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Trevor Noah has tone deaf response to backlash over his India-Pakistan comments [update: apologized]
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He's not half the host/comedian John Stewart was, the original joke was terrible, and his response is just deflecting and not actually accepting any fault.
"People offended at my hateful joke are actually the real baddies because they should actually be mad about the conflict".
"People offended at my hateful joke are actually the real baddies because they should actually be mad about the conflict".
France didn't take African players for the world cup squad. All but 2 of them were born in France.
Didn't expect it from Trevor. I really didn't expect that reply from Trevor either. Disappointing.
American hate has been there tbh.
American hate has been there tbh.
I thought it was funny. He is poking fun at Bollywood dance numbers, not Indian accents. As someone who grew up watching Indian movies and hating how they cut to long song numbers every five minutes, it's good to finally see Americans joke about it.
If anything, Indians should be happy that mainstream media is making fun of Bollywood. We finally made it!!!
I wonder how many Indians and Pakistanis in this thread are upset by this. I showed this to my friends and they all laughed.
If anything, Indians should be happy that mainstream media is making fun of Bollywood. We finally made it!!!
I wonder how many Indians and Pakistanis in this thread are upset by this. I showed this to my friends and they all laughed.
I'm not going to argue Trevor's point because I don't necessarily agree with it. But to be clear his whole point is that it doesn't happen in opposite direction. (i.e. player with French heritage playing for African nations). So Africans are happy with what they can get. Sort of like Kenya embraced Obama.
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Most South Africans are not aware of Gandhi's racism. His statue still stands proud in the town where I grew up in SA. The idea that Trevor dislike Indians because of Gandhi is absurd.
I mean he explicitly said this multiple times. Just because ALL South Africans don't know this it doesn't mean he doesn't. Ghandi REALLY bugs him. (I learned about Ghandi's racism from Trevor)
From past material it seems when he is not familiar with something or it is outside his cultural experience this sort of joke is what he falls back on.
Being able to tell comedians that you think their joke was shitty should be banned
Since when has insensitive racial jokes been an American thing? Please tell me.
There is so much wrong with this that I can't even come up with a sarcastic response like I intended to.
Yes. Noah however tried to take their Frenchness away from them, actively calling them an "African team", thereby denying them their choice of being French.
Since forever. Sure not soley an American thing, but it is an American thing.
What is strongly correleted with America though is the arrogance he displays in his response claiming his joke trended more than the subject itself. Just one of endless examples of Americans claiming to be more important than they are.
This is because people usually aren't sorry about what they said. They shouldn't be apologizing if they don't regret what was stated, it's easier to know where they actually stand that way.
Finally? Mate it's all non Indian/Pakistanis joke about when it comes to bollywood and have for years, eventhough a growing portion of bollywood movies aren't musicals filled with dance numbers and it has been so for many many years.
That's the reason I don't agree with him. He is basically dismissing players who are considering themselves as Frech. But I do see where he is coming from. It's definitely a different view on this issue than you would typically get in the West.
You know what's the bigger arrogance? That people like you think wherever you're from is a bastion of racial tolerance free from these type of jokes or racism. That's the biggest arrogance.
Ya, thats not good. I will say I think comedians should be able to make jokes about sensitive issues, but this one lacked any kind of enlightenment of the situation and really just fell flat. Its nothing more than a stereotyped non sequitur
lol, when did I ever say anything like that? My country (Britain) is racist as fuck.
I understanding hating Ghandi but extrapolati g that hate to all of India is racist
That is the implication of your post smart guy. Saying something like this is American, is saying it doesn't happen in any other countries. Give me a break.
I said the arrogance was American, never did I say the racism was American.
I'm not excusing it. I'm just pointing out that his view on the issue most likely comes from his South Africa upbringing and not America.
No, I am not. I say what I mean. You are infering from what I say something which I never implied.
The only jokes i see about south Asians are taxi driver jokes, terrorist jokes if they are Pakistanis, and Indian accent jokes.
This is literally the first time I've seen a mainstream comedian make a Bollywood joke.
The implication is there I'm just cutting through the bullshit.
I'm biased and yet your own bias which started this argument is ok. That doesn't make any sense.
No, you started the argument by claiming
which was false.
I defended him at first. I thought he showed potential. But he 100% lost me with the France World Cup thing.
It's one thing to make a joke that misses the mark, especially when dealing with complex political issues. Sometimes you're just gonna land on the wrong side despite your good intentions, it happened to Jon Stewart too. But my problem with Noah is that it seems like he never wants to learn from his mistakes and he always doubles down and tries to ridicule or dismiss any push-back.
It's one thing to make a joke that misses the mark, especially when dealing with complex political issues. Sometimes you're just gonna land on the wrong side despite your good intentions, it happened to Jon Stewart too. But my problem with Noah is that it seems like he never wants to learn from his mistakes and he always doubles down and tries to ridicule or dismiss any push-back.
No, your post was based on what you infered from my post but the thing is I never implied anything so your inference can only have come from your bias.
You implied that Trevor Noah jokes was based on American arrogance even though he's a foreigner and doesn't even get American politics correct. You came to this thread incredibly biased and I called you out on that.
Man this is so off the mark. I've seen Indian culture be reduced to Bollywood by almost every person outside of India/sub continent, and I don't even mean just as a joke. Which is what makes this bit so lazy and bad.