I thought the embargo was lifted on the 11th? Ah well. The SP looks to be similar to C1 so I'm pumped. The whole destruction thing doesnt interest me but does look fun.
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Yeah you had the same problem I did when I first started. I had free time so I literally played the test from opening to end, it took my a while to figure out how to USE the destruction instead of just blowing things up for the sake of it. There's definitely strategic advantages you get from knowing where to shoot a hole in the wall while carefully dashing through it to not hit a corner of it and fall to the ground and I'm sure your aware that the ground means your just going to die lol. The game only get as fun as the players your fighting, so if everyone's on the ground like I've seen some teams do then you'll just get murdered by us, the better player, because where 5 stories above you shooting rockets at you and finishing it off with a few shots from a pistol, then grab the tags, RB boost up to highest point and rinse and repeat. If you had any of those type of matches then yeah, you just need to get a little better at using the explosiveness of the game a little more, an example being this clip. Wish I could've gotten more but my dvr was fucked. https://1drv.ms/v/s!Ah1NjisBAu-rmhKMDSYq_ER-u92y also if anyone can tell me how to make gifs an all that with a thumbnail on an iPhone that'd be great, thanks lol. Longevity could be problem tbh, but if they have a good progression system with the millions of guns already in the game then I can see it at least being enhancing in that aspect. Like please for the love of god the black hole gun NEEDS to be in multiplayer.
People have already said this, but I will reiterate. The game is not so much about reflex shooting, but rather movement, line of sight, positioning, etc. Aiming through normal means in this game would be ridiculous as people zip all over the place, change direction rapidly, and engagement distances can be pretty far so characters are relatively tiny on the screen. Plus, people know if you are locked onto them so it is not like you are just holding L and then pressing R. If someone knows you are locked onto them they will try to move to increase distance (braking lock on) or seek cover behind buildings.
I have one "after" here, but another building went down before the end, was a long game, everyone shooting at buildings to collapse them :D
I see, I never played the original and only heard of it, I just know there's a big emphasis on destruction, I guess I have to play it myself but usually lock on mechanics are a big turn off for me.
An important thing to remember about this game is that it's not a shooter. It's an action platformer.
If you go in expecting a third person shooter experience you're not going to enjoy it.
The game revolves around the movement mechanics. It's all about positioning, managing your boost/jumps, breaking lines of sight etc.
It's an Aerial Game of hide and seek with quad launchers and other high big boom armaments.
Team work wins. The lone wolves become pack fodder.
The better man is the smarter player, who at the drop of the dime, with all the myriad control options avaiable, chooses not only the right one, but employs it at just the right moment.
I can tell the people commenting who haven't played it, or haven't got a handle on the control scheme, because it is far from boring or shallow. One poster gave footage of his play and he didn't use the dash or the supers, which puts the game on haitus and makes you easy to die.
Comming from many hours of the first two crackdowns, combined with familiarity of ReCores's jump dash and Sunset Overdrive's whirly bird nature - I was soon at home, flying around - and comming down like a hawk to snatch ya badges.
And Now that i think about it -i realize that escaping death is better that dealing it.
Team work wins. The lone wolves become pack fodder.
The better man is the smarter player, who at the drop of the dime, with all the myriad control options avaiable, chooses not only the right one, but employs it at just the right moment.
I can tell the people commenting who haven't played it, or haven't got a handle on the control scheme, because it is far from boring or shallow. One poster gave footage of his play and he didn't use the dash or the supers, which puts the game on haitus and makes you easy to die.
Comming from many hours of the first two crackdowns, combined with familiarity of ReCores's jump dash and Sunset Overdrive's whirly bird nature - I was soon at home, flying around - and comming down like a hawk to snatch ya badges.
And Now that i think about it -i realize that escaping death is better that dealing it.
So even with the lock-on, newbs aren't using the mobility. If that's already the case, why not give the option for no lock-on matchmaking? Once upon a time, there was a game called Tribes. It was similar to Crackdown in that players had tons of mobility and most engagements occurred at medium or long range. Tribes didn't have any lock-on and it worked great! One of my favorite games, actually.
I understand that gamepads suck at vertical aiming (or aiming in general) which is why this should just be an option. On PC, players can aim pretty easily.
You played CD3?
I don't see how it will work without Lock on.
I mean, yeah you might get a kill here and there. But thats not the point of the game.
I wouldn't play it if the lock on was removed. It works and it's fun. Not every game needs to be an ultra competitive try hard game.
You bring this up but I would say the main point that differs between tribes and crackdown is verticality. There is certainly some verticality in tribes but I don't think it is to the same degree as crackdown. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't tribes mostly rolling hills whereas crackdown is mostly city like environments with multilevel led buildings? That is why I would say, at least on console for sure, the lockon is necessary. Even if you remove lockon on pc I think that changes the meta of the game quite a bit, whether that is for better or worse I cannot say on that platform.
Tribes with a controller is pretty rough to be fair, at least against PC players, but I don't think it's so different. Tribes mobility is also very vertical at times. That's the difficulty, landing aerial shots in tribes is hard.
And I have no issue with bullet magnetism, and such. It's just explicit lock-on. If it's too hard to remain fun, then assist the player, don't make it feel like you're taking control away from them.
Good god, that's insane.
I am getting pretty hyped about this game in the past few days.
Interesting! Reminds me of the guardian fights in BOTW, I love the intensity when you have several lock-ons on you.
Same for me, also don't like the the general world-design.
Destroying buildings sounds neat, but those empty, thin structures aren't even proper buildings.
No furniture, no doors, just empty shells.
BUT i want to try it though, it's certainly unique and maybe I'll like it in the end.
This, when I see people say lockdown shouldn't be necessary it's 9 times out of 10 because they played matches like Ryan McCaffrey being 90% on the ground like it's call of duty instead of having air battles seeing who can out strafe and out Maneuver Who first. Auto lock makes it so when you DO have those type of battles your not boosting in circles in mid air like where'd he go which STILL happens anyway. Noobs man I tell ya, they're the worst lol.
If that rumored cheaper all digital Xbox comes out this will be the first games pass game (along with FH4) I download
I think some sort of time based destruction mode would be cool for multiplayer.
Like how fast can your team level the entire map.
I think unfortunately hunting and killing are never going to stray from the realm of primary multiplayer modes
What you're suggesting sounds great but it would never be a flagship mode
Did you play any Rainbow Six Siege? It's pretty much what you're describing, including the destructability
Except it isn't. You can tear off any part of that building or any other building. It's completely physics based.
My point isn't that the destruction in CD3 is shit. It's that for me it was really underwhelming after six years of hyping it up. Red Faction-ish destruction online isn't really hot shit for me in 2019, no matter how "impressive" the tech running it is (apparently syncronizing ok destruction is impressive). It feels unnecessary and tacked on. I'll play the SP and probably like it a lot, this MP was mediocre at best for me.
This makes no sense to me or anyone else who has played the game.
Here's me bringing down two buildings without using lock on.
Thats fucking nuts! I dont care how many times you see a building topple over in this game, it takes your breath away - like, Hooolyyyy!
You can preload Campaign but I don't believe Wrecking Zone can be preloaded yet.
Tribes 1 has more verticality than any other shooter ever made. You can literally launch yourself so high that you can't even see the ground anymore.
But yes, lock-on should be an option regardless of control scheme. It's definitely more important for gamepads than MKB but I think playing on MKB without lock-on would be a deeper and more rewarding experience. Not only would you need to master movement but aiming as well, something that 90's shooters like Quake and Tribes were all about.
This looks fun. I can totally see how the destruction can be used for strategic play.
Wow.. This is something else altogether!
Can folks who played the test elaborate a bit about the 'super' ability that seems to be ready (LB+RB) in this gif? Is there a single super for all agents or do they get different?
It's called Overdrive, it gives a temporary boost to specific skills. In the test there were two different flavours, one that gives a boost to Agility and Firearms, and another for Strength and Explosives. Once you fill up your Overdrive meter (by killing other players, destroying buildings or collecting Overdrive orbs), the game chooses one of the boosts at random, which you can then activate at will.
Thanks. So the super your character is assigned changes with every round and is random? That's seems like a weird design choice.
