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Trump tweets about the "Chinese virus" UP: Trump: "It's not racist at all"/Official White House position: It's the media's fake outrage
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Your friend is a dense cunt. Make sure to tell him that, too.
Or we don't entertain conspiracy theory nonsense in the slightest.
I mean, you should be worried about idiot state actors who want to throw stones across the pond, but unless you want to simultaneously say people like Lindsay Graham and John Cornyn are reflective of the entire US Govt, I would sit this one out.
Not shocked or surprised at things like this. Not even disappointed. I am, however, livid on how this will lead to even more racist rhetoric than before.
The best I can do is explain to people why calling it that is in fact racist. I'll also see if I can support local Asian restaurants and such because I'm sure they're going through hell right now.
The best I can do is explain to people why calling it that is in fact racist. I'll also see if I can support local Asian restaurants and such because I'm sure they're going through hell right now.
yeah dude guys, if we want to be techinical about this, it came from a fucking wild animal. Maybe call it bat virus?
The Huanan market is where the first known outbreak happened, back in Dec. 2019. But there are indications that the disease had been spreading since November so it's looking more and more unlikely that that's the origin of the virus.
It's not a Chinese narrative; it's just something that some random idiot came up with. The official Chinese stance doesn't blame the US at all.
Why is it necessary to come up with your own pet names? It's recognizably called Covid-19.
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While we're at it, how can we battle the narrative that the Moon is made of green cheese?
I hear that for those that practice BS monitoring. The problem is that a vast majority of the Chinese population believes any bullshit the CCP spews. They shouldn't be polluting the infosphere with their support of false narratives.
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I see no real issue with calling it the Wuhan virus considering that is where all the evidence is pointing towards. There are people who object to this labelling, and I think that unfortunately undermines the valid criticisms of labelling it a Chinese virus.
It already has a name though. Why again do you want to associate Wuhan and Wuhan people with this thing?
If it's the same bat from Contagion, it's on site with that motherfucker.
Someone should tell your friend posting shit like this isn't going to get racists to accept him as one of the "good" Asians.
Absolutely we need to discuss it all and find a way to help going forward
That was just the first case in America per quick googling. It apparently started in Britain, France, or China.
Start saying that it's made of ribs. Then it's a space race to eat it.
the moon is clearly made out of the lik'm'stiks from fun dip and i won't hear otherwise
I mean let's not forget that it is wet market culture which enabled the virus to mutate, as far as we know, and that China's government needs to address this. It does need to be flagged up... just not used for generalisations like good. And it's not like that culture is unique/isolated to China. I think they have banned it already?
But yeah of course this, totally true. The sinophobia is gonna fucking EXPLODE in coming years, and he is not helping whatsoever
Surprised he didn't say people suffering from the homosexual HIV/AIDS are in a high risk group.
Cletus isn't going to care what kind of Asian he is when he's fucking bashing his brains in.
Diaspora solidarity is so important right now and you have mfs out here trying to get on the good side of the white supremacists.
Diaspora solidarity isn't possible on this topic because a lot of complicated, divisive stuff has been happening in the Asian / Chinese community.
for example, I regularly see my own people, Hong Kongers, and Hong Kong media, who are absolutely delighted by Trump's statement because of the way China has been treating Hong Kong.
it sucks because this isn't the first time anti-China sentiment from Republicans and HKers lines up like this, but it's also complicated
for example, I regularly see my own people, Hong Kongers, and Hong Kong media, who are absolutely delighted by Trump's statement because of the way China has been treating Hong Kong.
it sucks because this isn't the first time anti-China sentiment from Republicans and HKers lines up like this, but it's also complicated
If you're living in the west as an Asian, in the interests of self preservation, we should band together for this. Not sure if white supremacists will be asking for my nationality before bashing me for being Chinese, or if they'd stop because I was actually from HK or Vietnam. They can barely tell us apart as it is.
As someone from HK, I can only see Trump's statements as aiding CCP's messaging internally in China. When the leader of the West is so obviously stoking sinophobia, it makes it much easier for their own propaganda to paint the US as the enemy, encourage the nationalism and conspiracy theories, and lap up all the failings the west have in handling the crisis. It is sad to say that CCP is succeeding in its propaganda.
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I don't why it's 'racist' to identify the virus with the place it originated from? i don't even believe in it's stigmatic potential :/
we had in the previous years:
- MERS "Middle eastern respiratory syndrome" originated in: Middle East
- "Rocky mountain spotted fever" originated in: USA
- Lyme - German measles - Japanese encephalitis - Alkhurma hemorrhagic fever
- Waardenburg - Mediterranean fever, Malta fever, Cyprus fever...........
we had in the previous years:
- MERS "Middle eastern respiratory syndrome" originated in: Middle East
- "Rocky mountain spotted fever" originated in: USA
- Lyme - German measles - Japanese encephalitis - Alkhurma hemorrhagic fever
- Waardenburg - Mediterranean fever, Malta fever, Cyprus fever...........
If I were Biden/on Biden's team, I'd come out with something like this:
Make it about him.
Make it about him.
We're not going to win a branding war against Trump, the GOP and the right wing media machine.
It has a name, and maybe more importantly, most people know it already by "coronavirus", which might not be the most scientifically accurate thing, but it ain't gonna get Asian people murdered and it's not gonna help the GOP deflect blame.
No. That's playing the GOP's game, which Democrats are horrifically inept at.
I'm not saying rename it and use that term from now on. I'm saying in their response to this (because they should respond to this IMO), they should say something along the lines of "Trump virus is more adequate than Chinese virus". But of course they should keep using the real name, Covid-19.
We try not to do that anymore, for various reasons. First it can be fucking racist (although I'm sure people are still absolutely dying to defend the practice). Second, it's actually detrimental to health professionals learning about the viruses/diseases because the names don't mean anything.
Because it spurs racist sentiment in the general public who then take it out on anyone who in this case looks vaguely Asian.
It has a name, COVID19 , just fucking use that.
Trump is a racist piece of shit. I'm so tired of the constant jumping through hoops to rationalize racist behavior. Being racist is more that spouting racial epithets. It's a mindset and a philosophy that comes in all flavors.
Trump knew damn well what he was saying, and what what he was saying was implying. He's not as clever or slick as he thinks he is. But that goes without saying.
Trump knew damn well what he was saying, and what what he was saying was implying. He's not as clever or slick as he thinks he is. But that goes without saying.
COVID-19 is already a pandemic. There's no point in calling it with the name of its origin place, because you can actually catch it from practically anywhere now. From anybody. It's now a world flu.
Maybe a case can be made if the disease still only endemic (or persistently endemic) on its origin area as to act as warning so travelers can be cautious or prepare themselves with proper vaccines/prophylaxis medication beforehand. But that's it.
It's not even a dog whistle guys. Anyway, I know some of yall are pretty smart and want to rationalize things, and I can easily make a case for alternative nomenclature too. But most people are not very smart and I experienced many not smart things growing up in this country. No more fuel for the fire please.
Their Twitter profile has them next to trump and wearing a maga hat.
He's racist. Of course too stupid to realise that his idols hate him too
I know this is a weird takeaway from this but why do Americans always go to take off their jackets to look threatening? I've seen nobody else do that or at least with that frequency.
Man is a cunt.
One of the managers at work today made it point to loudly say the "WUHAN" virus had come, as we had our first case in Lancaster, PA.
I guess when you're a racist it makes you feel better about the pandemic to blame Chinese people. Clearly America is the best and we totally handled the outbreak right way and aren't a grossly incompetent country run by a worthless leader. That would mean actually self reflecting and not just lashing out when you're afraid.
I guess when you're a racist it makes you feel better about the pandemic to blame Chinese people. Clearly America is the best and we totally handled the outbreak right way and aren't a grossly incompetent country run by a worthless leader. That would mean actually self reflecting and not just lashing out when you're afraid.
Pretty good name for a sports team "Wuhan Virus"
On a serious note I think it is important that China tried to cover up the virus and is largely at fault for the situation right now. If they took the measures they do now immediately things at least might have turned out better. My father is stuck there and they've been on lockdown for quite a while now, you can't leave your block and only one person gets to leave the house once on a weekly basis.
I have more problems with the camps and slavery tough. Would 100% support any action taken against China as long as it's motivated by the right thing: human rights.
Ingraining this bullshit us vs them mentality among his base is the best chance he has at a re election and he knows it. It worked for him before, it'll probably work again.
Lmao please, both countries are constantly trying to pick fights with each other and the rest of the world.
Lmao please, both countries are constantly trying to pick fights with each other and the rest of the world.
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What the actual fuck.
God damn America the virus is literally kicking your people in the ass because your own gov incompetence despite weeks to jump in front of it. This is so transparently bullshit and the fact that so many people actually still follow this orange shitstain lead is so frustrating to watch, my god.
I really must've missed a universal update or something, didn't know comedians are now allowed carte blanche to be openly racist in the interest of having fun...
That number of favorites is just despair inducing to see too
If these idiots really believe he has the virus, why the hell are they all up in his face? Like that's the opposite of what they should be trying to Do?