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Trump admin refuses to sign Christchurch pact to combat online extremism
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The pact is very vaguely worded, has the potential to be widely abused by abusive governments, and calls for states to pass laws on speech online which have a pretty bad track record of success. And the White House is ultimately correct that they would not pass the US constitution.
Trump is a shitshow, but ultimately it is difficult to see how any American government could have signed the pact as is, ever.
Trump is a shitshow, but ultimately it is difficult to see how any American government could have signed the pact as is, ever.
sounds logical.
Bullshit.
It calls for no new laws, just read it.
https://www.christchurchcall.com/christchurch-call.pdf
Bullshit.
It calls for no new laws, just read it.
https://www.christchurchcall.com/christchurch-call.pdf
It's not vaguely worded. It doesn't recommend anything beyond being support of voluntary industry(social media) standards and the government offering information on how to spot propaganda by extremists as well as sharing info about credible threats to other governments.
That would be like identifying your own family in a police line-up, of course they didn't sign it.
No shit they didn't. That's their base, brothers, sons, uncles, father, it's their family.
Edit: He beat me to it, but what DOBERMAN INC said.
Edit: He beat me to it, but what DOBERMAN INC said.
Did you get this info from Fox News?
Newsflash, they're nothing but propaganda and lies. Just an FYI.
Lol not vaguely worded.
It literally says governments will "consider regulatory or policy measures".
So non-vague you've missed critical points of it's text?
Not American. Heck, Fox News is banned in the UK.
I read the actual text. I think it's bad.
Was it ever even proven that the attacker wansntone of those very fine people on both sides???
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As telling as this is, I highly doubt the likes of Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon will take any significant action given how lax -- nay, complicit -- they've been in all this.
When will Americans learn people are too stupid to govern themselves?
I'm fine with them "considering" measures. If things are done correctly, that "considering" would be well discussed and implemented.
(granted Trump would just ban anyone that is pro progress and good while hanging out with Racists....I mean "good people")
I'd love to see it banned here.
Oh dear lord. Holmes was staunchly anti First Amendment in Schenck and upheld the conviction of someone who used speech to protest conscription and US involvement in WWI
Please use Brandenburg v. Ohio in the future. It's just more constitutionally responsible.
This is the important bit to remember:
And fuck Trump to high hell for not supporting this because he knows his base is made up of these scumbags.
Does consider mean implement? Has the definition changed without me knowing?
That court case was overturned decades ago.
A reminder: "shouting fire in a crowded theater" at the time of that decision meant a presidential candidate advocating resistance to the military draft could be jailed. Those days are long past in the USA - that decision was overturned in 1969 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio
Not surprising in the least since most of that admin came from that ilk. They aren't going to condemn their own family. Only others.
Bah gawd, someone might "consider" something "consistent with a free, open and secure internet and international human rights law" and then where will I be able to see PewDiePie pay people to say kill the Jews?!
As others have said, it's "will consider" not "will implement". It may seem like just a stone throw away if you look at it purely logically, but you have to understand that there is a heavy distance between the two in reality because of how these types of things operate. Like, it would be a huge deal if the wording was changed from "consider" to "implement", a real historical moment.
Seems like this kind of hand-wringing for something that has not even fully started is kind of missing the forest for the trees, which at this point is to get a conversation started with everyone around this rising problem. We're being poorly served since now we don't have a voice in this movement.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wh...acebook-youtube-instagram-and-twitter.117204/
Nah it's because Trump wants to actively encourage extremism. This is a tool for right wing extremists to report moderation by social media platforms as censorship to the US federal government.
More that 30 million have answered that question of self reflection with
And then didn't look back.
But don't call them out on it IRL or you're bullying them or some shit.
This.... seems like something that warrants massive reactions from the US general public no? How's it looking over there?
My impression was that any mentions of terrorism should get a visceral reaction from Americans, at least way more than a 2 page thread on Era.
.....is it because it's the wrong skin color again in Christchurch?
My impression was that any mentions of terrorism should get a visceral reaction from Americans, at least way more than a 2 page thread on Era.
.....is it because it's the wrong skin color again in Christchurch?
Trump about to unveil a new American flag with rats anus' replacing stars.
Seeing as white terrorists tend to be right wing conservatives, why would be attacking his own kind?
I've said it in every one of these threads but trusting the major tech companies to be able to responsibly censor without impacting the left is a fool's errand. Considering how big and integral to people's lives some of them are they barely register as private. Government probably wouldn't be great either in it's current form but I can imagine one where it was.
Google signed this... Yeah, I don't believe for a second that they will ever give a shit about Nazis using their platforms unless it hurts them financially.