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Trump: "3000 people didn't die in Puerto Rico"
- Thread starter BWoog
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No. That health and emergency services who calculated the death toll straight up lied at the democrats behest to make him look bad, otherwise his own government still official toll of less than 100 and 'huge suceess' relief efforts are lies.
It's just another vile case of his lying until it's true, believe me over the media spiel he NEEDS his followers to believe. Thus he turned a tragedy political.
If enough of us come out and vote we can nullify those things. In fact, in a big enough wave election gerrymanders can actually work against you depending on the type of gerrymander it is, so it's important we overwhelm the polls.
There is nothing more important right now than this upcoming election. We can drive a stake through Trump if we take back the Senate on top of the House.
This. If Dems can take back control of both houses, they'll kill Trump's ability to get anything done until 2020, barring executive orders, which just makes him look like a hypocrite.
Of course best best case scenario is we take the house and run the table on flipping seats in the Senate, then get either Murawski or Collins to flip, and impeachment with removal from office is assured. Won't happen, but it's a nice dream.
At this point he's just trying to see how far he can go. This really is a new low
I wish it was as easy as just voting, but I live in California where over 4 million votes didn't really count in 2016 because of the electoral college.
I wish it was as easy as just voting, but I live in California where over 4 million votes didn't really count in 2016 because of the electoral college.
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One would hope so but until November, Florida is considered to be the best chance Rs have at flipping any D seat.
Nail this motherfucker with investigations after nov. He's fucked if he thinks the press is bad now. Things are only going to get worse from here on out.
I'm in California, too.
First, we always need to be voting because we need to keep this state blue. It wasn't always that way. If we slack off we lose our grip. Consistent pressure over time is how things actually change in politics and voting is a part of applying that pressure.
Second, there's a lottt of other important races and initiatives to vote for besides just the President. Your vote for President may be diminished here by the electoral college, but it's just as important for all the other things on the ballot.
One day, we'll find ourselves arguing that the sky is blue just because the orange fuckwit says it isn't. Can't believe he isn't just being met with mockery and disgust and people actually support his comments.
From someone replying to a post my cousin made on Facebook and I'm now irrationally angry from reading it:
Sociopaths gonna sociopath no matter how many fucking people die.
Sociopaths gonna sociopath no matter how many fucking people die.
"moved to this country", but they were alrea- ... fuck it
(to say nothing of "they're not for us anyway so fuck em", that last part is implied)
All these conservative morons jumping on this boat to agree with him. Do you know why Trump is claiming 3000 Americans didn't die in PR? He told you, right in the open. It makes him look bad. Once you understand how narrow the lens of himself he looks through everything with is, you'll understand how almost every dumb claim he makes works.
The number makes him look bad, so he denies it's true. That's it. There's no deeper thought or basis to any of it, and the idiots on Fox going "Uh uh uh yeah they were totes inflated", like he was actually making a real claim, are beyond the pale.
Now consider that he does this for everything he thinks makes him look bad, and that absolutely everything in his mind revolves around him only, and that he sees everything in binary, either "good for Trump" or "bad for Trump".
The number makes him look bad, so he denies it's true. That's it. There's no deeper thought or basis to any of it, and the idiots on Fox going "Uh uh uh yeah they were totes inflated", like he was actually making a real claim, are beyond the pale.
Now consider that he does this for everything he thinks makes him look bad, and that absolutely everything in his mind revolves around him only, and that he sees everything in binary, either "good for Trump" or "bad for Trump".
It legitimately shocks me to see my government not just look at a statistic of American deaths and claim they did a good job in the situation, but to go further and claim that the number of death people who suffered horribly and are still mourned by their loved ones didn't just die due to their negligence but didn't die AT ALL. To claim their deaths DON'T EXIST.
It's monstrous.
It's monstrous.
Regarding FL senate candidate Rick Scott:
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1040608888679280640
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1040608888679280640
The media is so afraid of being accused of bias that they end up normalizing bullshit.
Notice the only thing they say is false is the Dems thing.
Government response to a crisis both federal and local dictate the fucking survival rates of the victims man come on. You can't just somehow wash your hands of a US territory because arbitrary reasons. If things were lacking then that's literally a BIGGER incentive to fucking act, not a reason to ignore.
I seriously don't get it. They are already seen as 'fake' and biased by the entire Trump base. They might as well lean into it. They are actively damaging the country by normalizing and giving him the benefit of the doubt on what are clearly outright LIES.
Not 'mistruths' not 'mispoke' ninety percent of the time anything he says is a bald ass LIE
Pretty much. What he's saying still comes off as 'Puerto Rico was this bad beforehand, and we did nothing to help them with this issue.'
It's the same effect imo that allows Trump supporters here to stay as long as they only boast about loving him because of economics.
There's a weird desire to prove those who say liberal bias, progressive haven, etc... wrong and the result is overcompensation that does no one any good.
I like this image
As a Californian it's crazy to me that half of those states combined would have less people than just the city of Los Angeles. New York City has millions more people than those states combined.
And it's kind of infuriating that states like them can have more say in elections than we do.
its a fools errand attempting to find rationale in the musings of an irrational garbage pile.
Ask that piece of shit to post the links to the stories 'he's read'. I want to see what his fucking sources are, though something tells me deep in my bowels that I already know what they are.
There are literally people dying in a CURRENT HURRICANE and this is where Trump's mind is.
Yeah, and this.
I also fail to see how that quote does him any good. If 70% of the power was out before the storm, doesn't that just further prove how little the government cares about puerto rico? jfc!
Unfortunately, we're at that state in American society where 60 million Americans will applaud casually disregard the death of anyone not white as either irrelevant, or an improvement to American quality of life. And if Real Americans die in the effort squash the proliferation of fake Americans, who aren't 100% local the white people are, who obviously always been on the North American continent and aren't immigrants or colonists, then those are acceptable losses. Love of country is being overrun by racism.
My blood pressure- I can feel my temple throbbing. And I am a Canadian.
The media should be calling this shit out front and center and put the sources front and center so that more people know that the burden is on Trump and his fuckboys playing white knight for him. These wack ass headlines just make it easier for some backbone-lacking fence sitters to sit there and continue to ask where the numbers are coming from or that they are exaggerated or any other lame answer.
Newsflash for them... when you normalize bullshit and treat it as "equal time for both sides", you are exhibiting bias. Against reality.
They don't have more say, those 5 states only have 16 electoral votes combined, compared to California's 55.
If you are saying that individual voters in those states have more power, then yes. However the electoral college system is not designed to give equal voting power to each individual citizen. It is mean to help represent each state as an independent entity. The US is republic of states, not a pure democracy. In a pure popular vote system, no-one would ever travel or even care about anyone in those states, they would be ignored. I am not saying the EC is a perfect system, but it has its merits.
They do, however, have 10 senators. Compared to California's 2... and Puerto Rico's 0.