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Turkish economy is collapsing AMA
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As far as Turkey has fallen, they're strategically important. And suspending them from NATO opens them up for Russia to swoop in.
Suspending a NATO member is not something that should be taken that lightly.
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NATO membership is a strategic military alliance, not a federal relationship like the EU. There is no chance of any of that happening, specifically because of the weapons present there- they're not going to be "removed" if NATO stuff is withdrawn, they'll end up remaining in Turkey.
Makes sense, though what do you think would happen if Turkey becomes a failed state? It seems iffy that Germany primarily would support yet another bailout, particularly if the dictatorship wants to maintain the iron fist.
Exactly. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but at this point the first question I always ask myself is "What do Russia/Putin want?"
Hahaha. On Turkey's treatment of the Kurdish people :
" Of 40,386 formally charged, the death penalty was sought for 900. Of 70,000 current political detainees, more than 20,000 are reportedly Kurdish, and 90 percent of these are reputed to have been peaceful protestors for Kurdish cultural rights. To date, arrests in Kurdish provinces have totalled 81,634. Of these, 378 have allegedly been tortured to death, and 374 have been killed in night-time attacks."
Yeah, especially considering the invaluable help by Kurdish fighters in pushing back ISIS, including female frontline commandos, I'd support PKK independent led Kurdish independence from Turkey's insane government.
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It's okay, they have their Allah and it's the West's fault anyway. They see the big picture and they'll disrupt this game so there's nothing to worry about.
Edit: If there will ever be an independent Kurdistan it won't be thanks to the PKK.
They bomb civilians.
Using ISIS to make them open a second front and distract them is pretty devious, perhaps also a little too convenient.
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Have any of you tonedeaf idiots stopped to think that in the receiving end of a PKK bomb there could easily be college students conscripted for their compulsory military service who they may be very much against their own government, but like, that doesn't really matter because a bomb is a bomb?
Just, please, if you have no fucking real world experience with an issue affecting so many people so closely maybe give it some thinking before you outright express your support for a terrorist group, no matter how much the government may fucking suck.
Just, please, if you have no fucking real world experience with an issue affecting so many people so closely maybe give it some thinking before you outright express your support for a terrorist group, no matter how much the government may fucking suck.
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he is a dictator though. the executive is full of yay sayers. congress wont stop him. supreme court will be soon completely right wing. the us system has been shifting to presidential omnipotence for years and the checks and balances depend on a lot of conventions which trump ignores completely
He send his most loyal followers to the streets full of millitary armed soldiers while he was sitting on a plane and talking to his citizens via Skype. Many of them died.
He isn't. Erdogan can appoint and dismiss justices and cabinet members at will and rule by decree.
The US president is far too powerful but Trump isn't a dictator.
Would love to see him go after term
limits though. I'm sure that would be popular.
Yep the Lira has absolutely tanked, it's about £1 = 8 lira at the moment, an all time high.
My friend has a villa in Silivri (pretty close to Istanbul) . Lovely place which we visited in 2015, but nobody's been there since after what's been happening with Erdoğan and Turkey pretty much turning into a shit hole.
I kinda wish things would turn out OK, but I'm not exactly holding my breath.
Thanks. I checked the rate but did not realise 1:8 was an all time high. Was expecting the worst due to the state of the pound right now
Wait, so a military target is not legitimate in a war? By this logic we should have stopped and thought about the young Nazi soldier going to college conscripted to fight for Hitler instead of attacking them. I know the PKK also targets civilians and is a terrorist organizatiob but military is a legit target.
Holy fucking shit...
I had bothered writing a post highlighting the differences, but you know what, I give up. The lack of humanity some can show from the comfort of their homes on the Internet is a given, but glorification of domestic terrorism against people like you or me not participating in any war? I'm done. I give up.
Lol what is this narcissistic obsession with trying to make everything about the US.
This is a thread about the economy of Turkey, it's not a thread about the PKK. Please get back on topic.
Yea, but I meant if there was anyone on this board living there if they noticed if people were still going to work still shopping etc just how things looked from looking around
Hahaha yeah man, i cannot imagine why an american-hosted forum specialised in american culture with american members would see things from an american point of view and wonder why it's their problem.
Yeah let's try to rationalize being incapable of seeing literally anything from a non-US-centric point of view.
Is this a forum specialized in American culture?
Honest question from EuroERA.
Also, what is the demographic of ERA like?
I simply saying that it's impossible to expect everyone to care- /be fully informed about an event happening on the other side of the world, especially so if they're not belonging to the target demographic.
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Just putting it out there that if someone actually wants to learn what's going on, I'm more than willing to give an explanation.
Folks should just be able to accept they don't know something and ask questions to learn. It's a concession that every non-American on this forum is able to make in threads on American politics and society.
Like Bill Clinton said, it's the economy stupid... unless it's a pure dictatorship like Saddam or Kim Jung *, any quasi dictator will slowly come down once economy starts to get hit and people start to care more about their day to day life than their dear leader.
Honestly i am more curious at what number its going to stabilize.
