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Trump tweets spliced together video of Ilhan Omar and 9/11
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Nancy Pelosi and Chelsea Clinton worked together to send Trump the edited video, we been knew.
All people are asking for is that the ostensible leader of the left party not be a completely useless piece of shit in the face of racist Islamophobia by the leader of the right party, but I guess even that is a bridge too far for loyal followers of Madame Speaker of the Shades.
This is called tactically lying so you don't have to make a public statement. She probably saw the clip before a lot of posters here did.
I could say "lol only took him 22 minutes" but its actually good he or his interns or w/e realized it was pretty limpdick to to that spiel and not even say her name
Trump is going to call for his supporters to commit violence and still nothing will be done to him.
There's no such thing.
And that's the depressing truth.
They'd short circuit trying to bend over and talk about how "no I'm the most jingoistic person ever, actually"
Because they are terrified of the GOP calling them hypocrites
Yes, that's clearly what's being argued.
Clearly.
This is a really disappointing response. The lack of party solidarity by Democratic leadership for the freshman Congresswoman, in light of how grotesque and unprecedented the attacks on Omar are, is part of the discussion. It cannot be ignored. Trump is emboldened by the fact that the Dem establishment has left Omar to fend for herself, or even joined in the GOP attacks... we have to hold Democrats' feet to the fire on this.
It is germane to the discussion.
All i want is our party to have a spine and stand behind Omar. A simple condemnation is not a high bar to achieve.
What do you expect the Dems to do that would actually matter? I guess impeachment is an option but that goes nowhere since the GOP won't give a fuck in the Senate.
Wow he took 20 minutes, send him to the guillotine already.
It seems like there is far more outrage against Pelosi's lack of support, than for Trump. I don't know whether that's due to Trump exhaustion and endless bar lowering, or double standards for the left vs right. The next news cycle if Pelosi does what you ask:
"Pelosi stands by Congresswoman who dismissed 9/11 attack"
He already offered to pardon a border agency guy if he got arrested for breaking the law.
I have no doubt he would do it. He's a vindictive narcissist.
How? her response was made before Trump's tweet.
That poster intentionally posted that to stir up shit, and nothing has been done.
I'm starting to feel this forum is not trying to moderate political threads anymore.
he needs to be locked up for life but he's just going to be able to finish his term like nothing's happened
This was hours before the clip existed. Inform yourself before talking bullshit.
This was the point I was trying to make, getting too caught up in the "response isn't sufficient until maybe it is" type of back and forth.
I'm glad people still want to discuss what is happening here. Carry on.
They were just pointing out that he tweeted her name in response to being called out, so it wasn't a very good "gotcha."
He's been condoning it since he was a celebrity in NYC in the 80's. He literally called for five black kids to get the chair. On the front page of the NYT.
There's literally a mod post above that's been replied to multiple times for how dumb it is.
The tweet was posted 4 hours ago by the hill and it popped into my timeline. I did not post it to 'stir shit' so kindly stop trying to get me in trouble.
Im not sure your post in bad faith deserves a response but ill give it a shot. The democratic leadership response in defense of Omar has been laughably shit. From taking her comments out of context and calling what she said anti-semitic to openly dissing her at AIPAC.
I'm talking about the CAIR video.
"To speak with her, to see the nature of her comment"
I took it as though she was acting like she hadn't seen the video and needed extra context for no reason when a full speech text and video is out there.
Agreed. Standing up to racism might get negative news coverage and we certainly can't have that. Best to capitulate straight away and hope it just blows over. Why must this Omar woman be so uppity? She's making things extremely awkward at the Thursday AIPAC cocktail.
I'm shocked that as a very online poster you had no idea that The Hill specialises in muckraking and reposting old content!
This has been building up since the freshman class entered Congress, and in many ways long before that. The time for personal anger at Trump is past, because it does absolutely fuck all. It was useful leading up to 2018 in order to get out the vote. Now that we have already voted, the main thing we can do is watch the political process play out. The only people with any semblance of non-violent, non-revolutionary political power, from now until November 2020, are our representatives in office, who're literally there in order to handle this stuff. We don't live in a direct democracy; we hand over control of the government and invest authority to representatives to take care of this for us.
So what is going to happen, what are they going to do, or is leadership planning to just shuffle their feet for the next 2 years?
So what is going to happen, what are they going to do, or is leadership planning to just shuffle their feet for the next 2 years?
We should just make it a rule to immediately throw under the bus any minority or person of color in office who dares to rock the boat. Can't risk a negative news cycle!
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So then posts about actual statements pelosi and others made which have contributed to the fears Trump is stoking with his tweet is still fair game?
Oh no 20 minutes! He might have just walked away to get some coffee.
Way to exaggerate. No one's asking for anyone's head. People are asking for the Democrats to stand up for one of their own.
It's not hard to comprehend.
I don't understand an unwillingness to engage with the factors that allow an environment conducive and receptive to the bile that the GOP serve up on a daily basis. We can't be outraged at the symptoms while simultaneously ignoring the fact that compromising with them does not seem to be working. We can't claim criticizing Democratic leadership for inadequate responses benefits the right and then normalize the sentiments behind what they are saying. Sometimes looking at how people interpret and respond to the messages that are being put out is more informative than the responses themselves (like with Twitter replies and the kind of signal boosting that happens, unintentionally or otherwise). The things that are said have an effect. A race to the bottom benefits no one but the GOP.
Good stuff from Pete. This is one of the darkest days of this presidency. And that's truly saying something.
It was made a day after the NY Post front page. A day after FOX News continued the smearing of Ilhan Omar by calling her un-American. A day after some fake "Imam" who took her out of context got retweeted by a member of the opposing party.
That response even with context, sucks.
Trump is literally just another symptom.
It's vile and repugnant that he does this, but if the GOP comes into power in 2024 again they'll nominate someone that keeps the quiet part quiet while being even more evil and then we'll see how people react.
But is it so hard to comprehend twenty minutes is an endless eternity on Twitter and frothy hysteria must be sated immediately else circular firing squads must commence immediately?
Well said. There are structural issues at play and being aware of how our side plays into things is important because we shouldn't contribute more to the atmosphere.
It's Twitter. It's not made for normal conversation.
Tbh if he was going to defend Ilhan it would've been preferable if he had mentioned her name to show support in the first tweet. I'm glad he did mention her in the second tweet so I'm not going to rake him over the coals. At least he's trying.
All i want is for trump not to be president anymore. I'm sure neither of you are fans of trump but we are in a situation where everyone is so sick and tired of talking about how shitty trump is that in a topic about how hes dont the 1000th aweful shit this week the conversation is dominated about how weak Dems are in response. With so much at stake noone has their eye on the ball at all. The strategy of flooding with so much controversy that the enemy turs on each other is working as intended. Republicans have weaponized integrity and we are falling for it.
Is integrity attacking her at AIPAC?
When we criticize Dem leadership, now or in the last 2 years, it was because we felt strongly they weren't doing enough.
Now, when we need their voices and leadership more than ever, they're nowhere to be found. It was all building up to this. The only people who couldn't see this coming was the leadership itself.
He could literally call her a terror sympathiser or fake American and there would be zero consequence.
