TREASON, TRAITOR: Trump considers withdrawing from Open Skies Treaty (monitoring russian troop movement)
- Thread starter Greigor the FellHand
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It allows its signatories to conduct unarmed aerial surveillance flights over the territory of other signatories, which includes Russia and is extremely useful to spot military movements and possible acts of aggression, such as a new invasion into Ukraine. If Trump withdraws and Russia also withdraws as a result the only way to spot those military movements would be via satellite.
My armchair popcorn theory so far: the timing between this and the decision to pull out of Syria (or at least, the attempt to) is too much to be simple coincidence after he's been largely quiet on stupid foreign affairs moves aside from stupid posturing with China. My belief is that this was supposed to be a move that has been planned for but wasn't supposed to be executed until later, after he'd won his second term.
Basically, try to keep things reigned in until 2020, and once he won that, the mask really comes off and he could fully steer our policy into pro-Putin territory. After beating the charges from the Mueller report, the groundwork started being laid to smear Biden, win the election, and then make this turn. But the whistleblower complaint wound up getting leaked despite initial attempts to contain it, and the Dems have actually acted on it with an impeachment inquiry, which continues gaining support. Now that the Biden investigation scheme has been blown up prematurely, Trump (and his allies in Russia more particularly) probably realize that 2020 is a lost cause now, so the call was made to expedite things and hope that as much Russia-useful policy as possible is enacted before Trump is ousted and a Democratic president takes his place in 2021.
Basically they've realized that the long con isn't going to work anymore, so they're ditching any remaining attempt at subtlety and pushing the issue to get America's teetering over with quickly, whether Republicans stand up and re-establish actual democracy, or relent and we go full fascist.
Basically, try to keep things reigned in until 2020, and once he won that, the mask really comes off and he could fully steer our policy into pro-Putin territory. After beating the charges from the Mueller report, the groundwork started being laid to smear Biden, win the election, and then make this turn. But the whistleblower complaint wound up getting leaked despite initial attempts to contain it, and the Dems have actually acted on it with an impeachment inquiry, which continues gaining support. Now that the Biden investigation scheme has been blown up prematurely, Trump (and his allies in Russia more particularly) probably realize that 2020 is a lost cause now, so the call was made to expedite things and hope that as much Russia-useful policy as possible is enacted before Trump is ousted and a Democratic president takes his place in 2021.
Basically they've realized that the long con isn't going to work anymore, so they're ditching any remaining attempt at subtlety and pushing the issue to get America's teetering over with quickly, whether Republicans stand up and re-establish actual democracy, or relent and we go full fascist.
Possibly. That tweet provides more rational. I'd like more sources to ensure this isn't all political gamesmanship. That said, obviously our president has zero credibility.
I like his panther lamp. Can I get one if I betray my country? Or can I just pick one up at the local IKEA?
"Donald, execute order 66."
Trump was the only one who folded every single fucking time
Was that a Dear Hunter reference in a PoliEra thread?
I'm...I'm so proud...
They can, they just don't give a fuck. They're complicit and traitorous themselves.
Pledging fealty to their white supremacist is the only important thing in their eyes.
That is also in the linnk of the tweet, im not saying shes spurious. I'm saying the confirmation hasn't been confirmed yet.
Trump casually admits the reason behind this was a birthday gift during a chopper talk
Not just Trump, for that sort of scenario there would have to people close to Trump who are in on it too, blackmailed or not to get such a thing going through channels. Possibly tin foil hat stuff but you have to wonder who else is compromised or willfully working for the enemy.
This is legitamatelly insane. Between this and the Syria pullout, Trump is sewing absolute chaos in our foreign relations. He is going to cause ireparable harm to our country if he is not impeached soon!
"He was just joking. Laying a trap for the lamestream media."
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Are you saying that the Chair for the House Committee on Foreign Affairs is possibly lying?
I don't understand all these post requesting further confirmation
The chair is saying its being talked about. The tweet says it is already happening.
Its really not the complicated
Putin and Erdogan started putting pressure on Trump once the impeachment investigation opened in case he gets removed. "Do what we want or we release the dirt on you" which is a much stronger threat when public opinion is continuing to grow in favor of impeachment.
That's my guess.
That's my guess.
In my excitement I read this as Trump is getting the chair lol.
The people I was responding to said 'we need more information before drawing conclusions,' 'this may be political gamesmanship,' etc. I was never referring to the tweet. People seem skeptical this is true. Not sure why when the Chair is freaken revealing that the Trump admin has been quietly planning this. Do you think the Chair for the House Committee on Foreign Affairs would write an official letter like this based solely on rumors?
Maybe a year ago I'd say this is hilarious conspiracy theory bs. Now?...
The Russians can't be enemies, they're white, straight and believe in a Christian God.
The real threat is all those colored, sexual degenerate, non-Christian, abort-baby, anti-gun types that have the gall to want to be treated equally. If Russia wants to put a stop to them, is burning America really too high a cost? At least it'll burn as a White America...
Puppet is still a puppet; no surprise here.
Unfortunately, that seems like a very likely scenario.
Unfortunately, that seems like a very likely scenario.
You mean the Republican party that sent 8 Congressmen to spend last 4th of July in Moscow, rolling over for their Russian counterparts?
I guess Putin realizes Trump was even less competent than expected, and at the very least looks to fail re-election.
Word must have come down for Trump to speed run his puppet agenda.
Word must have come down for Trump to speed run his puppet agenda.
The letter says "considering withdrawing." Not "planning withdrawal," and certainly not "withdraws" like the title says. So yeah, the thread title is super clickbaity.
The Trump Administration has "considered" a lot of heinous shit that never went anywhere.
