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Trump Administration Freezing Fuel Efficiency Requirements
- Thread starter Cruxist
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That reasoning is pretty garbage. As fuel prices rise you'll save more by buying a fuel efficient (and smaller for the love of god) car.
Unless automakers want to make a bunch of USA-exclusive cars, this probably won't change much. Other countries still have regulations in place and a new president could easily bring back the 2025 goal. There's also the R&D money they've already invested, along with the fact that no one wants to be the car company that suddenly gets shot MPG.
On the brightside this might let companies produce more low-selling performance vehicles without worrying about fleet emissions.
On the brightside this might let companies produce more low-selling performance vehicles without worrying about fleet emissions.
You give him too much credit, he merely wants to destroy a black mans legacy. His racist lizardbrain can't think farther than that.
Aren't a lot of US cars pretty much only designed for the home market? You don't really see those trucks in Europe or Asia...
The real question is... How quick can they undo all the damage these asshats have done???
This is already the case. Cars sales are dipping drastically in the US while SUV and Truck sales are booming.
Do people really miss inefficient vehicles? This is a piece of regulation that will have next to no impact on the industry after it is removed - the market for gas guzzlers does not exist anymore and the cost of fuel isn't going down
Uh, have you seen american automotive sales recently? It's dominated by the most inefficient vehicles.
Once again, under right-wing rule, we are squandering years of progress and improvements in safety and health while paying MORE for it.
Conservatism is a fucking mental disease.
Conservatism is a fucking mental disease.
Just sign an executive order for every single one, then strip that power from the president.
Fix the bullshit Trump pulled, then protect against another Trump.
As someone who closely follows the automotive industry, I will say that I always thought those targets were a bit too high in so short a time. It was very unrealistic to get to that fleetwide level without a huge change to primarily hybrid/electric vehicles; which, I agree with the Trump administration does raise the median cost of vehicles and that effect is already noticeable. This has the side effect of creating the current American automotive economy where people are taking longer loans, and many believe there is another economic bubble building in automotive lending like the housing market in 2008.
On the other hand it has pushed automakers to more efficient and cleaner vehicles they wouldn't have done so quickly otherwise, and we've seen some recent surprisingly big breakthroughs in gasoline engine technology (such as the widespread adoption of gasoline direct injection, and most recently, Mazda and Infiniti both developed seriously amazing new technologies in Skyactiv-X and VC-T) I believe as a direct result of this legislation.
I despise the Trump administration, but I think a freeze (as long as it's not a rollback) may be a prudent move.
On the other hand it has pushed automakers to more efficient and cleaner vehicles they wouldn't have done so quickly otherwise, and we've seen some recent surprisingly big breakthroughs in gasoline engine technology (such as the widespread adoption of gasoline direct injection, and most recently, Mazda and Infiniti both developed seriously amazing new technologies in Skyactiv-X and VC-T) I believe as a direct result of this legislation.
I despise the Trump administration, but I think a freeze (as long as it's not a rollback) may be a prudent move.
It's interesting to notice how far "both sides" rhetoric flies when the topic is science denial.
Only one party literally denies reality while their moronic base cheers them on.
Only one party literally denies reality while their moronic base cheers them on.
My optimistic take on this is that it won't matter too much - US companies will still need models that conform to EU standards and the EU manufacturers will keep doing their thing, and none of them will want to simply pretend the Obama standards are dead forever since a future president could reinstate them. Any tariffs Cheetolini can impose on autos can also be wiped out with the next president so the US manufacturers won't want to be caught with their pants down. Probably still sell shitloads of big giant trucks while they can but with the knowledge it might be a short lived gravy train.
I mean, a lot of this stuff is effectively symbolic, since you can't actually run a business assuming Republicans hold the presidency forever.
You also start to run into state based regulations in very large markets. I imagine a lot of companies would have preferred dealing with how the federal government defined net neutrality rather than how liberal states are going to end up doing so.
You also start to run into state based regulations in very large markets. I imagine a lot of companies would have preferred dealing with how the federal government defined net neutrality rather than how liberal states are going to end up doing so.
I believe most global automakers will simply continue to strive for targets already set, and once again, ignore this administration in order to remain competitive and conform to other standards.
eg, when they initially announced plans to change efficiency standards, people at Nissan and Toyota publicly shrugged.I figure there will be more "whatevers" from the industry as standards continue to improve anyways.
eg, when they initially announced plans to change efficiency standards, people at Nissan and Toyota publicly shrugged.I figure there will be more "whatevers" from the industry as standards continue to improve anyways.
The automotive loan bubble is real, I agree.
This does leave the car companies in a difficult spot, both in money invested in meeting the 2025 goals and still having to meet state goals for fuel efficiency.
I wonder where the "1,000" lives a year saved number came from. I'm not snarking, I'm curious as a thousand lives a year is nothing to scoff at. Of course, you'd have to weigh that against deaths caused by air pollution....
For all those clutching at their pearls, you do realize that 70% of all U.S. new auto sales are trucks and SUVs, right? Unless and until gasoline is well over $4/gallon even in low tax states, there's not going to be a change in consumer behavior, and there's demonstrably not a great demand for more fuel efficient cars (there's also far less profit for manufacturers).
But even SUV/Trucks are substantially more efficient then the past. My wife's new CRV gets 34mpg in the highway. 10 years ago that would be unheard of on a SUV that size
I mean, this is the group that listens to the current sitting president say to not believe your own eyes and ears.
1984 shit for real.
When gas prices dropped for the last few years sales of trucks and SUVs increased, because they felt they were able to afford the cost of fuel now (which could never possibly go back up).
He wouldn't do that, there's a market there and money to be done.
However, taxing electric cars? Now that's possible. :lol
I have an '08 Ford Fusion SEL V6. A lot of new SUVs/crossovers are much more fuel efficient than my little sedan. Hell, the F-150 is just as fuel efficient as my car (18/26 vs. 20/26). Even if I bought a big truck, I wouldn't be worse off fuel economy wise thanks to these requirements. Buying a larger vehicle doesn't necessarily equate to buying a gas guzzler these days. What Trump is doing is once again a regressive tactic purely intended to help boost the profits of big auto companies.
