Well, yeah. He is right. Iran has responsibility but when it comes down to it those people would fucking be alive if it wasn't for trump's shit.
lolHonestly, the real problem is Iran not having more sophisticated anti air defenses, that's the real culprit here. Canada should help Iran built better automated systems that don't shoot down commercial planes, that's how they improve the security of Canadian citizens
This is bullshit. Multiple posters even defended the assassination.Stop playing dumb. This was never about about "defending Trump", but simply not minimising Iran's responsability and shoehorning a political agenda for some posters.
Did you read his post?
The provincial government cut funding to the tech sector so this is going to take a bit longer.
The man has met with each of the families of the victims, and has been seen crying with them. I can't imagine how hard that must be, to sit and listen to raw emotion like that. He's pissed but has to do this properly by the books, to try to get justice for them. But still, absolutely no fucks given when openly talking about the contributing factors like this.
its good to hear out loud in public
no longer whispered 2nd hand accounts
Gotta correct on that one, sir. Trump's interests are trump's interests. He could care less about the USA.
JT could go over there and single-handedly Rambo the entire region and it wouldn't have an ounce of impact on the right's opinion of him or his party or the left in general.God, if scheer if was PM right now ot only would we be invading Iraq, but he probably would have opened up investigations into all the democratic candidates.
JT could go over there and single-handedly Rambo the entire region and it wouldn't have an ounce of impact on the right's opinion of him or his party or the left in general.
Ha you're totally correct.Sure it would. They'd call him a warmonger and demand his resignation.
Are you not just as much at fault for defending a totalitarian regieme if you generalize like this, if people don't like to live under fascism they ldefend Trump?
This is what conservatism has always been. Hence the term 'reactionary' which first popped up in the French Revolution.Sure it would. They'd call him a warmonger and demand his resignation. Conservatism isn't a position anymore. It's just a knee jerk contrarianism to anything liberals do.
It's pretty shocking that so many try to absolve Trump of responsibility. Like yeah it gets tiring having a thread every time he hits the toilet, but on this he literally was the aggressor. It's very clear cut and he can't be blameless even if Iran is mainly at fault
Do you see what iranians are shouting on the street today? Is this the official 343/microsoft stance?Not sure how anyone could answer otherwise but I expect a bunch of butterfly effect whataboutism - iran shouldn't have had a revolution all the way to Iran shouldn't have been mad when trump killed the nuclear deal
you already have?
Do you see what iranians are shouting on the street today? Is this the official 343/microsoft stance?
Only about 30%-40% of the us interest. The rest he don't care.Trump wont care. His interests are the USAs interests and that's as far as his consideration will go.
A reasonable world leader who doesn't recall wearing brownface.
Are you not just as much at fault for defending a totalitarian regieme if you generalize like this, if people don't like to live under fascism they ldefend Trump?
Just today a very famous journalist/ spokesperson of an iranian news station stwpped down after 11 years, because her consciousness didn't allow herself to lie to the iranian people anymore during these heavy protest and after the cover up of the murder of civilians.
And she has to fear the wrath of a fascist leadership, mods here wouldn't even step down for fear of losing intenet dick inches, after doing a fascists regime work of censorship.
mods here wouldn't even step down for fear of losing intenet dick inches, after doing a fascists regime work of censorship.
Funny that, eh?
A reasonable world leader who doesn't recall wearing brownface.
Trump is partially responsible for escalating tensions but Iran had the power to ground those flights.
What military would allow the airspace to be open after beginning the military attack and also keep the airspace open AFTER the plane was destroyed. Oh wait...they denied that even happened for a few days.
Stop playing dumb. This was never about about "defending Trump", but simply not minimising Iran's responsability and shoehorning a political agenda for some posters.
Shooting a civilian plane leaving your own airport is not an easy mistake to makeThey escalated tensions to a ridiculous degree, it doesn't take much for a mistake to happen after that.
Shooting a civilian plane leaving your own airport is not an easy mistake to make
Had US voters not elected the SOB this wouldn't have happened. I blame the voters.
the politics surrounding this hardly needed to be "shoehorned" Iran didn't just say "BWAHAHAHA let's shoot down this plane because we're EVILLLLLL"Stop playing dumb. This was never about about "defending Trump", but simply not minimising Iran's responsability and shoehorning a political agenda for some posters.
Did I say in my post they both don't have blame? They both have partial blame as I said in my post.When you pull a gun on someone and the other person pulls a gun back and someone innocent gets shot in the chaos that ensues ... both of those parties have blame.
They escalated tensions to a ridiculous degree, it doesn't take much for a mistake to happen after that.
Did I say in my post they both don't have blame? They both have partial blame as I said in my post.
That doesn't soften the fact Iran tried to cover up the lives of their own civilians and foreigners by saying that either A. the plane had faulty parts, B. No way we'd do that and Deny, and finally C. the plane "entered" into a zone its not supposed to after fessing up.
Iran is a modern nation with a modern military, there are protocols to be followed, otherwise there are larger questions as to their competence.
I can't believe this "mistake" is being allowed to be downgraded and called a "mistake" after significant denial of taking people's lives. The Iranian government must've known for some time what happened. There had to be a chain of command in allowing that SAM to operate, target and fire on an aircraft.