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Trump Calls For Ban On all Flavored Vapes and e-cigarettes
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It doesn't really matter what the second amendment says, the right to bear arms is mentioned, and thus is harder to ban, or enact laws regarding gun ownership then it is to ban something that isn't a garunteed right to own.
TIL: people don't either prohibition, or their own protests against keeping drugs illegal.
Vaping is (by current understanding) less dangerous than cigarettes, but more dangerous than nothing. Fun flavors help attract nonsmokers to pick up a bad habit. By keeping the tobacco around, it's essentially grandfathering in those who are already addicted: my dad, who's smoked for longer than I've been alive, can still get his fix in a less harmful manner, but my nephew won't think "hey, that smells nice, give me a hit."
Yes ban regulated liquids and create an even bigger illegal market for bootleg stuff, which is most probably the main culprit for the deaths in the first place.
That'll work out well.
That'll work out well.
I guess he'd rather everyone smoke cigarettes or buy unregulated black market juice and cartridges.
How about instead you legalize marijuana, regulate it, and destroy the black market in the process which is likely where these issues are coming from?
Also - its hilarious they act so quickly on this to protect big tobacco, but people are getting shot on the regular and we cant do shit about that.
GTFO
Also - its hilarious they act so quickly on this to protect big tobacco, but people are getting shot on the regular and we cant do shit about that.
GTFO
No real need. They've already got a replacement: good old cigarettes. Kids liked 'em just fine before ecigs came along. They'll go right back, as will adults. Problem solved.
While it's true it's harder, since when has not just outright doing whatever he wants been something Trump shies away from?
"Advocating"
Huh? On that last part. I'm not advocating anything. I'm stating he says and does whatever he wants. Not that he should...he's a pile of trash that needs to be dumped ASAP.
That's putting words in people's mouths (posts). WTH?
Democrats barely have the will to ban guns outright, why would Trump? Also, I'm not sure you want to go down the road of advocating that Trump just do whatever he wants...
Not sure what this has to do with e cigs tbh. E cigs and vapes are pretty popular among smokers as the "safe" alternative.
Yeah, I remember when the flavors from major American tobacco companies were mysteriously exempted from that. It's almost like it was only intended to squeeze out the tobacco lobby's competitors.
Why stop at guns? Processed and fast foods? Vehicles? If this administration and country is so worried about what people are putting into their lungs why are we doing away with environmental protections? Violent movies and videogames are surely training our children how to be psychopathic killers. Sports are dangerous also, especially for developing children. I see hikers die all of the time in the local news. What are we doing about hiking? And don't even get me started on small planes.
Opioids? Nah, those are cool.
These instances of death are largely attributed to black market THC carts filled with vitamin E acetate, causing lipid pneumonia, leading to death.
Legalizing MJ nationwide allows it to be federally regulated, meaning what people are smoking is "healthier" than what people get from Joe Drug Dealer down the street.
Because the majority of cases involved cbd carts which used vitamin e acetate to make it thick like the real stuff, because they're knocking off knockoffs and don't have a way to get everything they need to make it right.
We think they were bought from shady dealers.
B-bu-but, guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.... just like vapes and e-cigarettes don't kill people, people who vape kill, uh... what?!
The recent "outbreak' of lung illnesses that the media keeps attributing to 'vaping' appears, almost certainly, to be the product of cutting agents or 'thickeners' containing Vitamin E acetate, being used to dilute the contents of THC carts. So, this kind of has everything to do with marijuana legalization and strict regulation of ingredients being used in THC carts.
Welp, that wraps it up for JUUL
Today i learn EBF is more street than I am.
It's because flavored juices appeal to kids/teens. That's at least the narrative being pushed. JUUL had to stop selling flavored juices in stores because of the teens buying all the mango carts.
I understand that there are legitimate concerns about vaping but man if this doesn't solidify my "old people only criticize vaping for being because young people do it" reaction.
That's how I was. Now I can actually run or use an exercise bike and haven't had bronchial infections for years like I used to.
Full HHS statement out
Because the 6 deaths were from THC carts using vitamin e. This is what we have garnered from the 14 vape threads we had this past week.
So Trump doing this move is classic idiot Trump attacking the wrong fucking problem. He's a goddamn moron.
Edit: Answered ad infinitum above
So many people in here drive by posting without realizing what they are even talking about. Just like trump, many are misinformed on this recent outbreak of deaths attributed to vaping. PLEASE do the research!
This isnt from JUUL carts or the Vape juice you fill your rig up with (unless they are cut with Vitamin E, which they most likely are not). This is from black market THC carts that are cutting their juice with Vitamin E to make it thicker.
For the record, one of the big identifiers of your THC cart being fake is how runny the liquid is. Hence why people are cutting their black market juice with Vitamin E.
This isnt from JUUL carts or the Vape juice you fill your rig up with (unless they are cut with Vitamin E, which they most likely are not). This is from black market THC carts that are cutting their juice with Vitamin E to make it thicker.
For the record, one of the big identifiers of your THC cart being fake is how runny the liquid is. Hence why people are cutting their black market juice with Vitamin E.
Hundreds? If you're going to be an advocate, please make sure your numbers are correct.
The problem is that Trump is attacking JULL and vape juice. He is going after the wrong culprit.
I understand the most reasonable motive behind this is for Trump to fill coffers with donation funds from the tobacco industry, but it's wild how Era's position on addictive substances being marketed to children is to become outraged that someone would want to ban them (a lot of posts aren't outraged at Trump's reason for banning them, but at the thought of banning them regardless of reason and setting up straw men arguments for why they shouldn't be banned). If you want to vape, then suck on some tobacco flavored vape juice; it'll be available. You're addicted, it won't matter.
I'd be in favor of a flavor ban prior to the current contamination news.
I'd be in favor of a flavor ban prior to the current contamination news.
Well, some of them are also stuck with the less than popular HEETS.