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Turkish strikes on Kurdish areas in Syria have already begun.
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The latter. At no point during the war has Turkey truly opposed ISIS, the only time Turkey attacked them was when the YPG and SDF was advancing in the area in an attempt to link up with other YPG fighters. A successful ISIS breakout from any prison would be great for Turkey as it would divert thousands of SDF soldiers away from the front.
Experts are pretty much on the same page when it comes to this
German kurdologist Eva Sabelsberg said last year that there is practically no difference between YPG and PKK
Elation, excitement and pride (at least in the media) for the "heroic Turkish forces".
Kurds have basically no cultural/media presence in Turkey except for in relation to the PKK, so there's no nuance about it or anything. Coverage of Trump I've seen was mostly relegated to indignation about the "I'll destroy your economy" tweet from Trump (that Trump publicly threatened to ruin the economy of a NATO member and it not being the scandal of the week tells you all you need to know).
This fucking cunt. If anything happens we need to make the united states pay for it.
Terrorists are already fleeing.
This will backfire in a colossal way... This is terrible. Not only ISIS Will be back bit nothing will prevent the YPG to radicalize and become something like the PKK.
At the bare minimum Trump and his entire administration need to be tried and jailed for crimes against humanity.
Fucking over two of your allies at the same time while causing what will probably be thousands of deaths for one of them is really some stable genius.
They do this every day with their own people. What makes you think they would care about foreigners?
Lol, you probably shouldn't post interviews of known Erdogan shills who run sites like kurdwatch.
Nah they need to feel consequences to make sure something like this won't happen again. Sanction them into oblivion if there is a terrorist attack because of this.
If those are supposed to be our friends might aswell go with China.
Divided.
Right wing is always happy when Turkish army shooting people.
Left wing is furious over this "safe zone" bullshit, and people is getting more angry after seeing Syrian refugees in comfort in their own countries. "Our boys are dying in a foreign country for these fucks and they're chilling at hookah bars!" is the exact menatlity of leftist/modernist part of Turkey.
Left opposition CHP is trying to expose AKP and this safe zone as bullshit by passing a law that will initiate the deportation of refugees to this "safe zone" after it's declared but it will most likely be shot down by Erdogan's party, AKP.
I'm no expert. What I got from the guardian piece was:
- Many SDF members were members of the YPG.
- The YPG was an offshoot of the PKK.
- The PKK has been an insurgent force in Turkey for decades.
- Turkey wants to push all SDF out of a section of Syria and then offload all their Syrian refugees there, serving their purposes for breaking up Kurdish majority along the Turkish border and not having to deal with refugees anymore. It seems like Turkey considers all SDF their enemy, regardless of whether individuals were part of YPG or PKK.
Again, if you go back to the very start with Chris Steele about Trump being groomed to be a Russian asset, all of whats happening achieves the goal of destroying the US from within, which is exactly what Putin wanted.
Doesnt even matter if its true, its whats happening.
dude this is PKK, a Marxist/Leninist revolutionary armed group labelled as a terrorist organisation by US/EU/UN who is fighting the Turkish government for the past 30 years.
and this is YPG these poor humanitarian freedom fighters who beat ISIS
They are one and the same and even state department acknowledged that.
This is the Nero phase as the realization that he can't keep his crimes in an NSA server hidden forever. Underlings will talk, and pols will not defend him the way he believes they should.
This is what happens when terrorist Republicans have power. How's that accelerationism working out for you Ms. Sarandon?
This is what happens when terrorist Republicans have power. How's that accelerationism working out for you Ms. Sarandon?
So? Kurds have every fucking right to fight for independence.dude this is PKK, a Marxist/Leninist revolutionary armed group labelled as a terrorist organisation by US/EU/UN who is fighting the Turkish government for the past 30 years.
and this is YPG these poor humanitarian freedom fighters who beat ISIS
They are one and the same and even state department acknowledged that.
Not if they kill them all. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the plan.
At least nero wasn't potentially controlled by an outside dictator.
This is grave.
Now just imagine for one second if Obama said this....... >.> God I hate this country
dude this is PKK, a Marxist/Leninist revolutionary armed group labelled as a terrorist organisation by US/EU/UN who is fighting the Turkish government for the past 30 years.
and this is YPG these poor humanitarian freedom fighters who beat ISIS
They are one and the same and even state department acknowledged that.
So, your point is? Kill them all? Fuck that.
kill who??? Kurds are not this monolithic entity. 12-15 millions of Kurds are already living in Turkey, Istanbul has more Kurds living in it than any other city in the world. Turkey doesn't need to cross in to Syria for a genocide. Kill YPG aka Syrian branch of PKK who is actively at war with the Turkish government??yeah that's the intention here.
So has Turkey. Also as far as I know PKK mostly targets military and police, civilians should be left alone of course.