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Oct 25, 2017
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My personal opinion is trump isnt capable of making this blatant to some subtle to some reference. His mind doesnt work that way. Hes in your face always . This is too complex for him.

Is there a chance he is talking about the freedom trail? That's the first I got from the tweet.

Do you honestly and truly believe this? Even with his racist history and attacks on Elizabeth Warren?

After this?

 

Melkezadek

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Oct 27, 2017
2,168
This is why I get so frustrated when Dems want to tear down Warren and laugh at her for her DNA testing gaffe. Trump is out here being blatantly racist but she made a slight political miscalculation so "to hell with her she's finished".

It's absurd that he isn't being called out more harshly for this. Nah let's just dunk on Warren because Republicans have no standards.
 

Vonnegut

Banned
May 27, 2018
1,082
You seem to be trying to justify making light of genocide if it's in pursuit of mocking someone — as if warren's behavior gives trump a free pass to say whatever racist shit he wants.

Trump's comments are vile, independent of whatever warren did. Likewise, Trump's vile response doesn't make it ok for Warren to claim native heritage (and unlike trump, Warren doesn't act like this!) — but Warren's behavior isn't what this thread is about and it's stupid to conflate these two things as if they somehow counteract each other.

It's more than stupid, it's exactly what Trump is doing.

No. I'm not defending Trump. I'm sorry I gave you that impression.
 

JustinP

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Oct 25, 2017
6,343
Good point, but it just seems like the kind of reference that you wouldn't make. It's like, evil. But I guess this is the sick world we live in....
You don't think trump is capable of evil? The same guy that proposed banning all Muslims from entering the country, launched his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists and murderers, put in policies designed specifically to separate families and put children in camps, reneged on discrimination protections for LGBT federal workers, and so much more?

The fuck?
 

Midee

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Oct 27, 2017
1,469
CA, USA
Good point, but it just seems like the kind of reference that you wouldn't make. It's like, evil.
As this thread has already mentioned, motherfucker's got an Andrew Jackson portrait in the oval office, and has openly shown disdain for Native Americans in the past and present.
Not really. He is an incredibly stupid man.
Why is it so hard for you to believe? Why are you so ready to give him the benefit of the doubt? You can be incredibly stupid AND incredibly racist (and arguably genocidal), as Trump has proven time and time again.
 
Apr 21, 2018
6,969
You don't think trump is capable of evil? The same guy that proposed banning all Muslims from entering the country, launched his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists and murderers, put in policies designed specifically to separate families and put children in camps, reneged on discrimination protections for LGBT federal workers, and so much more?

The fuck?

Yeah, it just seems that directly relating campaigning to genocide is an all new low. I actually feel sick that this type of shit is ok. We are going backwards aren't we?! Wtf is wrong with the US? Is it religion? Is I the bad schools? Wtf is wrong with people to allow this?
 
Apr 21, 2018
6,969
Why is it so hard for you to believe? Why are you so ready to give him the benefit of the doubt? You can be incredibly stupid AND incredibly racist (and arguably genocidal), as Trump has proven time and time again.

I wasn't giving the benefit of the doubt, moreso just thougu subtle references in general were too much for the putz.
 

StraySheep

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Oct 26, 2017
8,276
This is why I get so frustrated when Dems want to tear down Warren and laugh at her for her DNA testing gaffe. Trump is out here being blatantly racist but she made a slight political miscalculation so "to hell with her she's finished".

It's absurd that he isn't being called out more harshly for this. Nah let's just dunk on Warren because Republicans have no standards.

For real. She's not going to be defeated by Trump for this. Trump will just latch on to this relatively non issue until people tire of it and dig a bigger and bigger racist hole each week.
 

plié

Alt account
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Jan 10, 2019
1,613
Good point, but it just seems like the kind of reference that you wouldn't make. It's like, evil. But I guess this is the sick world we live in....
Orange #1 does not simply understand/care what he says. And this probably is just what his base wants to hear.

It's not clever nor subtle, but this is Trump.
 

lmcfigs

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Oct 25, 2017
12,091
Most middle school kids know about the trail of tears. Brit Hume thinks the president is dumber than that.
 

Saya

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Oct 25, 2017
4,972
He knows. It is intentional. He is a piece of shit racist scumbag. There is no bottom to this shitshow.

And it is insane how this isn't a bigger deal in the media.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,290
Nottingham, UK
My personal opinion is trump isnt capable of making this blatant to some subtle to some reference. His mind doesnt work that way. Hes in your face always . This is too complex for him.
Is there a chance he is talking about the freedom trail? That's the first I got from the tweet.
Perhaps you two should re-read the thread, the linked tweets, and other supporting information as to why Trump is not ignorant to what he is saying, is doing it on purpose, and continues to be a despicable racist piece of sub human excrement
 

ishan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,192
This thread is proof that somehow there are people more stupid than Trump in this world.
dude that implies trump is some super mastermind who switches between his rallies to some half wink wink half play the ppl wink sort of subtle messaging. I just dont see it. He simply just says stupid stuff without realizing it . Occam's razor. The guys is a gifted sales person I'll give him that but hes a in your face salesperson not some diabolical mastermind .... cause if He can pull both of those off then I would have to say bravo to him which I highly highly highly doubt.
 

cognizant

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Dec 19, 2017
13,751
dude that implies trump is some super mastermind who switches between his rallies to some half wink wink half play the ppl wink sort of subtle messaging. I just dont see it. He simply just says stupid stuff without realizing it . Occam's razor.

I mean, isn't Occam's Razor in this instance mean that Trump is making a racist pun? He's already said racist shit his whole life, he already made references to Pocahontas and Wounded Knee, and as bone-headed as it is, he tends to capitalise words for emphasis, not entirely at 'random'. He's emphasising the pun.

WHY AM I DEBATING THIS!?
 

Masterz1337

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Oct 25, 2017
4,781
I can't wait until the next trail of tears which will be when he and his family get their asses hauled off to jail and their entire fortune repossessed by the government.
 

Kasai

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Jan 24, 2018
4,281
Trump hates Indians because they have casinos in Connecticut but he had to jump through a shit ton of hoops to get his. There's a deposfuon or some kind of legal video where hes testifying about Indians.

Hes a racist fuck
 

ishan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,192
I mean, isn't Occam's Razor in this instance mean that Trump is making a racist pun? He's already said racist shit his whole life, he already made references to Pocahontas and Wounded Knee, and as bone-headed as it is, he tends to capitalise words for emphasis, not entirely at 'random'. He's emphasising the pun.

WHY AM I DEBATING THIS!?
he doesnt make puns he straight out says racist insentitive comments or equivocates. Him making some pun is giving him too much credit.

EDIT : ill ask you this someone who after charlottesville kept going both sides you expect that guy to make some pun with capitalization on twitter?
 

lmcfigs

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Oct 25, 2017
12,091
dude that implies trump is some super mastermind who switches between his rallies to some half wink wink half play the ppl wink sort of subtle messaging. I just dont see it. He simply just says stupid stuff without realizing it . Occam's razor. The guys is a gifted sales person I'll give him that but hes a in your face salesperson not some diabolical mastermind .... cause if He can pull both of those off then I would have to say bravo to him which I highly highly highly doubt.
"Mastermind". Trail of tears isn't some obscure historical event. A lot of really stupid people know basic history.
 

Amalthea

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Dec 22, 2017
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Trump hates Indians because they have casinos in Connecticut but he had to jump through a shit ton of hoops to get his. There's a deposfuon or some kind of legal video where hes testifying about Indians.

Hes a racist fuck
I mean he thinks calling someone Pocahontas is an insult.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,290
Nottingham, UK
he doesnt make puns he straight out says racist insentitive comments or equivocates. Him making some pun is giving him too much credit.

EDIT : ill ask you this someone who after charlottesville kept going both sides you expect that guy to make some pun with capitalization on twitter?
These two things aren't mutually exclusive. You're either not all that bright or (more likely) are doing this on purpose
 

lmcfigs

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Oct 25, 2017
12,091
Why is this even a dichotomy? "You say trump is an idiot and yet you're suggesting that he uses racist insults and makes light of genocide". These aren't contradictions.
 

plié

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Jan 10, 2019
1,613
Well Im not american but this seems giving too much credit to him imo but Im no authority on the subject.
Neither am I, but the connection was there the second I read that tweet.

Reference to Native Americans ---> Reference to TRAIL (capitalized)

Edit. And this was with basic high school history of America.
 

JustinP

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Oct 25, 2017
6,343
dude that implies trump is some super mastermind who switches between his rallies to some half wink wink half play the ppl wink sort of subtle messaging. I just dont see it. He simply just says stupid stuff without realizing it . Occam's razor. The guys is a gifted sales person I'll give him that but hes a in your face salesperson not some diabolical mastermind .... cause if He can pull both of those off then I would have to say bravo to him which I highly highly highly doubt.

It doesn't take a mastermind to know about the trail of tears holy shit

Edit: ah, not American — they teach this in US grade school
 

ishan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,192
Your opinion being that trump is incapable of making racist pun based jokes to play to his base and shit on native americans? Based on him being an idiotic public speaker?

Why?
hes a very off the cuff sort of person he doesnt do subtle . Hes in your face. I think thats got lost given weve gotten used to him over the past 2 years . The man simply speaks his mind (as disturbing/racist/inappropriate etc as it may be) ... Hes not some complex person. He literally spells out his strategy. Its to bully you. Hes up front about it.
 

JustinP

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Oct 25, 2017
6,343
hes a very off the cuff sort of person he doesnt do subtle . Hes in your face. I think thats got lost given weve gotten used to him over the past 2 years . The man simply speaks his mind (as disturbing/racist/inappropriate etc as it may be) ... Hes not some complex person. He literally spells out his strategy. Its to bully you. Hes up front about it.
Yes, this tweet was not complex — very up front about the reference.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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dude that implies trump is some super mastermind who switches between his rallies to some half wink wink half play the ppl wink sort of subtle messaging.

The messaging in the tweet isn't subtle.

Why is Donald signing the 'H' here when he says Barack H. Obama?

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Mathieran

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Oct 25, 2017
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I doubt he just made this joke up out of the blue. He's been waiting to use this line for a while now, just had to wait for her to announce her intention to run for President. He's the pettiest motherfucker alive.

I also don't think he made the joke up, but knew damn well what he was doing. Probably got it from Stephen Miller or some equally contemptible piece of shit.
 

ishan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,192
Yes, this tweet was not complex — very up front about the reference.
it could be youreright and given other posts on thsi maybe me not being american is making me miss this . I normally get the other inferences here . As I said its very possible im misunderstanding this due to me not being american etc. Also maybe i just have a even lower expectation of his messaging than others.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,290
Nottingham, UK
hes a very off the cuff sort of person he doesnt do subtle . Hes in your face. I think thats got lost given weve gotten used to him over the past 2 years . The man simply speaks his mind (as disturbing/racist/inappropriate etc as it may be) ... Hes not some complex person. He literally spells out his strategy. Its to bully you. Hes up front about it.
And you think he never received help nor crowd sources his tweet ideas from his racist colleagues. You think someone that admires and reveres Jackson and has previous with native Americans regarding him wanting to open a casino, who happily references previous battles with native Americans and uses Pocahontas as a slur toward Warren, isn't in fact absolutely making a pun joke using TRAILS and the Trail of Tears and did it by accident or something?
 

cognizant

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Dec 19, 2017
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I doubt he just made this joke up out of the blue. He's been waiting to use this line for a while now, just had to wait for her to announce her intention to run for President. He's the pettiest motherfucker alive.

I'm kind of worried about the magnitude of the revenge he's going to get on Pelosi one day. :|
 

ishan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,192
The messaging in the tweet isn't subtle.

Why is Donald signing the 'H' here when he says Barack H. Obama?

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I simply dont give trump that much credit I guess. H is Barrack's middle name . what am I missing here? Is the H supposed to be the H for his islamic sounding middle name? If so thats just him reminding ppl of the birther movement . Which Trump has a long history of.
 

ishan

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Oct 27, 2017
2,192
And you think he never received help nor crowd sources his tweet ideas from his racist colleagues. You think someone that admires and reveres Jackson and has previous with native Americans regarding him wanting to open a casino, who happily references previous battles with native Americans and uses Pocahontas as a slur toward Warren, isn't in fact absolutely making a pun joke using TRAILS and the Trail of Tears and did it by accident or something?
Oh if itssomeone else on his team absolutely. Miller comes to mind always . On him no dont give him credit but yes def someone else on his team absolutely agree.
 

plié

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Jan 10, 2019
1,613
hes a very off the cuff sort of person he doesnt do subtle . Hes in your face. I think thats got lost given weve gotten used to him over the past 2 years . The man simply speaks his mind (as disturbing/racist/inappropriate etc as it may be) ... Hes not some complex person. He literally spells out his strategy. Its to bully you. Hes up front about it.
This is not subtle in any way.

Like how is it subtle if thousands if not millions are making the connection without breaking some complex code. Just read the tweet and it is there.