Software development is plagued by that and I'm positive it applies to every area, including health.
 

dusteatingbug

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Every time I read about these cancer stories I get more frustrated. As a software engineer, I get really mad at developers who code without understanding the code first, and I end up applying this to doctors a bit: I have this constant feeling that the current doctors just don't know what they are dealing with at all, and that everything is trial-and-error based.

I thought about studying cancer myself just to see if I could come up with something... Maybe apply my methodical thinking to the problem, but alas, it's not what I like doing so it would be unlikely to happen.

I honestly feel like we need the Elon Musk of health at this point. Someone so incredibly passionate and knowledgeable, that would finally understand what's happening in the human body and propose a logical cure to this mess.

These days, at least here in Brazil, people become doctors only because of the money: Nothing else. This DOES NOT WORK. If there is no passion, there is no development. This applies to absolutely all areas.



Is it even theoretically possible? Do we have a percentage to that?

I've always heard that cancer is incurable.



Again... I'm just not hopeful at this point. When will we stop with the trial-and-error approach and do something else? We need to "debug" the human code somehow... Do we need another Hitler to do that? Do we need to eliminate religion?



Is this really the case? I lost a close relative recently because they basically gave up: they starved to death instead of being killed by the actual cancer. I call that "not fighting".



Is it though? It seems like everything is out of reach of doctors. The entire medical field is trial-and-error based. No one truly knows if a given food causes cancer. No one truly knows how a specific medicine seems to work from what I can tell. It's a massive pool of ignorance in the field.



Agreed. So frustrating to have to keep dealing with such bullshit disease and have zero progress on actual treatment.



That sounds interesting, thanks for the link.



Again, do we even know that? Aren't there stories about "miracles" (i.e. ignorant people not understanding something) where the cancer completely healed?



It's sad to hear this, as it confirms my suspicion from the outside. Very, very frustrating.



What about the "miracles"? There must be something that can be done, or else those "miracles" would not exist in the first place.



This was painful to read. I feel truly sorry for you. Fucking disgusting stupid disease.



Again, that's probably bullshit. We cannot accept that, just because we don't know how something works, that it's impossible. People believed that the sun was a god, how incredibly stupid is that in hindsight... Same thing with cancer i tell you. It is something stupid that is 100% curable, we just didn't figure it out yet.



Yet again, I hate reading this. Why on earth are we not close? What are scientists doing wrong? Maybe we need more passionate scientists and less greedy ones.



Absolutely love this attitude. We need more people with such mindset.
no offense but this is an awful fucking post
 

Necromanti

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Every time I read about these cancer stories I get more frustrated. As a software engineer, I get really mad at developers who code without understanding the code first, and I end up applying this to doctors a bit: I have this constant feeling that the current doctors just don't know what they are dealing with at all, and that everything is trial-and-error based.

I thought about studying cancer myself just to see if I could come up with something... Maybe apply my methodical thinking to the problem, but alas, it's not what I like doing so it would be unlikely to happen.


Yet again, I hate reading this. Why on earth are we not close? What are scientists doing wrong? Maybe we need more passionate scientists and less greedy ones.
Maybe you should spend, at a minimum, 5 minutes on educating yourself about cancer research. But based on your post, I fear it may be lost on you, to put it politely.
 
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1upsuper

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Well I'm not accusing anyone in particular there (certainly not the person I was replying to). It's just my gut feeling that we have mostly unmotivated people working. Unmotivated people do not produce good results, they just wait for their paycheck in the end of the month. Software development is plagued by that and I'm positive it applies to every area, including health.
I'm unclear why you keep comparing medical research and treatment to developing software. The problems of your field do not reflect the problems of others.
I thought about studying cancer myself just to see if I could come up with something... Maybe apply my methodical thinking to the problem, but alas, it's not what I like doing so it would be unlikely to happen.
Your armchair musings that maybe you could pick up some imaginary slack in the field and shake things up if you wanted to is deeply insulting and arrogant.

Again... I'm just not hopeful at this point. When will we stop with the trial-and-error approach and do something else? We need to "debug" the human code somehow... Do we need another Hitler to do that? Do we need to eliminate religion?
I don't even know what to do with this.
 
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Well I'm not accusing anyone in particular there (certainly not the person I was replying to). It's just my gut feeling that we have mostly unmotivated people working. Unmotivated people do not produce good results, they just wait for their paycheck in the end of the month. Software development is plagued by that and I'm positive it applies to every area, including health.
Ah, interesting. But here's another question.

Can you not?
 

Nothing Loud

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Every time I read about these cancer stories I get more frustrated. As a software engineer, I get really mad at developers who code without understanding the code first, and I end up applying this to doctors a bit: I have this constant feeling that the current doctors just don't know what they are dealing with at all, and that everything is trial-and-error based.

I thought about studying cancer myself just to see if I could come up with something... Maybe apply my methodical thinking to the problem, but alas, it's not what I like doing so it would be unlikely to happen.

I honestly feel like we need the Elon Musk of health at this point. Someone so incredibly passionate and knowledgeable, that would finally understand what's happening in the human body and propose a logical cure to this mess.

These days, at least here in Brazil, people become doctors only because of the money: Nothing else. This DOES NOT WORK. If there is no passion, there is no development. This applies to absolutely all areas.



Is it even theoretically possible? Do we have a percentage to that?

I've always heard that cancer is incurable.



Again... I'm just not hopeful at this point. When will we stop with the trial-and-error approach and do something else? We need to "debug" the human code somehow... Do we need another Hitler to do that? Do we need to eliminate religion?



Is this really the case? I lost a close relative recently because they basically gave up: they starved to death instead of being killed by the actual cancer. I call that "not fighting".



Is it though? It seems like everything is out of reach of doctors. The entire medical field is trial-and-error based. No one truly knows if a given food causes cancer. No one truly knows how a specific medicine seems to work from what I can tell. It's a massive pool of ignorance in the field.



Agreed. So frustrating to have to keep dealing with such bullshit disease and have zero progress on actual treatment.



That sounds interesting, thanks for the link.



Again, do we even know that? Aren't there stories about "miracles" (i.e. ignorant people not understanding something) where the cancer completely healed?



It's sad to hear this, as it confirms my suspicion from the outside. Very, very frustrating.



What about the "miracles"? There must be something that can be done, or else those "miracles" would not exist in the first place.



This was painful to read. I feel truly sorry for you. Fucking disgusting stupid disease.



Again, that's probably bullshit. We cannot accept that, just because we don't know how something works, that it's impossible. People believed that the sun was a god, how incredibly stupid is that in hindsight... Same thing with cancer i tell you. It is something stupid that is 100% curable, we just didn't figure it out yet.



Yet again, I hate reading this. Why on earth are we not close? What are scientists doing wrong? Maybe we need more passionate scientists and less greedy ones.



Absolutely love this attitude. We need more people with such mindset.
What in the actual fuck is this post

You are not some genius that holds the cures to cancer while everyone else is unmotivated.

I'm prohibiting myself from reading your posts ever again.
 

Sibylus

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Every time I read about these cancer stories I get more frustrated. As a software engineer, I get really mad at developers who code without understanding the code first, and I end up applying this to doctors a bit: I have this constant feeling that the current doctors just don't know what they are dealing with at all, and that everything is trial-and-error based.

I thought about studying cancer myself just to see if I could come up with something... Maybe apply my methodical thinking to the problem, but alas, it's not what I like doing so it would be unlikely to happen.

I honestly feel like we need the Elon Musk of health at this point. Someone so incredibly passionate and knowledgeable, that would finally understand what's happening in the human body and propose a logical cure to this mess.

These days, at least here in Brazil, people become doctors only because of the money: Nothing else. This DOES NOT WORK. If there is no passion, there is no development. This applies to absolutely all areas.



Is it even theoretically possible? Do we have a percentage to that?

I've always heard that cancer is incurable.



Again... I'm just not hopeful at this point. When will we stop with the trial-and-error approach and do something else? We need to "debug" the human code somehow... Do we need another Hitler to do that? Do we need to eliminate religion?



Is this really the case? I lost a close relative recently because they basically gave up: they starved to death instead of being killed by the actual cancer. I call that "not fighting".



Is it though? It seems like everything is out of reach of doctors. The entire medical field is trial-and-error based. No one truly knows if a given food causes cancer. No one truly knows how a specific medicine seems to work from what I can tell. It's a massive pool of ignorance in the field.



Agreed. So frustrating to have to keep dealing with such bullshit disease and have zero progress on actual treatment.



That sounds interesting, thanks for the link.



Again, do we even know that? Aren't there stories about "miracles" (i.e. ignorant people not understanding something) where the cancer completely healed?



It's sad to hear this, as it confirms my suspicion from the outside. Very, very frustrating.



What about the "miracles"? There must be something that can be done, or else those "miracles" would not exist in the first place.



This was painful to read. I feel truly sorry for you. Fucking disgusting stupid disease.



Again, that's probably bullshit. We cannot accept that, just because we don't know how something works, that it's impossible. People believed that the sun was a god, how incredibly stupid is that in hindsight... Same thing with cancer i tell you. It is something stupid that is 100% curable, we just didn't figure it out yet.



Yet again, I hate reading this. Why on earth are we not close? What are scientists doing wrong? Maybe we need more passionate scientists and less greedy ones.



Absolutely love this attitude. We need more people with such mindset.
This post is rank: in most aspects wholly ignorant, in some specious, and in others downright disgusting. Engineer yourself into spending some time with the real world, real medicine, and real workers in such fields because holy shit. Yours is the worst display of arrogant ignorance one could think of, down to making googoo eyes at some miraculous tech genius and pondering fucking eugenics.
 

MGPanda

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These days, at least here in Brazil, people become doctors only because of the money: Nothing else. This DOES NOT WORK. If there is no passion, there is no development. This applies to absolutely all areas.
I'm sorry, but I don't think that's right at all. Obviously some people will become doctors for money, but as someone with close ties to a hospital, most people I know are really passionate about their jobs and will get completely involved with each and every single patient. Medicine has been evolving massively in the last decade, and yeah, we're not even close to finding the cure to cancer, but the amount of research behind it is insane. I think you underestimating doctors and researchers for being greedy and not passionate was completely unnecessary and rude.

EDIT: Read the rest of the post.
I thought about studying cancer myself just to see if I could come up with something... Maybe apply my methodical thinking to the problem, but alas, it's not what I like doing so it would be unlikely to happen.

we need the Elon Musk of religion

Do we need another Hitler to do that? Do we need to eliminate religion?
At first I thought that maybe you had some bad experiences in the past that led you to believe that most doctors are greedy, but now it's pretty clear that you're either trolling or just an asshole, and I'm leaning towards the latter.
 
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