Trump tweets spliced together video of Ilhan Omar and 9/11

[Dierce]

People in a "45 tweets" thread are now chanting "fuck Pelosi".

Ya'll need to take a step back.

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Yeah if we all step back we can clearly see that this is a no win situation for democrats. You defend Omar and alienate moderates or you do nothing and risk losing the liberal base.

Truly republicans are winning here and it's clear that they don't want Omar to stop talking, she is helping their cause immensely. And I'm saying that as someone who honestly doesn't want her to stop talking because this is a tactic that republicans have been using for decades and maybe Omar will be the person to render it useless. She should keep making controversial comments every week if possible, and hopefully stay safe of course.

 

[gaogaogao]

whats the life expectancy on being so feckless? we need new leaders.

 

[cakely]

Yes, let's all heap a ton of praise on Pelosi for her milquetoast response that doesn't even protect her party. After all, unity is a one way street and minorities should just be thankful we even get to sit at the table and should know our role as living props. Furthermore, funny how Schumer is also protected from criticism while he gets to straight up join the republicans bashing Omar.

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Did I say that?

 

[Kusagari]

The only real thing you can say about Pelosi is that she's better than fuck heads like Schumer and Hoyer, which is damning praise at best.

 

[MilesQ]

Anyone who hates kids being separated from their parents and put in cages. Anyone who hates the idea of RBG being replaced by another conservative judge. No one is making you vote, but there's definitive reasons to do so regardless of whether or not you completely love the candidate.

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What about those who feel abandoned by the Democratic party and have had enough of always having to help a party that doesn't have their back when it really comes down to it. A party where it's becoming increasingly obvious that they see them more as props to show how inclusive they are?

 

[Busaiku]

What trump posted was ridiculous and offensive, however Omar talked about 9/11 in a wildly dismissive fashion. Pelosi is right to attack trump and avoid defending her, its political poison to associate with her right now and we need to beat trump in 2020.

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Oh no, Pelosi only won by 74 points in conservative San Francisco.
She needs to make sure the Republicans don't vote her out.

 

[jerf]

she's not uppity

It's like you don't understand my argument that resetera=/=America.

Yes, we, resetera, understand what she meant. No, that does not mean the rest of America does.

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Let's be real here, everyone and I mean EVERYONE knows what she meant. They are simply choosing to hear what they want because it goes along with their racist beliefs.

Not directed at you but I can't believe the GOP is still getting away with the "Aww shucks, we didn't know we were being vile evil racist (/homophobe/xenophobe/transphobe/islamaphobe/etc.). We just didn't know." *wink*

Seriously we give these fucks the benefit of the doubt time and time again. They know exactly what they are doing and they revel in it.

 

[MilesQ]

Yeah if we all step back we can clearly see that this is a no win situation for democrats. You defend Omar and alienate moderates or you do nothing and risk losing the liberal base.

Truly republicans are winning here and it's clear that they don't want Omar to stop talking, she is helping their cause immensely. And I'm saying that as someone who honestly doesn't want her to stop talking because this is a tactic that republicans have been using for decades and maybe Omar will be the person to render it useless. She should keep making controversial comments every week if possible, and hopefully stay safe of course.

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Maybe it's time to take a firm stand, lose some 'moderates' and show the liberal/minority base that they truly matter and that they will be defended from such attacks?

 

[Trodimus]

Oh no, Pelosi only won by 74 points in conservative San Francisco.
She needs to make sure the Republicans don't vote her out.

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Pelosi's views have national implications and will impact the 2020 candidate so she needs to play it safe. Purity tests will lead us to trump in 2020 if we're not careful and we keep attacking our own.

 

[Carolina Reaper]

What about those who feel abandoned by the Democratic party and have had enough of always having to help a party that doesn't have their back when it really comes down to it. A party where it's becoming increasingly obvious that they see them more as props to show how inclusive they are?

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They can choose to not vote.

Pelosi's views have national implications and will impact the 2020 candidate so she needs to play it safe. Purity tests will lead us to trump in 2020 if we're not careful and we keep attacking our own.

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That's basically what Barack said last week.

 

[SaveWeyard]

Pelosi's views have national implications and will impact the 2020 candidate so she needs to play it safe. Purity tests will lead us to trump in 2020 if we're not careful and we keep attacking our own.

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Ignoring PoC got us Trump in 2016.

 

[Busaiku]

Pelosi's views have national implications and will impact the 2020 candidate so she needs to play it safe. Purity tests will lead us to trump in 2020 if we're not careful and we keep attacking our own.

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How is Pelosi my own when she actively perpetuates hate against people like me in the Middle East.
When she supports a state that condemns some of my family's right to exist.
And will not defend Americans like myself when Republicans are trying to get us killed.

 

[Ponn]

This would accomplish nothing but cause even more resentment amongst the moderate members of the Democratic Party.

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Fuck the moderate members of the party.

If the base of minorities in the Democratic Party left to form their own party that stopped being beholden to the white straight moderates I guaran-fucking-tee you those moderates would have no problem shedding their sheep skins and voting Republican. Shit, I wouldn't be surprised if the tut-tutting vocal "moderates" haven't already been voting Republican.

The Democratic Party need minorities more than minorities need them. That's why you see even democrats attacking AOC and trying to throw Omar under the bus. They are scared shitless of the change in power structure.

 

[DigitalOp]

People in a "45 tweets" thread are now chanting "fuck Pelosi".

Y'all need to take a step back.

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45 is always gonna be himself and a shitbag. Ire for him and Republicans is pointless because it's been inherit since even before he took office.

Right now, you either believe Omar is being targeted and needs to be protected or you think Omar is becoming a problem for the Democratic Party.

Pick a goddamn stance so we can sort you better. Tired of this bullshit

 

[Dierce]

Maybe it's time to take a firm stand, lose some 'moderates' and show the liberal/minority base that they truly matter and that they will be defended from such attacks?

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Im all for taking risks at this point but we should also keep in mind that there is an equal chance that it will cost the democratic party some needed votes to gain a majority. It's good to always think of the worst case scenario and act accordingly.

 

[Deleted member 15440]

They can choose to not vote.


That's basically what Barack said last week.

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ah good that barack "democrats lost 1000 seats and entirely collapsed at the state level during my presidency" obama has some advice for democrats on how to win legislative elections

 

[Carolina Reaper]

ah good that barack "democrats lost 1000 seats and entirely collapsed at the state level during my presidency" obama has some advice for democrats on how to win legislative elections

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He's right though. You can hate it all you want, but he's 1000 percent right.

 

[Deleted member 22490]

People in a "45 tweets" thread are now chanting "fuck Pelosi".

Y'all need to take a step back.

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You need to step up, actually.

It's no use in getting angry solely with Trump. He is a symptom. We have to diagnose how we got to this point and we must be critical of how our Democratic representatives respond to this.

 

[Deleted member 15440]

He's right though. You can hate it all you want, but he's 1000 percent right.

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purity tests and constant infighting gave republicans their greatest victory in the last century of american politics, and telling democrats to shut up and tolerate shitty moderate candidates has backfired every single time but ok

 

[Noodle]

You defend Omar and alienate moderates or you do nothing and risk losing the liberal base.

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Won't someone please think of the white moderate?

How about doing what's right? Pelosi couldn't even bring herself to mention Omar's name, instead trying to pretend it was an attack on the memory of 9/11 instead of one of her colleagues.

 

[Trodimus]

purity tests and constant infighting gave republicans their greatest victory in the last century of american politics, and telling democrats to shut up and tolerate shitty moderate candidates has backfired every single time but ok

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Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate in history that's all there is to it. Romney got more votes than trump did and he got his ass kicked.

 

[Deleted member 31817]

The fact that Pelosi said bullshit like "I won't call out someone until I call them in" is well, bullshit. But it's speaking. Democrats pockets are lined. They can't cross that line. That's why you only have the 'potential' candidates defending Ilhan and not any actual Democrats in office. Pelosi, Schumer, they're practically silent. They won't defend this. They're playing the political game.

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Schumer won't defend this because he probably legit hates Omar considering his love of Bibi and rightwing Israel lmao

 

[Alligatorjandro]

If a moderate is willing to support a party that has literal white supremacists then what kind of moderate are you

 

[Deleted member 15440]

Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate in history that's all there is to it. Romney got more votes than trump did and he got his ass kicked.

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yeah that falls under the second half of my statement

and it's what obama is saying to do right now

 

[Dekim]

If minorities choose not to vote in 2020, you can expect these same 'moderates' to blame us for not happily being cannon fodder for their political benefit. It is all about subservience to the Democratic party and how we black and brown folks should be thankful that Democrats have the decency to not throw racial slurs in our faces and *gasp* actually allowing us to vote and have basic human rights.

 

[Tamanon]

Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate in history that's all there is to it. Romney got more votes than trump did and he got his ass kicked.

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Romney got 2 million less votes than Trump.

 

[SolarPowered]

I heard about this yesterday on the news, but I hadn't seen the clip until now. JFC, Trump is actually going to get her or someone in her vicinity killed and he'll get off scott free. This is setting some terrifying precedents and Pelosi's pathetic response isn't helping.

We really need new leadership in the Democratic party. Christ, people of color AIN'T SHIT to Democrats.

Depressing

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

If Omar, God forbid, gets harmed or killed, that would be a national tragedy and could (and should) severely hurt Trump and the Democratic establishment that willingly left her in the dust. Most people that dislike Omar (or at least a good portion) don't want her to be harmed in any capacity. We should be outraged, but my concern is how much power do the voters have to correct the mistakes or sheer incompetence of the authority? At this point, I've reached the point of nihilism where no matter what happens, we won't move to the Left. This nation perhaps lost their way and have completely submerged into right-wing fascism with no escape.

 

[Xaszatm]

purity tests and constant infighting gave republicans their greatest victory in the last century of american politics, and telling democrats to shut up and tolerate shitty moderate candidates has backfired every single time but ok

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It's incredible that it's always the minority's fault for Trump because we simply want to be heard. Our offense that we are used as props is what's to blame and not the fact that we are used as props. Apparently in order to win, minorities need to be grateful for every slap the democrats give us and keep silent because if we dare raise more than a murmur of political desires we are "breaking the unity".

It's infuriating.

 

[Elegant Weapon]

People in a "45 tweets" thread are now chanting "fuck Pelosi".

Y'all need to take a step back.

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cause fuck all context right?

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

It's incredible that it's always the minority's fault for Trump because we simply want to be heard. Our offense that we are used as props is what's to blame and not the fact that we are used as props. Apparently in order to win, minorities need to be grateful for every slap the democrats give us and keep silent because if we dare raise more than a murmur of political desires we are "breaking the unity".

It's infuriating.

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Minorities and the marginalized have no party in America. They would have to form their own

 

[Deleted member 31817]

Uh so why are ZERO dems (including bernie and warren) mentioning how the video is deceptively edited?

 

[Dierce]

Won't someone please think of the white moderate?

How about doing what's right? Pelosi couldn't even bring herself to mention Omar's name, instead trying to pretend it was an attack on the memory of 9/11 instead of one of her colleagues.

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Yeah I agree that democratic leaders need to grow a spine. Pelosi should have defended Omar directly but lets not ignore the fact that doing so plays right into the republican party hands. But I say go for it, maybe they wont be expecting dems to do something that they consider reckless in the first place.

 

[SolarPowered]

If Omar, God forbid, gets harmed or killed, that would be a national tragedy and could (and should) severely hurt Trump and the Democratic establishment that willingly left her in the dust. Most people that dislike Omar (or at least a good portion) don't want her to be harmed in any capacity. We should be outraged, but my concern is how much power do the voters have to correct the mistakes or sheer incompetence of the authority? At this point, I've reached the point of nihilism where no matter what happens, we won't move to the Left. This nation perhaps lost their way and have completely submerged into right-wing fascism with no escape.

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You sweet summer child....

If 2016 hasn't opened your eyes then nothing will. A good third of America is actually perfectly ready for a dictatorship so long as they get to believe they're on top.

 

[Kusagari]

People in a "45 tweets" thread are now chanting "fuck Pelosi".

Y'all need to take a step back.

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All that does is show why it's worthless to even try to thread the needle. Just like when AOC tried to please both sides during the initial "all the benjamins" debacle and she was smeared by the GOP as an antisemite.

 

[SaveWeyard]

Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate in history that's all there is to it. Romney got more votes than trump did and he got his ass kicked.

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"Hillary was the worst candidate" is an empty statement on its own, though. Why was she the worst?

 

[Elegant Weapon]

Most people that dislike Omar (or at least a good portion) don't want her to be harmed in any capacity.

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They are only heaping tons of hateful propaganda at her while ignoring the multiple death threats she's received, but they don't want her dead!

come on, they don't care how they silence this woman and most would cheer if one of their cult succeeds in killing her. Let's stop making excuses for vile shit, first of all

 

[Deleted member 31817]

Yeah I agree that democratic leaders need to grow a spine. Pelosi should have defended Omar directly but lets not ignore the fact that doing so plays right into the republican party hands. But I say go for it, maybe they wont be expecting dems to do something that they consider reckless in the first place.

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Defending their colleague is playing into Republican hands lmao

 

[TaySan]

Pelosi needs to go yesterday... she is useless

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

You sweet summer child....

If 2016 hasn't opened your eyes then nothing will. A good third of America is actually perfectly ready for a dictatorship so long as they get to believe they're on top.

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While sizable, a good third is still in the political minority and in this democratic Republic they would have little power. Again, we don't know the metrics of how many lunatics would want Omar killed with the exception of Trump's subreddit.

 

[Trodimus]

"Hillary was the worst candidate" is an empty statement on its own, though. Why was she the worst?

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She had zero charisma and changed her values a million times during her career. People want someone authentic and charismatic which is why Barack always did great.

 

[Deleted member 176]

If Omar, God forbid, gets harmed or killed, that would be a national tragedy and could (and should) severely hurt Trump and the Democratic establishment that willingly left her in the dust. Most people that dislike Omar (or at least a good portion) don't want her to be harmed in any capacity. We should be outraged, but my concern is how much power do the voters have to correct the mistakes or sheer incompetence of the authority? At this point, I've reached the point of nihilism where no matter what happens, we won't move to the Left. This nation perhaps lost their way and have completely submerged into right-wing fascism with no escape.

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If Omar died tragically, Trump would claim that he never meant harm and say it was just a crazed gunman. Everyone on the right and most moderates would agree that there was nothing he could have done, and a lot of people (including liberals) would find a way to half-blame Omar for making statements that would make somebody want to kill her. Then they'd go back to doing the same thing but for AOC.

 

[Deleted member 15440]

Yeah I agree that democratic leaders need to grow a spine. Pelosi should have defended Omar directly but lets not ignore the fact that doing so plays right into the republican party hands. But I say go for it, maybe they wont be expecting dems to do something that they consider reckless in the first place.

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this idea of "playing into the republicans hands" is honestly so dumb, as if there's literally anything that could be done to prevent virulent right wing attacks whether they're total lies or not.

republicans will say that pelosi is a socialist who hates america and is inviting terrorists to invade and kill every white baby. they will say this whether she strongly defends ilhan omar or not. the media will pick it up and broadcast it no matter what. there is literally nothing you can do to prevent this, so the entire concept of democrats helping or hurting this effort is just nonsense.

what hurts democrats is when they fail to do what's obviously the correct moral choice to their base. like what pelosi is doing right here.

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

They are only heaping tons of hateful propaganda at her while ignoring the multiple death threats she's received, but they don't want her dead!

come on, they don't care how they silence this woman and most would cheer if one of their cult succeeds in killing her. Let's stop making excuses for vile shit, first of all

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I'm not making excuses. Of course there is a cult that wants blood but how big is that cult is my question? Does size matter? Of course not. The fact they exist is a serious issue in itself.

 

[Kyra]

It's almost as if libs and dems have some work to do in that department and PoC have been saying that forever.

BTW, that's part of what that MLK quote means.

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I know what the MLK quote means. I also know who to blame for a crumbling democracy and it isn't just Republicans and less than hurculean den leadership.

Blame is useless.. Results matter.

 

[Dekim]

Continually using Trump's possible re-election as a bludgeon to beat us into subservience for the Democratic party has its limits. Like, fuck you. You think I don't want Trump and the entire GOP kicked to the curb in 2020? You think us black and brown people like the rise of the alt-right? Of course we don't. But how fucking dare us for expressing our disappointment to a party that is supposedly our allies. How dare us for being resentful for being used as political props. How dare us for raising the alarm that Democrats are feeding into racism and Islamophobia, even if indirectly.

Just fuck us, right?

 

[Deleted member 8561]

"ShE dOeS a GrEaT jOb"

she's done a fabulous job of mostly belittling the efforts of the diverse PoC rising stars of the party sure..

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You mean the freshmen congress men and women who have been in office for four months? The most prominent person, AOC which is in multiple committees?

I don't know, I think the minority leader who was around during one of the largest House swings in over 40 years for the Democrats? But I guess I'm biased by the history of results

 

[BabyDontHurtMe]

If Omar died tragically, Trump would claim that he never meant harm and say it was just a crazed gunman. Everyone on the right and most moderates would agree that there was nothing he could have done, and a lot of people (including liberals) would find a way to half-blame Omar for making statements that would make somebody want to kill her. Then they'd go back to doing the same thing but for AOC.

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So how do we stop this? What can we do to stop this? What powers do we have to end this shit? How much could we influence? I just can't find any answers.

 

[Deleted member 22490]

You mean the freshmen congress men and women who have been in office for four months?

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No, I think he means rising stars, which they are.

 

[Dierce]

Defending their colleague is playing into Republican hands lmao

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this idea of "playing into the republicans hands" is honestly so dumb, as if there's literally anything that could be done to prevent virulent right wing attacks whether they're total lies or not.

republicans will say that pelosi is a socialist who hates america and is inviting terrorists to invade and kill every white baby. they will say this whether she strongly defends ilhan omar or not. the media will pick it up and broadcast it no matter what. there is literally nothing you can do to prevent this, so the entire concept of democrats helping or hurting this effort is just nonsense.

what hurts democrats is when they fail to do what's obviously the correct moral choice to their base. like what pelosi is doing right here.

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Not disagreeing with either of you here. I know republicans will lie regardless but it's not about what they get to tell their base that will eat anything up, it's about how much they can divide the democratic party. Also Im sure Pelosi talks to plenty of democrats pushing her to get rid of Omar, of course she will never disclose that.