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Trump to address the nation on Syria tonight (UPDATE: Launching strikes)
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Oh please, Saddam killed many of his people with chemical attacks, thousands, the West did nothing.
We only went to war much, much later because we thought he had WMD's that could reach us.
The only reason usa and the world is reacting to Syria is because it would look bad if we did nothing because we're already there and we've tried diplomacy to no avail.
If we were not involved there would likely be very little reaction to any chemical attacks.
Probably right ha. i'm sure Trump meant if this happens again, we will be there with punishment. language matters though
Yeah, just blow em up with cruise missiles instead and dismiss it as "collateral damage" but that's ok though, cause US killed them with noble intentions I'm sure.
Thanks for support and messages like these man, for people that need it.
If a good short term takeaway can come from this, the media and the public needs to up the pressure significantly regarding the Syrian refugee crisis, which has fallen completely out of the news cycle. The US numbers for 2017-18 are pitiful, if Trump and Bolton are eager to join the fight we cannot ignore the humanitarian fallout.
As to the side conversation in the thread that's going on, if you find yourself turning into a provocative asshole on a message board that's 95% like-minded because it feels good to lash out to someone, anyone in times of duress - maybe stop posting on the internet during breaking news and just lurk instead.
As to the side conversation in the thread that's going on, if you find yourself turning into a provocative asshole on a message board that's 95% like-minded because it feels good to lash out to someone, anyone in times of duress - maybe stop posting on the internet during breaking news and just lurk instead.
Made them, I'd assume? These weapons have been around over a century.
Lol, nothing is delayed. They will get killed differently and that's that. While also risking to kill civilians with this strike, and risking to escalate the conflict if these strikes arent handled responsibly.
UK said it was a successful attack:
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on U.S.-led missile strikes on Syria (all times local):
10:20 p.m.
The British defense ministry says "initial indications" show that the airstrikes against Syria produced a "successful attack" on a Syrian military facility.
The U.K., U.S. and France launched the attacks near Damascus early Saturday. The U.K. ministry says in a statement that while the effectiveness of the strike is still being analyzed, "initial indications are that the precision of the Storm Shadow weapons and meticulous target planning have resulted in a successful attack."
British Prime Minister Theresa May is describing the attack as neither "about intervening in a civil war" nor "about regime change," but a limited and targeted strike that "does not further escalate tensions in the region" and does everything possible to prevent civilian casualties.
May says, "We would have preferred an alternative path. But on this occasion there is none."
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on U.S.-led missile strikes on Syria (all times local):
10:20 p.m.
The British defense ministry says "initial indications" show that the airstrikes against Syria produced a "successful attack" on a Syrian military facility.
The U.K., U.S. and France launched the attacks near Damascus early Saturday. The U.K. ministry says in a statement that while the effectiveness of the strike is still being analyzed, "initial indications are that the precision of the Storm Shadow weapons and meticulous target planning have resulted in a successful attack."
British Prime Minister Theresa May is describing the attack as neither "about intervening in a civil war" nor "about regime change," but a limited and targeted strike that "does not further escalate tensions in the region" and does everything possible to prevent civilian casualties.
May says, "We would have preferred an alternative path. But on this occasion there is none."
The US never struck a single Hezbollah target since the end of the Lebanese civil war, they don't want to open a front with Hezbollah, a direct extension of the IRGC.
They leave that to Israel, but never directly attack Hezbollah, else all of their assets in Lebanon and Iraq are in jeopardy.
Two things.
The fact that there were multiple targets proves that this was a bigger deal than last year's strike.
Second, even if they didn't hit ANY chemical weapon, this is the right move. Because at least its telling Assad that there will be consequences if he floats international war rules.
Yeah, at this point the argument that we've seen what "do nothing" does, so try the other option is completely reasonable.
This isn't like a giant squid blowing up in new york and claiming it was aliens to bring peace or some shit.
This literally brings more damage then anything, even if it's bad men with power going against each other
This literally brings more damage then anything, even if it's bad men with power going against each other
Trump is a piece of shit. The people the voted for him are pieces of shit and if they still manage to do the mental gymnastics to not see this for what it is: Trump attempting to protect himself by any means Then mother nature needs to hurry the fuck up.
Trump and his enablers are fucking vile and people are going to fucking die because of their fragile, entitled, dumb fucking asses
Trump and his enablers are fucking vile and people are going to fucking die because of their fragile, entitled, dumb fucking asses
Is your assertion that the US bombing things helps the people? Can I get some receipts of this working in the last 40 years?
Yes I know this is very possibly being used to help smokescreen all that shit, but these kinds of posts are absurd. Distraction or not, these are human lives we're talking about. It must take priority regardless.
why would anybody be worried with anxiety? what's wrong people? trump and his buddy putin, he'd never do anything wrong to russia. oy vey.
Yeah, this is the thing. People just seem to ignore this. What gives US the right to just act? That's bullshit. But it's cool, this age of being above international law will be over in our lifetime I think - though we'll be old and gray.
Even if these are "we need a distraction and have to save face" strikes.
I'd trust the guy who's in the city which is being bombed more than 2 dudes in the Pentagon.
Yeah, except Trump telegraphed it like a week ago and both Russia and Syria were well prepared. Honestly I don't know what the right solution is, but I would agree that both Obama and Trump are kind of equally "effective" in this crisis...
That you all love to believe and discuss corporate media narratives?
When in history has war ever been portrayed truthfully in the media?
It's hard to sit by and watch people in a bubble, I'm sorry. America has lied and made false claims hundreds of times to go to war. Don't act surprised. America is not the good guy.
Can't tell if serious.
Why I am outed as a conspiracy theorist if I don't follow corporate media? I don't trust Era in their knowledge in geo politics.
I think a lot of the more, uh, cautious takes are largely based on the following:
1) The strikes last year did jack shit to protect any civilians. Chemical attacks are fairly regular there, actually! Just that most aren't caught on camera as well as this one was.
2) Syria had days to move whatever they wanted after Trump initially threatened them + we called Russia first.
3) The timing is ridiculous.
Not a single person here is attempting to argue that less chemical attacks are bad or anything.
1) The strikes last year did jack shit to protect any civilians. Chemical attacks are fairly regular there, actually! Just that most aren't caught on camera as well as this one was.
2) Syria had days to move whatever they wanted after Trump initially threatened them + we called Russia first.
3) The timing is ridiculous.
Not a single person here is attempting to argue that less chemical attacks are bad or anything.
I think disabling chemical weapons capabilities is a sound decision, especially if they are being used against civiians in a 7 year long war.
This is doing nothing.
Even in the Pentagon briefing they stated that there are many more sites that we didn't hit because of Russian troops. So we blew up a few chemical weapons, and killed some civilians just for Assad to continue to use them.
He's been using them since we hit them the last time. He uses them repeatedly. Either we go to war or we let Assad win. Any in-between is cosmetic.
The targets could literally be empty fields. This tells me nothing. Also Assad doesn't give a shit. I don't know what the right solution is, but I really don't know enough to feel strongly about some random bombing... Russia being pissed always makes me happy though...
Where is the increased acceptance of Syrian refugees if we are really that concerned with its people all of a sudden?
So is this going to be something similar as to last year's missile strikes? Just a show of force that only does either short-term and/or minimal damage against Syria's forces?
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Becoming more obvious it was a chlorine gas attack, which CNN pointed out has been used dozen of times in the last year with no repercussions.
His base at Breitbart and pol also seem to be fucking pissed so that's a plus as well
Hey. I have PTSD and anxiety, and this is not causing me any painc at all.
What are you afraid of?
You are going to be fine. I'm not saying this event is nothing, but right now you are fine.
I completely understand how you are feeling. Stop reading the thread it's full of genuinely alarmist people.
The strikes have happened. People are dead.
You are fine.
Tomorrow take a break from era, and the news. Realize that you worrying will not change the corsre of geopolitical nonsense.
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