I like quality games.
The first two reviewed better easily.
Seeing this game in action didn't inspire much confidence.
Maybe it is a proper Suda game, just not one of his better ones.
It's that simple.
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Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes - Review Thread
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The first two reviewed better easily.
Seeing this game in action didn't inspire much confidence.
Maybe it is a proper Suda game, just not one of his better ones.
It's that simple.
The entire issue with the coverage/promotion/reception of the game is that they didn't properly convey what this game actually is.
Also, if you want No More Heroes 3, don't worry. That's all I'll say.
Also, if you want No More Heroes 3, don't worry. That's all I'll say.
A lot of people were unsure and left reviews to be the deciding factor.
But despite the reviews highlighting a big issue I had with NMH2 (pacing), I'll pick the game up anyway.
It's not fair to look at people and go "you were never going to buy the game" if they were turned off at mentions of repetitive gameplay and levels that go on too long.
You can't just "well, you're just mad it wasn't NMH3" everyone.
I usually want to support weird stuff as well but the state of the game isn't great.
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I posted this earlier in the thread but I'm going to post it again as I feel it's the best response to this post.
If you're going to pass on Suda games because of reviews then that's on you, chief.
Well, it is a review thread after all...I posted this earlier in the thread but I'm going to post it again as I feel it's the best response to this post.
If you're going to pass on Suda games because of reviews then that's on you, chief.
D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die, from Swery65, has like a 67? on Meta and is one of my favorite games this gen. Same can be said about The Missing, his latest game, it has a 75 or something but it's a fantastic experience.
Numbers aren't a good way to judge art, I'm a journalist myself and I'm sick of them.
Numbers aren't a good way to judge art, I'm a journalist myself and I'm sick of them.
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I'm just saying it's not best practice to get too hung up on review scores. There's a bunch of great games out there with shit scores. Metacritic and review culture in general can be a bit too much sometimes.
Wish more outlets would opt for getting rid of numbers altogether like Kotaku and Polygon.
Talking about anomalies...
Then again NMH are much more straightforward than one would expect.
Fair enough.
The Wonderful 101 didn't review great and I thought it was one of the best action games ever.
And the first one is much more memorable than 2 (with some exceptions like the soundtrack).
This is a wacky spin off that pays homage to old ass games sold for a reduced price. You don't like that? Don't buy it, but don't say it isn't what you wanted because we've known this for a while and the game you're actually asking for is in fact coming.
Did you read any of the reviews or are you assuming complaints from the scores.
"Several levels went on an hour longer than I would've liked" isn't jank.
I like this quote from this review (currently the highest rated review).
http://gamingtrend.com/feature/reviews/absolute-madness-travis-strikes-again-no-more-heroes-review/
It reminds me of when I first bought No More Heroes. That day I was actually going to buy Bayonetta, which was the title I had already demo'd and was more excited about. But I had money left over and figured I'd buy a Wii game that was in clearance. My friends all recommended Muramasa because of how highly rated and stylistic it was, but on a dare I just decided to get No More Heroes instead. I figured I'd just play it for a few hours and put it down before Bayonetta.
I couldn't put it down the entire weekend. It introduced me to the world of Suda in the best possible way, all because I decided against being a tourist and went away from the beaten path. Getting into a Suda game is a risk, but it's one that pays off. For me it did so in spades.
And with TSA being at budget price and how widely diverse these opinions are sounding, I do reckon there's quite a few people out there who should take a similar leap without much harm. Step into the madness. Take a risk and allow insanity to reward you. Even if you don't enjoy it, it's guaranteed to be something you've never quite experienced.
http://gamingtrend.com/feature/reviews/absolute-madness-travis-strikes-again-no-more-heroes-review/
It reminds me of when I first bought No More Heroes. That day I was actually going to buy Bayonetta, which was the title I had already demo'd and was more excited about. But I had money left over and figured I'd buy a Wii game that was in clearance. My friends all recommended Muramasa because of how highly rated and stylistic it was, but on a dare I just decided to get No More Heroes instead. I figured I'd just play it for a few hours and put it down before Bayonetta.
I couldn't put it down the entire weekend. It introduced me to the world of Suda in the best possible way, all because I decided against being a tourist and went away from the beaten path. Getting into a Suda game is a risk, but it's one that pays off. For me it did so in spades.
And with TSA being at budget price and how widely diverse these opinions are sounding, I do reckon there's quite a few people out there who should take a similar leap without much harm. Step into the madness. Take a risk and allow insanity to reward you. Even if you don't enjoy it, it's guaranteed to be something you've never quite experienced.
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Just so happens that the two most accessible Suda games that practically established his international reputation (with the exception of Killer7) are his best reviewed huh?
Funny how that works.
As someone who was discouraged to buy this game because of the reviews - it's not the numbers what I care about. Even the positive reviews warn you to look past the rough edges, the consensus is almost universal in that you don't pick up this game looking for gameplay.
I really, really don't care about MC scores and I love lots of games which scores way below 70 which is honestly not even that bad.
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More like people who have actually played a Suda game before. His games are always in the 7-8.5 range. You play them for the writing/experience, not for a GOTY contender
I'm not really surprised that it's not good so looks like I made the right call in not going for this. Didn't look that great from the beginning and everything they've shown didn't help or increase my confidence. Definitely not worth for $40 for the physical or even digital copy. EA giving it a 5.5 was a nail in the coffin for me. But seeing other outlets such as IGN and Gamespot sharing the sentiment with 6s only added to it.
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Thanks for the response, and I get that. I had some B&H rewards credit stored up, so it's a $0 risk for me (only cost is my time). Guess that's about as good of a "wait for sale" as it's gonna get for me. :) If I end up not liking it, I'll sell it here on on eBay. But I do need to see this for myself.
I've seen enough to feel confident in buying it. There's a couple of outliers here and there, but i think i'll enjoy it and its preloading now.
Haha that's awesome...and meta!I posted this earlier in the thread but I'm going to post it again as I feel it's the best response to this post.
If you're going to pass on Suda games because of reviews then that's on you, chief.
None of these reviews could possibly have swayed me, I'm there day one. I'm curious to know, though, Ben Moore's reasoning in the Easy Allies for such a notably low review, from a reviewer I definitely respect. I'm seeing that spoilers are circulating so I'd rather avoid them at all cost.
Could anyone summarize Easy Allies' review?
Could anyone summarize Easy Allies' review?
Using his words, he found it dull and disjointed and thought the "Suda" moments were few and far in between. You can just play the review without watching it. He describes how to take down an early boss and tells you what the second game is. Nothing spoilery.
Ya I hear you and like I said in the review I think some folks may indeed get some...enjoyment out of it. But what surprised me was how much a lot of the Suda moments felt watered down and then for long periods in the later game sort of died out. Once you get it would love to hear your impressions after a couple levels
I was concerned about spoilers myself but I watched it because I was highly interested in why he scored it that way. Basically the level design sucks. It's just room after room of waves of enemies. Not enough variety.
Btw if you were on media blackout like myself and didn't even know who player 2 is, the review spoils the beginning of the game.
It's okay to have games that are controversial here or there. Imagine if everything we got were safe, excellent games like idk Smash Ultimate. The industry would be even duller than it already is.
And I love Smash, don't crucify me. I'm talking about artistic freedom here.
And I love Smash, don't crucify me. I'm talking about artistic freedom here.
Well thanks for sparing me from learning that uninvited. In the past Ben's been prone to spoiling one detail or another, revealing quite explicitly one of the later plot developments of Valkyria Chronicles Remastered and its ending, for instance.
Was there any hint in the review that he was disappointed that TSA isn't a larger and more direct successor to NMH 2?
No, he said the game goes for a more arcade experience, but doesn't know how to make it work (roughly paraphrasing).
He does mention that nmh 1 and 2 had more of a hook with their "focus and flair" which are lacking in this game. So while he doesn't directly say he was disappointed that this game wasn't a more direct successor, I think if it were more robust with the features from those titles he would've liked that better.
Heh, yup. Just from a different perspective!
I believe if this game had a hub world where you could do random jobs or other mini games it would've been more to everyone's liking. But I honestly know jack shit about the game and am buying it regardless lol
I've only watched one review. Just going off what little I know.
That's pretty awesome. I hope it's just fun to play and kill enemies. The co-op is appealing to me as well.
NMH had variety. Enemy AI was a factor. Not everyone went down in a hit.
But yes, the exact same gameplay, just from a different perspective.
How are people in good faith gonna say NMH1 and 2 arent about their gameplay when the main pull of the series has always been the boss fights and satisfying (if repetitive) combat. Destroyman isnt character people love for the sake of it, both his fights are insanely memorable to play.
Having better pacing would help it be comparable to SoTC which was also very boss focused. Just that SoTC was more about solving a puzzle than reaction and timing.
Having better pacing would help it be comparable to SoTC which was also very boss focused. Just that SoTC was more about solving a puzzle than reaction and timing.
It's been so long since I even played the first game I don't remember the regular enemy behavior whatsoever. I do remember suplexing certain dudes though :p
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Enemies and general combat variety in the NMH games were maybe a toe's length ahead of a Musou game. It was always blasting through trash mobs to get to the boss ASAP.
W-what are you trying to say here? You haven't played the game, but you think the gameplay is better because the previous games were just...fun and stylish...I HAVE to be missing something.
