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Turn-based RPG's where you move characters around in battle?
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Most Compile Heart RPGs do this, such as Fairy Fencer, Death End Request, or Dragon Star Varnir. Dragon Star is especially interesting in terms of this because characters can fly so positioning doesn't just matter on a flat grid but rather verticality matters as well.
What are the first and third games in this post?
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Kind of like an SRPG-lite, but you actually move the characters around when in battle, rather than selecting where the character should move?
I find this kind of battle system to be immensely satisfying for some reason.
Arc the lad twilight of the spirits. My personal favorite arc the lad really love that game
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I'm one of the 2 people on Earth that actually likes Tears of Blood
Does Grandia really count for this? It's been a while (like, since I was a kid) so I could be wrong, but don't characters move automatically in battle depending on which actions you choose (like that's what I remember anyway, and the pathfinding being really weird at times and screwing me over when I thought I could reach but the AI taking some weird movement instead)? That doesn't really sound like what the OP's talking about. Like yeah, characters nonetheless do move on the battlefield and positioning is definitely important (because if an enemy is too far away your character will move as far as they can but then just not do anything), but you don't have direct control over that, so that's a huge ehhhhhhh to me.
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Yep, and it's quite good. Would love a sequel, or at least another franchise attempted with the same mechanics.Dragon ball fusions has a system like that
EDIT: Nvm, OP wants direct control of movement, so this doesn't count. In which case...
Summon Night 6 does this. You're still travelling around SRPG square grids, but you move and control your character in those squares like what you've mentioned. The abysmal Natural Doctrine functions the same way.
I would have liked the new Fire Emblem to control like that actually. It just feels nice.
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Grandia.
It's one of the options from the battle menu along with attack, defend, item, etc. It's best used when an enemy is charging a area of effect attack so you can choose to scatter your party preventing them all from getting hit. For standard melee attacks, characters run up to the enemy to perform it and stay where they ran to as opposed to returning to their original place.
A good example is the boss on the haunted ship near the beginning of the game. It has a move where it inhales, sucking all your party members into an area in front of it. It's follow up attack is a powerful AOE so the sensible option is to use a turn to run away instead of attacking. It's this fight that seems to drive home the nuances of the battle system and teach the player they can't just spam attack to win every fight.
It's one of the options from the battle menu along with attack, defend, item, etc. It's best used when an enemy is charging a area of effect attack so you can choose to scatter your party preventing them all from getting hit. For standard melee attacks, characters run up to the enemy to perform it and stay where they ran to as opposed to returning to their original place.
A good example is the boss on the haunted ship near the beginning of the game. It has a move where it inhales, sucking all your party members into an area in front of it. It's follow up attack is a powerful AOE so the sensible option is to use a turn to run away instead of attacking. It's this fight that seems to drive home the nuances of the battle system and teach the player they can't just spam attack to win every fight.
Probably mean Valkyrie Profile 2? It mattered how you moved and where you attacked from in that game
Nice Arc the Lad TotS call out OP. I love its battle system, a beautiful fusion of turn based and strategy. What really makes it click for me is that different characters have different attack ranges and widths, and these can be further tweaked by weapon attachments. Super satisfying finding ways to smack multiple enemies at once. Also, TotS has one of the best narratives in a PS2 jrpg. Sadly underrated and forgotten game.
I am no longer surprised people considered my opinion that ATB is not turn based, but cooldown based controversial. When people think even xenoblade is turn based, of course idea that ATB doesn't have turns, just cooldowns would sound like absolute heresy.
Do you want that movement count into the action points or not ? Because they are games for both systems.
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Kind of like an SRPG-lite, but you actually move the characters around when in battle, rather than selecting where the character should move?
I find this kind of battle system to be immensely satisfying for some reason.
Are you not going to name the games you posted pictures of?
Edit: I see them now
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Oh shit! I played this on PS2 as a teenager. Must have had some vague recollection of the game. I remember thinking it was a blast when I played it, not sure why I stopped.
Oh man that was an awful awful game. The story was so cliche I literally can't remember it despite beating it.
Anyway, Trails series
Lunar 1/2 also had positioning and movement be an important part of their turn based battles
Been a while since I played an ATB game, didn't they have settings to let you switch between "active" active-time battle and "waiting" where you still could take your time?
Wait system would pause everything while you are scrolling through options, while active would mean even menuing had to be done real time, with enemy atb gauges ticking
You can also move your characters, there is an option for it. It may only be in Grandia 2 though, that's the only one I've played so if you are thinking of the first one that may be the source of confusion.
