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Turkish strikes on Kurdish areas in Syria have already begun.
- Thread starter Saya
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Yes.
The point is, this would be a fantastic time to test the strength of the Alliance.
I wouldn't count on it. Bush started a war with falsified evidence and nothing happened to him.
So fucking sad and angry about Rojava. They're tremendous fighters but I don't know how long they can last without heavy equipment support. I hope they get a miracle.
Lol, yeah about that. Will probably never happen for any president of the US.
Oh I know, we literally made it illegal to do and basically would start a war over it. But still, I wish it would happen.
How many details abt the. Khashoggi incident did Turkey agree to suppress for Trump in order to get this leeway?
Sure, I have some other presidents in mind who could also come
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This is gaslighting. Erdogan told Trump he was going to do this on Sunday before Trump made his announcement.
this will be a genocide, the civilians are getting on arms to defend themselves, they will be killed and labeled terrorists by turkey.
Long story short: Turkey repressed its Kurdish population into terrorism/violent separatism, so a terrorist faction called the PKK has been fighting in southeastern Turkey for Kurdish autonomy for several decades now.
The YPG is a Kurdish faction in northern Syria that fights against ISIS, and according to Erdoğan (or Turkey in general, really), it and the PKK are one and the same, so Erdoğan is invading on the pretext that Turkey is eradicating PKK-related soldiers in northern Syria for its own security and integrity.
Erdoğan also wants to settle some 2 million Syrian refugees in the area, but that's relatively sensible (Turkey doesn't have the infrastructure or economy to support the 3 million odd refugees it has right now, and racist tensions are high). (Of course it'd probably constitute ethnic cleansing anyhow but yeah.)
Also, i might be biased because I grew up in Turkey and am most familiar with that viewpoint.
the kurds joined the US because the US military prevented cities like Kobane from falling to ISIS
People said the US would betray the Kurds when the alliance started, everybody expects a US betrayal but the Kurds didn't have much of a choice but to join forces with the US.
Also the refugee settlement in the Afrin area was done by pushing the resident population out of their homes to make room for the refugees who are obviously not from the area. There's a high chance they'll do the same in the rest of the Kurdish territory, drive out the natives and replace them with refugees.
Literally putting out this statement WHILE Kurdish forces are urgently requesting support and reporting civilians killed, AND after he'd expressly refused support to them/
Today has confirmed that the depths of hatred I feel for this dude and the entire Republican party has no limits. Absolute bastards
No need to repeat what the biased Turkish media says, just say what exactly it is. Erdogan only want this "war" to create this "safe zone" for himself and his concrete buddies to urbanize the shit out of northern crescent. Everything have already been set in stone, from how many houses and other projects to be made to who will make them. Concrete Lord wants concrete to rule Syria.
Were barely brown. Kurds without sun get white as hell. We look Mediterranean if anything, same with most turk and Syrians
SDF and the Coalition have halted anti-ISIS operations simply because the SDF has to focus entirely on fighting the Turkish invasion
It's amazing how flexible racism can be when the powers that be need scapegoats. The Irish are an excellent example of a people who were once considered a separate "race" until it was politically convenient to make them white.
They will bomb shit to dust, they will kill 1000s if not 100'000s
Based on history, what could possibly go wrong here? Lol, just kidding, we're making more enemies that used to be allies and know how to fight us.
Yup. People in that region are pretty light skinned.
Sami Zayn of WWE is Syrian and at first glance is a white red head.
Making enemies is the least of my worries right now.
Our allies and innocent Kurds are being bombed to death as we speak. Trump left them to die on purpose. It is fucking sickening.
Operation Peace Spring sounds exactly like the sort of name we'll be hearing in a war crime tribunal a few decades from now.
Aligning with Russia and beginning an offensive against Turkey may be our best hope. It took forever to fight to the point we could achieve a ceasefire with Turkey..
Only for Erdogan to break that ceasefire in an attempt to drum up support..
Turkey is, has always been, a genocidal state. Greeks, kurds, and other minorities have suffered under the Turkish philosophy of whitewashing minority existence.
Only for Erdogan to break that ceasefire in an attempt to drum up support..
Turkey is, has always been, a genocidal state. Greeks, kurds, and other minorities have suffered under the Turkish philosophy of whitewashing minority existence.
Yet the official Turkish line, including the stealth Erdogan supporters (and faux Turkish liberals) on this forum, say they are one of the same. Hypocrites.
Erdogan is a fascist dictator and we're letting him commit genocide. Guess that tower in Istanbul is worth it
That's the only argument you can hear in Turkey (or discuss without being labeled a traitor or terrorist sympathizer), so I'm not surprised.
