Truly the visionary that the Democratic party needs right now. Holding the government hostage in order to earn concessions from the other party is a cowardly way to govern.
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Tulsi Gabbard just both sided the shutdown
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She's technically right, but I'd actually respect the republicans if they caved. I'd lose any remaining respect I had for the dems if they did, though.
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What are the Dems saying they NEED to reopen the gov't? I only see one side making demands before they'll allow people to have their lives back.
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Shes certainly trying to ride the fence. I wouldnt be surprised if this run for president is just a way to boost her national profile in order to pick up some conservative gig elsewhere be it private or public.
The Dems are asking Trump to grow the fuck up and stop his temper tantrum. That's like asking Trump to exercise.
Everything the Democrats want: an open government
Everything Trump wants: steeped in racism
Does she think that pandering to the like 8 percent of Democrats that blame both sides is going to win her some primary votes?
o doubt bernie would run with her. he's tone-deaf, yes, but not shitty
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She could have blamed the shutdown on homosexual extremists.
Maybe if you've been paying absolutely no attention whatsoever to anything that's been going on
She is 100% wrong. There was already a negotiated deal in place that was supposed to pass before the Dems even took power. Trump threw a tantrum and blew it up, torching any possibility of good faith negotiations. If they buckle now he will just use this tactic again next time.
Supporting Sanders does not make one automatically progressive.
Gabbard was never progressive, she holds Conservative views on many issues.
She's only a Democrat because that's the only way to win in Hawaii
Gabbard was never progressive, she holds Conservative views on many issues.
She's only a Democrat because that's the only way to win in Hawaii
Anyone who both sides this should be shunned. She's just digging her hole deeper and it's probably time to just kick the dirt on top of her political career. No place for this shit if you're trying to progress the Democratic Party and still cant see how the GOP has the ability to bad faith argue at the drop of a MAGA hat.
Nah. Standard Stationary Carpetbagger. Already in town, but just watching which way the wind blows and adjusting her pitch on the fly. Sees no path to get all the dem support, so trying to grab some of the shy Trump supporters and regretful dullards. Possibly not even trying for the presidency but just increased relevancy for TV, her State position and endless trash.
I wasn't seriously suggesting a Sander/Gabbard ticket btw, just trying to create the political equivalent of a Pineapple and Natto pizza with extra Hakarl baked right into the crust.
But that would be getting into lizard shapeshifter territory, which is a pretty hard place to reach, lol.
My point still stands!
If the government wasn't shutdown she would have a point about across the aisle talks of immigration reform. You can't compromise with someone holding the government hostage. It wouldn't matter if all Trump wanted was a ham sandwich. Wrong is wrong.
I'm not one to underestimate the dems ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but there is really no pressure on them and they know it.
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Depends if the public thinks Trump is negotiating in good faith. That's all it will take for the pressure to switch to the Democrats. So far that doesnt seem to be happening.
It would take Nancy to cave. That won't happen. The House has already passed legislation to reopen the government. Nancy isn't going to let a bill giving Trump his wall have a vote unless there are extraordinary concessions (permanent DACA, UHC, etc). Trump & Co would get eaten alive by their base if they traded the things that could actually get a deal from the Dems. He painted himself into a corner and they know it.
