I think that has more to do with people binge watching the one that they least likely watched when it was on air. It's the worst reviewed of the first 3 follow up series.
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Tuvok gives Neelix the heel wiggle......
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So they binge watched it, but then kept re-watching it despite not liking it?
Voyager isn't just the most watched it's also the most re-watched Trek on Netflix.
To say "Most people" didn't like Voyager is pretty clearly just not true. A show that most people don't like doesn't last for 7 series.
It got the worst ratings of the three shows in its final 2 years. It does the wave of success from the ratings for TNG and the critical acclaim of DS9 and kinda tarnished the brand by the end. And back then the syndication rights meant a lackluster show could stretch it out for 7 seasons.
An interesting concept ruined by bad writing seems to sum Voyager up well, even if there are gems in there. Also some of the characters never got interesting - Chakotay and Kim notably, especially the latter. The Maquis crew integrating perfectly into the rigidly structured Starfleet crew and all it's protocol after only two or three episodes was ridiculous. Seven of Nine being used as a sex object to entice viewers back in after massively falling numbers. Tuvix. Oh God, the Borg - even if they were following in First Contact's shoes, what they did to the Borg was ridiculous... talk about nerfing a dangerous enemy.
I can watch an episode of Voyager and enjoy it, but it's by far the weakest of the shows (Enterprise was beginning to find it's stride near the end in a way Voyager never would - also a show nearly killed by bad writing early on).
I can watch an episode of Voyager and enjoy it, but it's by far the weakest of the shows (Enterprise was beginning to find it's stride near the end in a way Voyager never would - also a show nearly killed by bad writing early on).
Voyager skipped several decades off their journey home at multiple points in the show, a timeframe calculated in the high warp speed the ship was capable of.
So how the fuck did a bunch of random Tailaxians with shitty ships end up all that way across the Quadrant, and then decide to settle down on a tiny asteroid in bumfuck nowhere? Did I miss a handwavey explanation?
So how the fuck did a bunch of random Tailaxians with shitty ships end up all that way across the Quadrant, and then decide to settle down on a tiny asteroid in bumfuck nowhere? Did I miss a handwavey explanation?
I used to love voyager as a kid and hate DS9 and now it's the other way around. Try as I might I struggle to care about any charge yet that isn't the Doctor or 7 of 9. Having damage that I did like that one Neelix episode where he does and he has a crises of faith.
Voyager almost always had to shoehorn a red alert space battle scene I to every episode too. TNG had whole episodes without anything but stock ship flybys.
To be fair TNG was in friendly space half the time whilst Voyager was in a region of "Who the hell are these arseholes? Let's rob the bastards"
I think the generally accepted explanation for this is that Voyager, and Starfleet ships in general (especially long range exploration ships like the Intrepid class) have facilities available to essentially 'flat pack' shuttlecraft to save on space. Just use Industrial Replicators in the Cargo Bay to churn out the components and put them together like an IKEA kit.
Which is also how it was so easy to put together the Delta Flyer.
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/23850/how-did-voyager-replace-its-photon-torpedoes
Early on, the reason was that they didn't have any of the raw materials to manufacture the casings. The writers did keep count for the first few seasons, but after a certain point I imagine the plots would have been hamstrung by the limitation of no more torpedoes.
So I imagine the semi-official explanation would be that they acquired more materials later on, despite it not being explicitly stated in any episodes.
I came in this thread specifically for this. If only it weren't a dream.
LOL it's lazy writing. They at least tried to be consistent with photon torpedos through 5 seasons until they just stopped giving a fuck.
I don't think they mentioned it. You could assume the Talaxian war which scattered all the survivors around the quadrant happened 3 decades ago, I guess. Or assume lazy continuity.
Sure, except the show was constantly harping on how they didn't have the supplies or energy to run replicators. It's not that the viewers don't realize things get replicated, it's that the show contradicts itself.
I love Voyager. it's righ above TNG. Then again, I'm not the type to nitpick every piece of media I ingest. I'm along for the ride and enjoy it moment-to-moment.
And, fuck you, Kim was awesome.
And, fuck you, Kim was awesome.
Janeway was such a great character.
"DELETE THE HUSBAND"
Nelix got what he deserved. Dude was raising that weird four year old adult space chick to be a total idiot. Dude never saw a disgusting slime he didn't want to make into an appetizer and frequently poisoned crew members with his disgusting goop.
My man. A true connoisseur of self contained sci-fi episodes. Exhausted listening to people tell me that DS9 is the best as long as you watch 1200 episodes in order. Voyager > NextGen > OG Star Trek > that's all there is peace.
Catching Voyager reruns late at night is like a fly trap for my attention. I still haven't seen 'em all either.
He got a happy relationship with a hot female of his own species and a ready-made family to help him deal with the PTSD from seeing his species nearly exterminated.
Your statement sounds like you think he got chopped up by the bodysnatchers in the Delta quadrant.
this might be the most disgusting thing i've ever read on this forum
This is like complaining about having to read a novel from front to back to appreciate it, and how it sucks when you read randomly selected chapters with no order.
Her struggling with being half Klingon were some of the most interesting episodes. Not to mention she was the only member who didn't fall in line which was more realistic seeing as how the two crews were philosophy opposed to one another.
no it's like complaining that you only have an hour to read on a short train ride and people insist on giving you War and Peace.
it has little bearing on quality and everything to do with a convenience confection!
Love voyager, and am just doing a series rewatch.
However, Neelix is definitely emotionally manipulative of Kes. She's also worried to the point of fear about what Neelix will think of everyone she interacts with.
The voyager crew should have helped Kes get free of his overbearing, manipulative, occasionally violent ass. Instead of going "Oh Neelix, you scamp"
However, Neelix is definitely emotionally manipulative of Kes. She's also worried to the point of fear about what Neelix will think of everyone she interacts with.
The voyager crew should have helped Kes get free of his overbearing, manipulative, occasionally violent ass. Instead of going "Oh Neelix, you scamp"
I liked Voyager to an extent, but better than TNG and DS9? And I thought we could be friends...
I recently rewatched Voyager, yeah I disliked Neelix as a character. He was just so whiny, self-pitying and annoying. Easily my least favourite Voyager character (after Chakotay, natch). Ethan Phillips is probably the only reason he's tolerable (I liked him from hs days on Benson). I thought having him suddenly find Talaxians just before they returned Earth was short changing him since he seemed like he wanted to get to Earth.
