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tedtropy

Member
Nov 14, 2017
77
The fact that the interview isn't plastered all over the Fox News site clues you into how well they felt that went. The more this moron talks, the more he incriminates himself...
 

a916

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,836
I feel like I've heard more sane people calling in after a sports game than this dude.
 

Catdaddy

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,963
TN
So if this was "A Few Good Men" – this would be Tom Cruise calling Jack Nicholson up to the stand and Jack saying "You're not going to ask me about the Code Red I ordered are you?"
 

Viriditas

Member
Oct 25, 2017
809
United States
"There's a phony cloud over my head that doesn't exist" is just...what.

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Buckle

Member
Oct 27, 2017
41,100
How did Fox News think this was going to go? Did they really think he wouldn't go off script and fuck himself like he does on a daily basis with Twitter?

What was your plan?
 

AztecComplex

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,371
Dumbass Trump today torpedoed the only defense he had in protecting himself from all the incriminating evidence Cohen has on Trump: client attorney privilege.

By stating that Cohen did very little legal work, the seized documents likely won't fall under client attorney privilege. If those documents are treated as business related, they are free game to use as evidence to convict Trump and Cohen and anyone else in the multitude of crimes they have been trying to hide by claiming client attorney privilege.
It'll take a decade to dissect every fuck up that happened during this administration after this clown leaves office. And I for one cant wait for the Oscar winning adaptation of all this.
 

TheFireman

Banned
Dec 22, 2017
3,918
How did Fox News think this was going to go? Did they really think he wouldn't go off script and fuck himself like he does on a daily basis with Twitter?

What was your plan?

I imagine a small, tiny shred of them wanted to feel like a journalist again, but they forgot that they can't do that anymore since they've sold their souls to a propaganda machine.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,799
Your not making any sense. There's no logic to this arguement why do you think Trump mentions Cohen as a business man? Why do you think he spends the majority of the time downplaying how much legal work he does (not for him but in general)? None of that matters if Cohen simply did a little amount of work for him as lawyer. He mentions those things first because he doesn't consider Cohen a lawyer. He says this pretty explcitly as far as rants go.

Someone who you consider a lawyer you don't talk about them getting a law degree as an aside to your main point about them. There's zero reason to bring it up.

Stop ascribing logic to Trump's statements. He's all over the place, as usual. But if you think what he said is some kind of smoking gun to prove Cohen isn't his lawyer and that he isn't protected by attorney-client privilege, you'd be wrong.
 

nasirum

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,833
Somewhere
not standing for him, brother. don't like him.

you may be too emotionally invested in this. I was pointing out, as I understood it, that he didn't necessarily goof there. That he may have an out. That maybe we don't have him by the balls this time. I hope we do.

See how you're comments seem silly, now?

Nope.

He said "Cohen represented me regarding Stormy" as well as "Cohen is mostly a business partner."

2 things: He just admitted publicly that Cohen represents him re: Stormy as well as saying that most of the documents that were recovered in the raid are not privileged. Both of those are goofs. I can't see how there's an out when SDNY is already taking these statements into their consideration of the document review.
 

Antrax

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,284
Actually, something does strike me about this - with the range of contradictory public statements we get from Trump, to what extent are they admissible in court, given they're not supplied under oath? How does the court acknowledge one as 'enough of a fact'?

They're all admissable. Not being under oath means he can dispute his own statements without going to jail, but that still means admitting that he lied about something.
 

Principate

Member
Oct 31, 2017
11,186
Stop ascribing logic to Trump's statements. He's all over the place, as usual. But if you think what he said is some kind of smoking gun to prove Cohen isn't his lawyer and that he isn't protected by attorney-client privilege, you'd be wrong.
I never stated so. It's simply additional evidence that was stated in court today. Judging by Stormy Daniels lawyers he's pretty confident that this is one locked up and looking at the situation so far I'm inclined to believe him. They have Cohens emails there's already a massive amount of evidence plus statements of 2 of his 3 clients that the man does practices little law.
 

rjinaz

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,404
Phoenix
How did Fox News think this was going to go? Did they really think he wouldn't go off script and fuck himself like he does on a daily basis with Twitter?

What was your plan?
I think they actually believe their own shit that they sell. They believe Trump is this force of nature businessman that is respectable and gets things done. They see him as a victim of the deep state and the MMS narrative that he is incompetent is wrong. This will shake them momentarily, but they are experts at blocking it out and saying Trump is great every day on the air eventually makes it so in your own mind, so my guess is we'll see Trump back on Fox in another year or so.
 

GrizzleBoy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,762
Trump:
I DONT ALWAYS USE MICHEAL COHEN FOR LEGAL COUSEL (It's actually just a tiny tiny fraction of my legal stuff).

BUT WHEN I DO ITS TO USE CAMPAIGN DONATION MONEY TO PAY HUSH MONEY TO PORN STARS I DEFINITELY NEVER HAD SEX WITH.



Not a good look tbh.
 

Shadowrun

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,748
Stop ascribing logic to Trump's statements. He's all over the place, as usual. But if you think what he said is some kind of smoking gun to prove Cohen isn't his lawyer and that he isn't protected by attorney-client privilege, you'd be wrong.

Actually, the Judge will rule on that soon, since the SDNY is using Dummy Donald's comments on Fox and Friends as fodder for their privilege argument.

Also, Donald's comments in the past, especially his tweets, have already been used in legal proceedings against him (i.e. travel ban). So, it's irrelevant if "he's all over the place."
 

FreezePeach

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,811
Actually, the Judge will rule on that soon, since the SDNY is using Dummy Donald's comments on Fox and Friends as fodder for their privilege argument.

Also, Donald's comments in the past, especially his tweets, have already been used in legal proceedings against him (i.e. travel ban). So, it's irrelevant if "he's all over the place."
They already used his comments in court today. Judge picked her own special master for the Cohen evidence.
 

Sho_Nuff82

Member
Nov 14, 2017
18,431
It's not that giving conflicting statements in public is illegal, or constitutes perjury, it's that when an investigator/prosecutor goes to a judge, they can play these conflicting statements and say, "we're just trying to get to the truth, the POTUS has changed their position, now we need more time to pursue this new avenue."

That's what happened with the SDNY/Cohen materials. It went from "you don't need to look at that stuff, all of it is privileged," to "you don't need to look at that stuff, barely any of it is legal discussion."

Well yeah, which is why the apparent sideshow of the president's decade old affair with a porn star has immediate consequences. Trump has repeatedly given opposing legal parties ammo for litigation against his own admin policy based on public statements, many of them made via off the cuff social media rants. He already had to have a lawyer "clarify" that he ghost-wrote a tweet, so it could not be directly construed as obstruction of justice regarding Michael Flynn. Trump being a bold-faced liar or flip-flopping has little consequences in the real world because he can deflect and spin and the right wing media and legion of followers will help him do so, but in a court of law everything you say matters.

Trump has treated the Russia investigation like a PR war from the start. He believes that if he convinces enough of the public that the investigators are naughty and that the crimes committed don't matter to him, he can make this all go away. Cohen's lawyers are probably furious right now, he has really hurt any chance they had of having last say over who gets to screen his seized documents.
 

barit

Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
1,163
Hahahhaha how he is rambling on the phone. Just spouting out one talking point after another. That this dumbass became the president is still something I will never grasp
 
Oct 25, 2017
14,650
I love it when someone gets Trump on an open mic and just lets him talk. It seems like every time he does, something horrible and incriminating comes out of his mouth. Seriously, every station should just be trying to book weekly interviews with him to let him talk to a wall for 40 minutes. He can't stop playing himself every time he gets off the White House's leash.
 
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Tuorom

Member
Oct 30, 2017
10,915
He constructed a run on sentence that was almost entirely made of the word "business". I'm impressed.
 

bionic77

Member
Oct 25, 2017
30,894
That looked like a bad SNL sketch.

Except it was real.

America cmon man! You better than that.
 
Oct 29, 2017
5,354
Trump has treated the Russia investigation like a PR war from the start. He believes that if he convinces enough of the public that the investigators are naughty and that the crimes committed don't matter to him, he can make this all go away.

This needs to be printed, framed, put into wall, etched into statues.

This is what fucks Trump over and over. He thinks it's all PR.
 

VariantX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,886
Columbia, SC
There's only so much shit fox news can cover up. Working with Trump in real time has proven to be impossible when hes off script. This guy must wake up discover new and even more creative ways to shit himself on the daily.
 

cakely

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,149
Chicago
Hilarious quote from the Atlantic article about Dumbass Donald's nervous breakdown:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/trump-fox-and-friends/558992/

The Atlantic said:
"It is all lies and it is a horrible thing that is going on, a horrible thing," Trump continued. "Yet I have accomplished with all of this going on more than any president in the first year in our history. Everybody, even the enemies and haters admit that. We have accomplished more than any president in the first year by far." No part of this statement is true.
 
Jan 10, 2018
6,327
Trump's modus operandi:

Q: Sir, did you take big dump today?

A: FAKE NEWS!!! LIES!!!! NOT A STINKER NOT A STINKER!!!!


Q: Sir, what did you do today?


A: I TOOK THE BIGGEST, MOST BEAUTIFUL DUMP TODAY!! THE BIGGEST DUMP YOU HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! Just tremendous! TREMENDOUS!!!!
 

Schlorgan

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,932
Salt Lake City, Utah
If you don't want to feel like killing yourself, I would highly recommend not reading Facebook comments on the news articles about this.

Gold medal worthy mental gymnastics.

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Trump's modus operandi:

Q: Sir, did you take big dump today?

A: FAKE NEWS!!! LIES!!!! NOT A STINKER NOT A STINKER!!!!


Q: Sir, what did you do today?


A: I TOOK THE BIGGEST, MOST BEAUTIFUL DUMP TODAY!! THE BIGGEST DUMP YOU HAVE EVER SEEN!!!! Just tremendous! TREMENDOUS!!!!

Beautiful.
 

Sho_Nuff82

Member
Nov 14, 2017
18,431
That before and after Fox pick reminds of the old IGN E3 meme.




For the "nothing will happen" crowd, the judge seems to have come to a conclusion pretty quick today after being presented with transcript of the interview. When 2 of your 3 clients tell the public that you don't really do much legal work, gonna be hard to convince a court that you have volumes of legal documents that you need first review on.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,799
I never stated so. It's simply additional evidence that was stated in court today. Judging by Stormy Daniels lawyers he's pretty confident that this is one locked up and looking at the situation so far I'm inclined to believe him. They have Cohens emails there's already a massive amount of evidence plus statements of 2 of his 3 clients that the man does practices little law.

Right, stated in a pleading by the U.S. District Attorney. They kind of have an interest in this case, and might be slightly misconstruing the evidence to support their position. This is not uncommon in legal proceedings. Oftentimes the facts are what they are, and it's all down to interpretation. I don't think a reasonable interpretation of Trump's statements on Fox this morning is that Cohen isn't his attorney and therefore isn't protected by attorney-client privilege.

Actually, the Judge will rule on that soon, since the SDNY is using Dummy Donald's comments on Fox and Friends as fodder for their privilege argument.

Also, Donald's comments in the past, especially his tweets, have already been used in legal proceedings against him (i.e. travel ban). So, it's irrelevant if "he's all over the place."

Well, it's only being used for the current proceeding, which is regarding whether the taint team is sufficient to review Cohen's seized files, versus whether Cohen should have the right to review himself first. I suspect that the judge would have rejected Cohen's argument regardless of what Trump said this morning.

Your analogy regarding his tweets isn't on point. Yes, the tweets have been used in legal proceedings. That doesn't mean that his interview this morning isn't being misinterpreted by some people in the hopes that it will get Trump in trouble due to the fact that he was "all over the place". Trump's inability to stay focused and present a reasoned argument is why some people are misinterpreting his statements, causing them to think he did himself serious harm by somehow confirming Cohen wasn't his attorney.

The bigger issue out of this interview is that he confirmed the Stormy Daniels issue and acknowledged Cohen represented him on that, which he had previously publicly denied.
 

NullPointer

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,172
Mars
Trump lies so easily and so often and across so many disparate topics that he can't possibly be expected to keep his own bullshit straight.

So by all means, please proceed, POTUS.