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Saya

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The U.S. Department of the Interior, which oversees the National Park Service, announced plans Tuesday to increase entrance fees at 17 parks during their busiest five-month periods as a way to raise new revenue for infrastructure improvements. Under the proposed fee change, beginning next year, entries for cars would jump from $25 to $70 between June 1 and October 31.

"One of the basic ideas from the very beginning was that parks would be accessible to all Americans regardless of income level," said Jim Northrup, who retired in January from his position as superintendent of the Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. "When you take an entrance fee at a national park and you increase it from $25 for a seven-day pass for a car to $70, that is a huge increase and is going to be a real deterrent for many people to visit national parks."
 

TheStrxggler

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Oct 25, 2017
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Welp. Didn't want to see that Supervolcano in Yellowstone up close anyway.

Still, that does really suck.
 

Everyday Math

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Oct 25, 2017
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Laille

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Oct 25, 2017
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You could raise revenue for infrastructure improvements by not wasting taxpayer money on golf outings every week too, Donny.
 

ahoyhoy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fatboy probably hasn't been to a park in decades.

Too much walking and not enough gold.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Is this how they plan to get back at the National Park Service for rebelling against the administration early on? This is such a shame. The national parks in the US are so beautiful and they should be easily accessible for everyone
 

THErest

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gut environmental protections.
Almost triple national park entrance fees.
???
Profit.
 

Pirate Bae

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I understand the wanting to improve infrastructure for the parks but this ain't the way to do it.

National Parks cost just as much as amusement park tickets. Smh.
 

captscience

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's actually a very legitimate conservation argument to be made for reducing the number of visitors to some our most popular National Parks. Overcrowding has become quite a big problem.

That said, raising fees probably isn't the best way to go about it, and obviously this administrations doesn't give a damn about the environment.
 

MilkBeard

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Oct 25, 2017
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Those parks are going to be real empty. For shame. There's a reason why things like this should have low-priced entry. We can see where this is going too.
 

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Increase price massively
Attendance drops like a stone
Trump: "Look! People don't use our national parks, lets sell them to private companies!"
America's natural heritage is destroyed
Putin: "All according to keikaku..."
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Increase price massively
Attendance drops like a stone
Trump: "Look! People don't use our national parks, lets sell them to private companies!"
America's natural heritage is destroyed
Putin: "All according to keikaku..."

Seems like a reasonable scenario with the Trump admin. Well, Putin probably doesn't give a damn about parks being destroyed.
 
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Raising prices may bring down attendance but there's been a real problem of people ignoring park rules and getting animals as well as themselves hurt or killed these last few years despite constant and repeated warnings. Let's not act as if allowing everyone acces is a good thing either.
 

Dernhelm

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Oct 25, 2017
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Guess someone showed him how much his golf trips were costing, and hell if he isn't paying for his own golf trips.
 

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Raising prices may bring down attendance but there's been a real problem of people ignoring park rules and getting animals as well as themselves hurt or killed these last few years despite constant and repeated warnings. Let's not act as if allowing everyone acces is a good thing either.
I just kinda suspect this is lower on the list of reasons for the GOP
 

JonnyDBrit

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Oct 25, 2017
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Increase price massively
Attendance drops like a stone
Trump: "Look! People don't use our national parks, lets sell them to start getting at that oil!"

Based on what I understand of recent political feuds over the national parks, this I imagine would apply for a number of them.
 

brochiller

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Oct 25, 2017
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Trump needs to watch Ken Burns documentary about our park system.

Spoiler: the tile is national parks: america's best idea.
 

TwntyOneTwlv

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Oct 25, 2017
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The fat motherfucker continues to be a massive douche. The fact that he keeps surprising me might be an indictment upon myself at this point.
 

Ithil

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Increase attendance fee to drive down visits, then go "oh look no one goes to our parks" and then say they should be sold off to fossil fuel companies.
 

Dyle

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On the one hand the big parks have been absolutely swamped in the last two years, something about the 100th anniversary last year suddenly made people realize they exist, but such a gigantic increase, even if solely for the peak period is insane, especially given the federal government could raise the funds for infrastructure improvements without even having to make big cuts elsewhere. Something has to be done to alleviate the crowds that have been causing significant damage to the parks, but this is very far from the right solution.
 

Sorian

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Oct 25, 2017
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Didn't he cut their funding at some point last year? Subsidizing it back on the people again?
 

Goat Mimicry

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Oct 25, 2017
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My dad loves the national parks and enthusiastically voted for Trump.

Part of me really wants to rub this in his face.
 

Septimius

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Oct 25, 2017
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I guess the ??? is to sell off some of the land for industrial purposes. I hope it doesn't come to that, but with Trump you have to prepare for the absolute worst.

Of course. Once they apply the new fee and no one visits, Trump can say no one cares about the national parks, and sell the land to someone that will pay for it.

Increase attendance fee to drive down visits, then go "oh look no one goes to our parks" and then say they should be sold off to fossil fuel companies.

See! It's only logical
 

ahoyhoy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Decrease the attractivity of a public service so they can justify cutting support? Learning from the Tories I see.

Couldn't wrap my head around such a huge increase but this makes a lot of sense.

Who the fuck increases the cost of something three fold unless there's extreme Scarcity or you're up to nefarious shit.
 

Couleurs

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Oct 25, 2017
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From a selfish perspective I'm ok with this. I live pretty close to Rocky Mountain National Park and it gets insanely crowded with people littering everywhere so hopefully this helps with that. Plus annual passes (usable at every park) are still $80 (for now anyway) so they become an even better value.

Hopefully this doesn't lead to hurting smaller parks that want *more* visitors, unlike RMNP which has talked about limiting the number of visitors allowed to enter since overcrowding is such a major issue.
 
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peteykirch

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I understand that some people will be upset having to pay for something that should be free, because 'Merica, but I don't see the real issue of going from 25 to 70 to get in.

For most people who visit these majestic parks, it's a planned out vacation that usually involves a lot of travel and other expenses, if an extra $45 is going to deter you, then well you maybe shouldn't be taking vacations.

Hell, if we're looking at a $ per hour versus return on happiness and enjoyment a $70 car pass for a week blows away what it costs an average family of 4 to go see a movie with snacks/drinks in a major metropolitan area.
 

Ray Wonder

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Bit more expensive for sure. Wonder how much it would impact the budget for upkeep and the salaries of the people who maintain the parks.
 

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"When I said immigrants, I meant tourists, too!! MAGA"
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