He seems to hate McCain because McCain was probably one of the "few" Republicans that actually tried to call bullshit for what it is, and that McCain has tarnished Trump's record of being the anti-Obama, taking down everything Obama created. This will bother Trump forfuckingever.
I will not have one molecule of sadness the day I hear "Donald Trump has passed away". I didn't even like McCain but I had compassion for him and his family. Not with this petty worm that makes being alive feel like such a nightmare, knowing such a dipshit is in charge of America.
I mean without getting into a conversation about McCain he said he didn't even like McCainI'm sorry but, McCain is horrible, Trump's horribleness doesn't negate McCain's horribleness, and I bothered that even progressive people are cool with McCain.
If we go by the trend of how people, including democrats treat the death of horrible Republicans like John McCain, the opposite is probably true.The only people who will mourn Trump's death will be zealots and sycophants.
Trump's a petty white nationalist manchild. That doesn't mean people should now like John McCain.I mean without getting into a conversation about McCain he said he didn't even like McCain
It bothers me that John McCain has basically been whitewashed, how he's now one of the "good™" ones.At least John McCain didn't have people actively celebrating and partying over his death like Trump's assuredly will. Damn, that day is gonna be lit.
It bothers me that John McCain has basically been whitewashed, how he's now one of the "good™" ones.
a. Don't Republicans hate McCain (for the wrong reasons) more than Democrats though?Thing is you can still criticize McCain's politics and all. Any normal person can or at least someone who's legitimately interested in discussing policy.
Trump's pettiness may have been fine with him as a private citizen. But as a man who's currently sitting in the White House as the president, this level of childishness over a dead veteran and member of Congress coming from Trump is just absolutely horrid. It becomes further difficult to defend him because he brings this shit up even now seven months after the man was buried.
This kind of shit is not going to play well with moderate conservatives. It was one thing to be going after him while he was alive. It's another when we're going to be approaching a year after his death and he still can't stop taking pot shots at a dead man, and it goes to the levels of superficially mocking McCain as opposed to actually having a worthwhile discussion of his political legacy.
In short, think what you want about McCain. But someone in the position of POTUS having zero class when discussing McCain is worth defending someone like McCain over.
Do you find the idea that people didn't celebrate his death objectionable?It bothers me that John McCain has basically been whitewashed, how he's now one of the "good™" ones.
I find the idea that he is apparently now a hero, despite supporting Brett Kavanaugh, objectionable.Do you find the idea that people didn't celebrate his death objectionable?
The ERA thread would tell you this isn't trueDo you find the idea that people didn't celebrate his death objectionable?
Yeah, I was going to say this.
So that's a yes?I find the idea that he is apparently now a hero, despite supporting Brett Kavanaugh, objectionable
And can't win against a dead person either.Trump can't win against the living, so he goes after the deceased. What an asshole
no, I don't find it objectionable that people didn't celebrate his death.
At least John McCain didn't have people actively celebrating and partying over his death like Trump's assuredly will. Damn, that day is gonna be lit.
It's s struggle for everyone in the GOP and Trump is just the distilled version of regular republicans.
That's what Kit Harrington (Jon Snow) said recently in an interview.
I'm sorry but, McCain is horrible, Trump's horribleness doesn't negate McCain's horribleness, and I bothered that even progressive people are cool with McCain.
Going by McCain's death, it's highly propbable that when Trump dies, people are gonna be all "at least he wasn't as bad as XXX, he was one of tthe good ones, I have compassion for him and his family"
Alert: The purpose of this thread was not to defend McCain. He is a war criminal as many of you have said. But rather showing those on the right willing to explain away Trump's comments.
All that money and no class
Lindsay Graham coddling up to Trump looks even worse. This guy is constantly shit-talking your dead best friend and you sidle up to him even more smfh. How do you not say anything? Fucking horrible
Thou I whole heartily agree, if this dipshit somehow lives to one hundred with mickey dee's in his veins I expect there will be plenty of whitewashing before thenI really hope people don't hold back on Trump when he's dead due to some misguided civility. He IS worth it to let it all out on this piece of shit.
Real talk, what if we ignored stupid shit like this? Seriously. What if we just fucking ignore ALL of the petty bullshit and only hit on substantial shit he does.This is shitty, he (and McCain) are pieces of shit, but I'm so fucking TIRED of hearing about every inconsequential ignorant thing Trump says. We get it. He's a fucking ignoramus racist fuck boy. Personally, I hope he takes up drinking.
And yet he's still losingTrump can't win against the living, so he goes after the deceased. What an asshole
a. Don't Republicans hate McCain (for the wrong reasons) more than Democrats though?
b. I think the US doesn't want an honest discussion of McCain.. Not back then around his death, not now.
a. Trump's just being a petty child with regards to McCain. That doesn't mean that McCain is suddenly absolved of the bloom on his hands.A) They don't. At least not the majority of those who consider themselves Republican by my estimate. CPAC is not representative of the majority of people who consider themselves traditionally Republican. Though arguably with an older and dying out base the younger generation who flock to Trump because of his brashness that is slowly changing.
Generally speaking though attacking a dead man more than half a year after he's been buried goes beyond pettiness especially when it's mostly concerned with Trump claiming he never got thanks for approving his arrangements or attacking McCain as not being a good student. Which for those of us who want to discuss McCain post-death, who the fuck cares about that? And for those who do genuinely admire McCain comes off as juvenile and uncalled for.
B) Immediately after anyone's death who wasn't a clear criminal it's difficult to have any honest conversation about that person's legacy because "too soon" tends to be the response you're always going to get regardless of political affiliation or what have you.
That hasn't stopped people like Ilhan Omar for instance from criticizing McCain's policy and behavior. Of which is a bit more managable and people can actually get behind. And we could certainly have that conversation because it's based on actual substance and discussing his experiences and what led to the decisions he came to and what he supported or didn't support.
On the other hand, as mentioned in A, arguing that he wasn't a "hero" or attacking his intelligence seems more like a petty argument or if nothing else comes off as an attempt to dismiss McCain as an example of what being a "Republican" should mean. Since Trump is about appealing to the lizard brains of his base his goal is to portray McCain as weak and impotent as opposed to talking about the ethics/morals of his policies and what that means to the global geopolitical landscape. Of course that's a difficult conversation to have for some people but if nothing else, as I mentioned, it's a conversation of substance that while it would get pushback it could be argued is a worthwhile discussion.
Despite his faults though McCain's still more of a man than Trump will ever be and that's no more evidenced by the fact that Trump is still insecure about a guy who's been dead for 7 months.
John Mccain has genuine blood on his hands, I'm sorry.Please understand what I meant was I was sad for his wife and daughter, as they lost someone they loved. Perhaps that "human" feeling of loss.
I will not have such feelings for any Trump family member. I will probably view Trump similarly to Reagan: every day they're not on this earth, the skies are a little clearer.