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Tucker Carlson Has Failed to Assimilate

While I favor granting citizenship automatically to children born in the United States, I was reminded of birthright citizenship's biggest downside Tuesday while listening to Tucker Carlson on his Fox News show.

Unlike immigrants, natural-born citizens such as Carlson are neither screened nor forced to pass a citizenship test nor made to swear an oath. And when they stray from the American way, no one thinks to tell them that they're failing to assimilate. But isn't "failure to assimilate" an accurate way to characterize Carlson's angry identitarianism? Carlson, who broadcasts to millions of viewers on national television, keeps fueling xenophobia and needless social strife by singling out people who weren't born in America for special ire, then attributing negative qualities to whole groups. He just can't get with the program of the American experiment.
A case in point was his monologue last night about Ilhan Omar, a Somali-born woman who came to the U.S. as a 12-year-old refugee and is now, at 36, a member of Congress. Carlson purported to characterize her views. "Omar isn't disappointed in America," he said. "She's enraged by it. Virtually every public statement she makes accuses Americans of bigotry and racism. This is an immoral country, she says. She has undisguised contempt for the United States and for its people.

A review of Omar's public statements shows that isn't true. Although Omar is frequently critical of the United States, she tends to attack what she regards as the country's failure to live up to its lofty values. "She was almost like a cliché of a civic-minded new American," one of her college professors told The New York Times. "She would quote the Declaration of Independence asking, 'Why have we come up short?'"
The same article quotes Ilhan saying: "I think back to the orientations I went through a little over 20 years ago in the process of coming to this country, and in those orientations they did not have people who were homeless. There was an America that extended liberty and justice to everyone. There was an America where prosperity was guaranteed regardless of where you were born and what you looked like and who you prayed to. I wasn't comfortable with that hypocrisy."
I don't always agree with Omar. And I don't expect Carlson to, either. If Carlson had simply quoted Omar's views and dissented on the merits, even harshly, I would not be writing on the subject.

But Carlson suggested that because Omar came here as a child, she doesn't have the right to voice critical opinions about America—that her gratitude for citizenship should result in silence. And then he cited her views as if they bear on the attitudes of immigrants generally, before engaging in sweeping, negative generalizations about them. "Ilhan Omar is living proof that the way we practice immigration has become dangerous to this country," he said. "A system designed to strengthen America is instead undermining it … She's a living fire alarm, a warning to the rest of us that we ought to change our immigration system immediately, or else."
"Maybe we're importing people from places whose values are simply antithetical to ours," Carlson continued. But isn't it Carlson who holds views antithetical to American harmony? Perhaps Carlson provides "living proof" that it is dangerous to grant citizenship to San Francisco–born, La Jolla–raised white men.

If that sounds like a parody of what a "grievance studies" professor would believe, Carlson is the real-life, nativist analogue of that parody, fit for a tenured chair at Trump University. For other examples of his generalizations about foreign-born people, I refer you to his fear-mongering monologue concerning Roma refugees in America and his appearances on a morning radio show, where he called the citizens of Iraq "semiliterate primitive monkeys" for whom he has "zero sympathy." He has also suggested that immigration "makes our own country poorer and dirtier and more divided."





Arguably not worth paying attention to this clown, but his monologues seem to get more extreme each month, and he's somehow a national news personality. Even people critical of Omar should be questioning this stuff having as wide of a TV audience as it does.
 

uzipukki

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Fucker at it again. God i hate him with every fiber of my being.
 

Fat4all

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tucker carlson is living proof that eating shit might be more productive than listening to his drivel
 

uzipukki

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tucker carlson is living proof that eating shit might be more productive than listening to his drivel
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Slayven

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They want her and AoC dead so bad, they are all but telling their crazies to kill her
 

cameron

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Andrew Lawrence@ndrew_lawrence

Tucker guest: "If @IlhanMN wasn't in Congress she would be in the KKK"

8:24 PM - Jul 10, 2019




Andrew Lawrence@ndrew_lawrence

People asked why @MMFA published the old Bubba tapes. This is why. So when he attacks Omar and immigration we can look back and say that he called Iraqis "semiliterate primitive monkeys" and that they don't "behave like human beings"

He's a racist piece of shit. It's who he is

9:17 PM - Jul 9, 2019
 
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If 'the foreigns' are so fucking bad asshole - perhaps you should refrain from gallivanting around the globe - you know, where 'the foreigns' are - with your shit stained tongue slurping around the Orange dimwit's ass - offering your useless platitudes to a man who only puts up with your presence because you can't help telling him how much you love him. He doesn't actually like you - you fucking racist idiot.
 
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They want her and AoC dead so bad, they are all but telling their crazies to kill her
Ilhan called his show out on Twitter. His producer responded by acting like she's calling for censorship:
"Fox News is now giving a nightly platform to white supremacist rhetoric. It's dangerous," she wrote. "Advertisers should not be underwriting hate speech."

Fox News quickly seized the opportunity to try and twist Carlson's attack on Omar into a controversy about free speech. In a statement sent to Vox, Justin Wells, senior executive producer of Carlson's show, wrote that "[a]nyone who values democracy and free expression should be gravely concerned when members of Congress demand that their critics be silenced. Tucker will address this on tonight's show."

Also:

The fact that these women don't back down against his bigoted and racist rhetoric must terrify Tucker.
 

phonicjoy

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Andrew Lawrence@ndrew_lawrence

Tucker guest: "If @IlhanMN wasn't in Congress she would be in the KKK"

8:24 PM - Jul 10, 2019




Andrew Lawrence@ndrew_lawrence

People asked why @MMFA published the old Bubba tapes. This is why. So when he attacks Omar and immigration we can look back and say that he called Iraqis "semiliterate primitive monkeys" and that they don't "behave like human beings"

He's a racist piece of shit. It's who he is

9:17 PM - Jul 9, 2019


That seems even more dangerous.. dehumanizing the other is like the basis of facism.
 

Ouroboros

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The biggest fans of something criticize it the most and want to see it be better. Omar doesn't hate America. She hates that it could be so much better and hated that because of a few old rich white men...it can't.

Oh and Tucker is a dummy.
 

$10 Bagel

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I like how if you criticize America and you were born here, you're told leave if you don't like it

If you weren't born here you're essentially told "stfu and be grateful we let you stay"
 

MilesQ

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Ilhan called his show out on Twitter. His producer responded by acting like she's calling for censorship:


Also:

The fact that these women don't back down against his bigoted and racist rhetoric must terrify Tucker.


This is the response they wanted, there's no way they went into this not knowing she'd respond urging advertisers to back away. This is their new tactic for when their anchors go on racist fueled hot-takes.
 

rjinaz

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I like how if you criticize America and you were born here, you're told leave if you don't like it

If you weren't born here you're essentially told "stfu and be grateful we let you stay"
The same kind of people that formed the "Tea Party" as a response to Democrats and Obama because, wait for it, they didn't like the direction America was going, hence, they were criticizing America in the same way. If only they could understand hypocrisy. But then again I think we all know thanks to Trump that only Republicans are actually Americans and Democrats are the enemy.
 

UltimateHigh

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yes, the dangerous omar with her beautiful family and spotless record, because she has the audacity to not be a nationistic, flag waving shitbird.
 

SecondNature

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Ill admit one thing: he is very effective

You can really see how Fox trains its viewers to see certain people
 

Kain-Nosgoth

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When he tells omar's story and he says "only in this country it could have happened"

the "AMERICA BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" narrative is still strong with him, lol
 

Strike

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At the end of the day it just comes down to her being black, Muslim, and a woman. It says a lot about this country (and proves Rep. Omar right) that this shitbird and his colleagues can continue to have such a large audience.
 

Shoeless

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I don't understand that caption in the OP. Why is Fox, of all news stations, accusing Ilhand Omar of being racist as if that were a BAD thing, when they celebrate racism? Like, how can Fox, of all media platforms, say "Racism is bad" when they think it's the greatest thing on Earth, and hold it closer to their hearts than Christianity?
 
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I don't understand that caption in the OP. Why is Fox, of all news stations, accusing Ilhand Omar of being racist as if that were a BAD thing, when they celebrate racism? Like, how can Fox, of all media platforms, say "Racism is bad" when they think it's the greatest thing on Earth, and hold it closer to their hearts than Christianity?
They don't think they're racist.
 

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This video is one of the most chilling examples I've seen of what is happening to America. Don't give me this "It's always been there" shit. While that statement is true, there is now an openly racist propaganda channel permitted on TV.
 

sphagnum

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I don't understand that caption in the OP. Why is Fox, of all news stations, accusing Ilhand Omar of being racist as if that were a BAD thing, when they celebrate racism? Like, how can Fox, of all media platforms, say "Racism is bad" when they think it's the greatest thing on Earth, and hold it closer to their hearts than Christianity?

Fox doesn't say racism is bad. Fox says all claims about racism by non-white people are false (except when liberals are mean to non-white conservatives) and that white people suffer racism more than anyone else.
 

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I don't understand that caption in the OP. Why is Fox, of all news stations, accusing Ilhand Omar of being racist as if that were a BAD thing, when they celebrate racism? Like, how can Fox, of all media platforms, say "Racism is bad" when they think it's the greatest thing on Earth, and hold it closer to their hearts than Christianity?
Fox News is the book definition of double standard.

The below was all for Obama, notice how every single things fit with Trump. The irony is insane.

 
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Shy

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A vile statement, from a disgusting piece of shit. That needs a talking to with a bag of door knobs.

Wonder how the moderates will try to blame Omar for this.
 

captmcblack

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Why even talk about anyone that isn't Tucker Carlson/Fox News as the enemy? Keep focused.

Anyway, there's gotta be some kind of regulation or something that can be done to stop extremely fucked up rhetoric like this. This stuff is a bridge too far.
 

Ogodei

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Woke Tucker Carlson didn't last long

He seems to be going in a genuine "white socialist" direction where he has lately been criticizing the GOP for its love of the plutocrats and their policies, but he's still the most virulently racist Fox anchor alongside Ingraham. But because of that first part, you'll occasionally see him say something cogent recently.