I think if even one person picks up smoking or switches from vaping to smoking as a result of this policy change, it will be an immense failure as a public health policy...and I guarantee you at least one person will.
US Food and Drug Administration would be putting out "some very strong recommendations" regarding the use of flavored e-cigarettes in "a couple of weeks."Cigarettes killing for years, no action. Guns killing for years, no action. One report on vaping having negative health effects, BAN IT!!
Screw Trump.
Where's this idea coming from that nothing has been done against cigarette companies?Cigarettes killing for years, no action. Guns killing for years, no action. One report on vaping having negative health effects, BAN IT!!
Screw Trump.
Kids have smoked tobacco flavored cigarettes for decades. This won't keep kids from smoking. This isn't about keeping kids from smoking.US Food and Drug Administration would be putting out "some very strong recommendations" regarding the use of flavored e-cigarettes in "a couple of weeks."
I think the thought process is he wants the flavors banned so kids are less likely to use it.
I don't think that's a ban on vaping.
Not nearly as much as it will kill their competition.People still don't understand that the tobacco industry is heavily and deeply invested in vaping now. Trump isn't doing this as a favor to them. This will almost assuredly hurt them.
That's okay. Philip Morris and British-American Tobacco are there for you with IQOS and glo.It will also drive all of those adults who quit smoking for vaping, back to smoking. So much for harm reduction, right?
Banning flavors that adults also use isn't going to stop people from smokingUS Food and Drug Administration would be putting out "some very strong recommendations" regarding the use of flavored e-cigarettes in "a couple of weeks."
I think the thought process is he wants the flavors banned so kids are less likely to use it.
I don't think that's a ban on vaping.
People still don't understand that the tobacco industry is heavily and deeply invested in vaping now. Trump isn't doing this as a favor to them. This will almost assuredly hurt them.
It's amazing that we can ban this shit because of incomplete scientific studies with no proven cause, but not guns or actual cigarettes, which have been killing people for much, much longer.
Have to imagine they make a lot more off selling a pack of cigarettes vs a vape product. Cigarettes are dirt cheap to produce.
Smoking by kids plummeted in the 90's and 2000's, vaping has pretty much undone all that work to stop kids from smoking in less than 5 years.Kids have smoked tobacco flavored cigarettes for decades. This won't keep kids from smoking. This isn't about keeping kids from smoking.
The ban on flavored juice will kill a large portion of the juice industry that competes by offering different flavors. The FDA regulations as initially proposed in 2016 were so onerous that they'll put most e cigarette companies out of business if enforced. This will very likely kill the parts of the vaping industry that aren't owned by big tobacco. It will also drive all of those adults who quit smoking for vaping, back to smoking. So much for harm reduction, right?
Finally doing something good love this tired of ppl vaping near me lol
Ahh this makes more sense now.Kids have smoked tobacco flavored cigarettes for decades. This won't keep kids from smoking. This isn't about keeping kids from smoking.
The ban on flavored juice will kill a large portion of the juice industry that competes by offering different flavors. The FDA regulations as initially proposed in 2016 were so onerous that they'll put most e cigarette companies out of business if enforced. This will very likely kill the parts of the vaping industry that aren't owned by big tobacco. It will also drive all of those adults who quit smoking for vaping, back to smoking. So much for harm reduction, right?
There are other ways to make money when vapers become smokers.
The study, led by Professor David Hammond of the University of Waterloo, found that among those 16-19 years old, vaping increased by a stunning 74% from 2017 to 2018, from 8.4% to 14.6%. The study was conducted in August/September 2017 and again in August/September 2018.
The study presents the first data since the major tobacco companies launched and heavily advertised their own e-cigarette brands in Canada following the May 2018 adoption of Bill S-5 which legalized e-cigarettes with nicotine. The study results are consistent with indications from across Canada of high schools struggling to respond to a rapid increase in youth vaping.
Evidence indicates that youth who use e-cigarettes with nicotine may become addicted and are at increased risk of becoming smokers.
The study also found that cigarette smoking among 16-19 year-olds in the same 2017 to 2018 time period increased by 45%, from 10.7% to 15.5%. Prior surveys up to and including 2017 had shown a continuing decline in youth smoking. However, these concerning results indicate that youth smoking may now be increasing.
Also I thought that people vape because it's "healthier" than smoking? Why would just banning the flavors make them go back to smoking?
Because people love conspiracies that there's zero evidence for and even if it were true, which, again, there is no evidence for, it has nothing to do with whether or not such moves nonetheless have merit and are worth taking all the same due to the effects of e-cigs (particularly on youth smoking rates). Even if you want to sllege some conspiracy there's no actual evidence for, that's not reason this shouldn't happen all the sane if the neruts are there. Tobacco can be evil and vile at the same time there can be other evils as well, and valid reasons steps like this should be taken all the same so it's really neither here nor there even if that were to be true because either way, either those other reasons steps themselves valid, or they aren't and that's what people should be focusing on, IMO.So flavours are only getting banned, not a outright vaping ban.
Why does this smell of tobacco trying to stop competition?
There are other ways to make money when vapers become smokers.
Because I have been told countless times that people switched because it isn't "as bad as cigarettes". How does this change without the flavors?Are you seriously asking, "Why would taking the flavor out of something make people not want it anymore?"
Nah I dont care about that its era not an essay lol
It had dropped by such a significant amount it was almost entirely eliminated.
That's just my personalityjust saying it was a little hard to read, it was like a stream of consciousness sentence
Are you seriously asking, "Why would taking the flavor out of something make people not want it anymore?"
Thats kinda scary now that i think about it. I trust my supplier thoIt's usually mixed with same shit in nazi gas in black market, the main cannabis oil sellers are random packaging companies using a public brand name to sell whatever
Couldn't you presumably just sell plain juice that contains nicotine, and then "on the side" sell flavor juice that can be added to the nicotine juice?
Because I have been told countless times that people switched because it isn't "as bad as cigarettes". How does this change without the flavors?
But you bring up a great point in that getting rid of flavors would be great as it would make kids less likely to start.
If you remove the child friendly flavors and leave the shitty tobacco tasting ones, why would people who switched to vaping for the health benefits or to quit smoking go back to cigarettes instead of continue with vaping?
They wouldn't, but now tell us what to do with the kids who get sick from trying to flavor their own juice because they don't know what they are doing?...
If you remove the child friendly flavors and leave the shitty tobacco tasting ones, why would people who switched to vaping for the health benefits or to quit smoking go back to cigarettes instead of continue with vaping?
They wouldn't, but now tell us what to do with the kids who get sick from trying to flavor their own juice because they don't know what they are doing?
See the above chart. Look at what flavors are most popular among adults who used ecigs to stop smoking cigarettes.
Broken clock right twice a day etc. etc.
fuck these cotton candy apple pie assholes. flavored poison. let it taste like what it is
Just buy a club membership. much cheaperHe'll change his mind when Juul donates a couple of million dollars into his campaign.
You're making an "uncool" assumption. Smoking went down in popularity across ALL groups, not just kids, because of the millions killed by combustible cigarettes. Vaping is not seen that way and that will not change based on not being able to pick up custard flavored vape juice.over the long-term overall vaping will become less "cool" instead of skyrocketing in use among teens as it has for the last decade
short-term yeah that is a legitimate problem that I don't have an answer to. So was how easily cigarettes used to be to get when I was a kid and smoked non-stop for over decade. I got past it and hopefully many today will as well. Doing nothing though and ignoring the problem is helping no one.