Trump is willing a terrorist attack to happen to save his political ass

Mondy · Jan 21, 2018

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/tr...-and-gop-from-2018-election-bloodbath-report/

Faced with the likelihood of a "blue tsunami" in the 2018 midterm elections, President Donald Trump is holding out hope that terrorists will attack the country, reported the Washington Post on Wednesday.

"In private conversations," said the Post, "Trump has told advisers that he doesn't think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said."

Matthew Yglesias at Vox.com wrote, "(T)his is a frightening line of thought for an incumbent president and his team to be entertaining."

"(I)f the president and his top staff are not so concerned with democracy but purely political power, that's a terrifying proposition," said Yglesias.

If Trump believes that a terror attack will be a boon to his political fortunes, asked Vox, "How hard is he really working to keep the country safe?"

It's almost appropriate that Trump is the president that would simultaneously plan to appeal to his bases worst impulses, whilst also wishing potential death upon them in order to make it happen.

One hell of a ride, you Americans are on at the moment.

Spooky Mulder · Jan 21, 2018

He's probably hoping some bad hombres do something so he can make more attack ads

ItIsOkBro · Jan 21, 2018

ya know some of his actions start to make sense if you consider that he's trying to get a terrorist attack.

sph3re · Jan 21, 2018

Kind of puts that North Korea stuff into perspective. It's starting to sound like he wanted them to start shit, just to justify his insanity.

Yoshimitsu126 · Jan 21, 2018

But didn't Bush had more americans like him? Wouldn't this draw more criticism of the administration not keeping the country safe?

Herb Alpert · Jan 21, 2018

If you want something done right, Do it yourself

SlickShoesRUCRazy · Jan 21, 2018

Trump and cronies are a clear and present danger to the country and should be taken care of.

Dragonelite · Jan 21, 2018

Well rip North Korea and South Korea

Deleted member 16657 · Jan 21, 2018

Herb Alpert said:
If you want something done right, Do it yourself

Don't even joke about this, we might accidentally will it into existence

KillLaCam · Jan 21, 2018

Haven't laughed that hard about something in a while. That's sad. Something has to be done about them

Deleted member 11093 · Jan 21, 2018

He'd probably rather have something bad happen to Ivanka and Barron at the cost of his safety.

jayu26 · Jan 21, 2018

Herb Alpert said:
If you want something done right, Do it yourself

Oh dear God! Don't even joke like this

KtotheRoc · Jan 21, 2018

As if I didn't have enough fears to keep me up at night.

RiOrius · Jan 21, 2018

Seems like a pretty big stretch from what he's saying. I'd easily believe he's just assuming things won't be so bad because nothing bad ever happens to Trump, the people love him, he's the greatest, etc. But going from "things won't necessarily be that bad, remember 2002?" to "Trump wants another 9/11" is ludicrous.

cosmicblizzard · Jan 21, 2018

I don't want to go full conspiracy here, but I'm legit getting worried he'll stage an attack with real casualties and blame ISIS. ISIS would totally accept the blame too.

Dreams-Visions · Jan 21, 2018

Poorly stated, but is he wrong? The fear stoked by making people worry that changing leadership during a time of war was a central theme to W getting re-elected. It was a huge premise of his argument.

Here's hoping Trump doesn't pull a Frank Underwood and manufacture a crisis and solution to look good.

Greg NYC3 · Jan 21, 2018

That shit worked in 2002 because no one wanted to blame Bush for the attack as no attack of that magnitude had ever been successful on US soil. And Bush was likeable.

So that's 0 for 2 to make that work in Trump's favor.

Bedlam · Jan 21, 2018

No conscience, no scruples. Just pure lust for power. What a vile asshole.

Spheyr · Jan 21, 2018

RiOrius said:
Seems like a pretty big stretch from what he's saying. I'd easily believe he's just assuming things won't be so bad because nothing bad ever happens to Trump, the people love him, he's the greatest, etc. But going from "things won't necessarily be that bad, remember 2002?" to "Trump wants another 9/11" is ludicrous.

Basically.

2018 isn't going to turn the country blue, Trump is going to win re-election in 2020, and things are going to be great.

Pooh · Jan 21, 2018

Greg NYC3 said:
That shit worked in 2002 because no one wanted to blame Bush for the attack as no attack of that magnitude had ever been successful on US soil. And Bush was likeable.

Yeah. And Bush could read a speech decently enough, compared to Trump.

Also, people saw themselves "having a beer" with Bush. You can't even do that with Donald because he doesn't drink ;)

fierrotlepou · Jan 21, 2018

Been saying this for a while now: this nutcase will start a war to secure his presidency.

Fuzzy · Jan 21, 2018

Hoping or planning?

Kolx · Jan 21, 2018

Yoshimitsu126 said:
But didn't Bush had more americans like him? Wouldn't this draw more criticism of the administration not keeping the country safe?

He'll just blame the democrats for not going along with him while asking for more money for the military and more racist restrictions on minorities.

Dai101 · Jan 21, 2018

Hasn't been enough terrorist attacks just past year? Oh wait, i forgot white terrorism is no terrorism.

Ottaro · Jan 21, 2018

"In private conversations," said the Post, "Trump has told advisers that he doesn't think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said."

Did he bring up 9/11 or was that context added by others? He's dumb enough to not understand the context of that year's election. I can picture one of his staffers trying to reassure his ego by just bringing up republican's midterm numbers that year and conflating it with Bush's low approval rating six years later.

evil solrac v3.0 · Jan 21, 2018

It's not clear just where the Sept. 11 reference came from. Did Trump himself refer to 9/11, or did either the authors of this article or their sources add it for context to clarify why the 2002 midterms went the way they did?

It seems
that Trump himself merely expressed optimism about the 2018 midterms and referred to the 2002 midterms. But I feel if he did mention then yeah, it's time Tom worry.

Kolx · Jan 21, 2018

cosmicblizzard said:
I don't want to go full conspiracy here, but I'm legit getting worried he'll stage an attack with real casualties and blame ISIS. ISIS would totally accept the blame too.

He won't stage an attack. He's an idiot but not that stupid. He can instead keep ignoring security concerns from his advisers and government agencies on the hope ISIS or someone else use that to attack the US.

Greg NYC3 · Jan 21, 2018

Pooh said:
Yeah. And Bush could read a speech decently enough, compared to Trump.

Also, people saw themselves "having a beer" with Bush. You can't even do that with Donald because he doesn't drink ;)

Trump has yet to respond to any terrorist attack here or abroad in a way that leads me to worry about him spinning a new attack into a net positive. He has zero empathy or an ability to connect to victims without making everything about himself.

Spheyr · Jan 21, 2018

Kolx said:
He won't stage an attack. He's an idiot but not that stupid. He can instead keep ignoring security concerns from his advisers and government agencies on the hope ISIS or someone else use that to attack the US.

You mean he could have his own Benghazi?

ReginOfFire · Jan 21, 2018

Spheyr said:
Basically.

2018 isn't going to turn the country blue, Trump is going to win re-election in 2020, and things are going to be great.

lol

Wilsongt · Jan 21, 2018

Herb Alpert said:
If you want something done right, Do it yourself

They're already acting like terrorist...

Deleted member 8860 · Jan 21, 2018

Spheyr said:
You mean he could have his own Benghazi?

Niger?

Dark Knight · Jan 21, 2018

I'm betting most of today's conspiracy theorists would never believe a false flag attack theory from trump's government due to Trump being the king of conspiracy theories.

Atom Heart Mother · Jan 21, 2018

Kolx said:
He won't stage an attack. He's an idiot but not that stupid. He can instead keep ignoring security concerns from his advisers and government agencies on the hope ISIS or someone else use that to attack the US.

I mean, this is how 9/11 happened.

Reynolds Woodcock · Jan 21, 2018

This is predictable but horrifying nonetheless.

sph3re · Jan 21, 2018

Spheyr said:
Basically.

2018 isn't going to turn the country blue, Trump is going to win re-election in 2020, and things are going to be great.

Ron Howard said:
They weren't.

ishan · Jan 21, 2018

pretty big stretch given whats written.

Twilight Suzuka · Jan 21, 2018

Kind of ironic that Alex Jones is his biggest fan. Jones must be up at night sweating now. You can't get more conspiratorial than that lol.

kmfdmpig · Jan 21, 2018

Ottaro said:
Did he bring up 9/11 or was that context added by others? He's dumb enough to not understand the context of that year's election. I can picture one of his staffers trying to reassure his ego by just bringing up republican's midterm numbers that year and conflating it with Bush's low approval rating six years later.

Yeah, that's a key point and what I wondered when reading the OP and the article.

It seems to me that he referenced 2002 as an example of an election in which the result dramatically differed from expectations and then the writer made the point that the divergence was due to 9/11. That's quite a bit different from Trump hoping for a 9/11 to win an election. Trump can F off either way as he's awful. I'm just not sure that this particular critique of him is valid or based on anything real.

Yourfawthaaa · Jan 21, 2018

Man get this dude out of office please.

Max|Payne · Jan 21, 2018

Trump is a terrorist attack.

He terrorizes people by attacking their intelligence.

Jackpot · Jan 21, 2018

Sorry, but the article is a total stretch. It simply says (in the original source) that Trump referenced the 2002 mid-terms as an example of an incumbent party that did unexpectedly well. Extrapolating that to "he wants a terrorist attack to happen" doesn't do anyone any favours.

danm999 · Jan 21, 2018

Greg NYC3 said:
That shit worked in 2002 because no one wanted to blame Bush for the attack as no attack of that magnitude had ever been successful on US soil. And Bush was likeable.

So that's 0 for 2 to make that work in Trump's favor.

One of the broken clock moments Trump had during the Republican primaries was when Jeb Bush claimed his brother kept America safe, and Trump pointed out 9/11 happened on George's watch.

I'd guess Trump's hoping to recreate that 9/11 effect where people rally around the symbol of the Presidency regardless of how effective they are at national security?

ItRhymesWithDoom · Jan 21, 2018

You mean, like that white supremacist that actually DID get charged with mass terror and the DOJ tried to hide it?

Coming next to America: War of White Suprema- wait a minute, that's the wrong way 'round... *dramatic zoom out of Earth* SOROOOOOOOS

kmfdmpig · Jan 21, 2018

Jackpot said:
Sorry, but the article is a total stretch. It simply says (in the original source) that Trump referenced the 2002 mid-terms as an example of an incumbent party that did unexpectedly well. Extrapolating that to "he wants a terrorist attack to happen" doesn't do anyone any favours.

This type of reach is so harmful.
1) There are a ton of legitimate critiques of Trump
2) For all of the genuinely "fake" ones the delusional Trump supporters will prop them up as an example to dismiss the valid critiques.

Gwenpoolshark · Jan 21, 2018

Their depleted state department is basically on track to allow one to happen.

RoKKeR · Jan 21, 2018

I've long believed this to be true, unfortunately. Hopefully our law enforcement and intelligence agencies continue to serve.

Pokiehl · Jan 21, 2018

Please read what the source is actually saying.

In private conversations, Trump has told advisers that he doesn't think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said.

In no way does that equate to Trump hoping for a terrorist attack or deliberately weakening the US's defenses to make us vulnerable as some are saying.

Mivey · Jan 21, 2018

How is this not a tasteless onion article?

Shauni · Jan 21, 2018

I feel like we have had this thread a few times lol. I know I've seen that quote pop up in a few OPs

Trump is willing a terrorist attack to happen to save his political ass

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