For for the benefit of 7 series folks, the 8 is so much brighter in HDR without DTM, even with it enabled there are many times it's actually dimmer than off! I just don't understand why LG won't sort it, when 6 and 8 are perfectly fine, crazy.
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You're not making the wait for c9 prices to plummet easy on me lol
Ha, yeah waiting is the tough bit! Comes down to whether or not you want a C8 now, or in 1 year getting what is essentially the equivalent of a C8 with HDMI 2.1 for the same price.
What scenarios occur that make Dynamic Tone Mapping on the 8 series actually dim the screen? I thought it always just brightened up the image. Do you recommend leaving it off then personally?
It depends on the game and the mastering etc, with 1000 nit games it's a bit of a toss up, some parts brighter some not, but always brighter than 7 series, but get to 4K and 10K nit games, DTM really comes into its own.
I have the 65 inch NU8000 and I really like it.
I'm in the same boat re: waiting for PS5.
1080p content looks great, though you'll want to turn down the sharpening setting.
Surprisingly, I find Switch games end up faring better than PS4 games, possibly because they have less detail overall, and so experience less shimmering.
My favorite part of the TV is its excellent 1440p scaler. I have my PC hooked up to the TV, and even if my gpu can't handle 4K 60,
I'm finding that 1440 looks damn near identical.
Ok thanks for the info! So you think maybe leave it off for 1k nit games but leave it on for 4 and 10k? Sorry for the dumb question but Is there a way to tell what nits a game is mastered at? Somewhere in the settings does it tell you or do you just search the web per game?
So I haven't really said much regarding the C8 vs C7, the game mode from a ps4pro seems brighter or have a bit more pop. I can't really make an apples to apples comparison.
Shit how do you do that?
NM I figured it out..
Shit how do you do that?
NM I figured it out..
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Personally, I say stay there for now. I rolled back my firmware to 4.10.15 after updating to .31 and really disliking it. Not updating until they fix the black crush, it was really bad on my set. Vincent for hdtvtest says that lg is working on a fix but the recent updates haven't focused on the gamma yet. Hopefully a fix isn't too far out but who knows.
Are we expecting the h8f and h9f Hisense sets to be the new best in the sub 1k price range? They both sound pretty impressive on paper. Looking for a $500~ real HDR set. Almost went with the TCL 6 and the Vizio P that was on sale around there. Is the h8f supposed to be better than these?
I have a ks8000 in the living room. Looking for a basement TV where I can play my 1x and PS4 pro games and not feel like I'm missing out on anything by playing in the basement.
I have a ks8000 in the living room. Looking for a basement TV where I can play my 1x and PS4 pro games and not feel like I'm missing out on anything by playing in the basement.
Looks like the Hisense H9F may be a strong competitor for the TCL 6-Series if reviews like this are anything to go by
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/hisense-h9f-series-4k-uhd-android-smart-tv,review-6456.html
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/hisense-h9f-series-4k-uhd-android-smart-tv,review-6456.html
There are a few reviews for the H8F (and some Youtube reviews) while only one review provides measurements: https://hdguru.com/review-hisense-55h8f-elevates-4k-hdr-at-a-value/
No direct comparisons with the TCL 6 Series, but it gives you an idea. I am either looking at the Hisense 50" H8F or the Vizio 43"/50" 2019 M-Series. Looking like it's going to be the 50H8F but still not sure.
Ready Player One is such an awesome HDR showcase. Looks incredible on my C8.
Even if the movie itself is not great, the visuals makes it worth watching.
Even if the movie itself is not great, the visuals makes it worth watching.
At least they didn't tell the guy he should also paint his walls with that (ridiculously expensive) Munsell professional grade neutral gray paint (he totally should!). Fair enough though. Sometimes people like that can be overbearing. I do think at least a portion of them are genuinely trying to be helpful.
For example, when enthusiasts say you shouldn't use another person's settings on your own set, there's more to it than it not being as accurate as a proper calibration. It can actually make the picture worse. In the case of the newer LG OLEDs, brightness (aka black level) could be set anywhere from 48 to 63 on a calibrated set. If you use 63 on a set the should be lower, then you risk losing perfect black, washing out details, and reducing contrast; 48 on a 63 set will crush black and throw off your gamma. And this is just the brightness setting. Copying all of the settings over is incredibly tedious and time consuming (especially if you're doing multiple modes and presets), yet the end result of all that work is likely to be a worse picture. In fact, just using one of the out of the box presets like ISF or Technicolor should be more accurate, look better, and take almost no time at all.
In this example, the enthusiast advice would save someone a lot of time and frustration. Granted, other comments like the bias light one might be a bit less so and occasionally people can get a bit snooty, but it's more often just people trying to be helpful. Some could certainly benefit from having better delivery though.
Concerning critical viewing, nerds like analyzing things as a part of their hobbies. Remember criticism isn't just about finding flaws, but also about appreciating the good components of something and gaining a better understanding of how it works. That can apply to the technology used to watch movies and TV or it can apply to the content itself. Indeed, the better the equipment and setup, the easier it is to notice and analyze different aspects of the content like cinematography, color timing/grading, production design, etc. As much as it might seem like a bunch of pretentious fart sniffers doing mental wankery, more often than not it's simply enthusiasts nerding out and lacking enough perspective to realize that not everyone gets into this stuff as much as they do. I wouldn't be too harsh on them.
The PQ isn't screwed at all. The problem in my experience is they didn't test Oreo very well and I've dealt with several annoying app bugs.
Got an e-mail from Zavvi this morning apologizing for the one yesterday saying I'd won Champions League tickets (everyone got one lol) along with a goodwill discount code for 15% off in stock items which I thought I'd share: 15GOGW
It's valid until the 17th May and it stacks with the 2 for £30 offer on UHDs as well...
It's valid until the 17th May and it stacks with the 2 for £30 offer on UHDs as well...
Probably worth leaving it on, no clear advantage or disadvantage for 1K from what I can see, whereas you'll just gain going higher, that way you won't need to worry about mastering.
Oh ok thanks! So the dimming you were talking about with dtm isn't that big of a deal? Or at least the benefits outweigh the negatives in your opinion?
The movie itself is not bad. I don't understand why it gets so much hate online.
I dunno I thought it was terrible. My gf and I watched it on my OLED and it when it ended we both sighed and went "ughhh, what a piece of shit" and then we talked about how awful it was for like 5 minutes.
I just looked this up on LG's support site, only says "Security Update".
I'm not an expert like some people here but for the research I did here in EU (where we don't have good TCL or the Vizio Quantum P TVs) the first step of actual good HDR is the XF900 at 900€... so no :( Maybe the NU8000/Q6 at 600/700 would do the trick but I keep reading mixed messages.
PQ is the same, but every month i've had to uninstall and reinstall youtube and crunchyroll cause they desync with the accounts.
Hmm yeah that lines up with my own research, I guess I'll still wait a few more years, I'm not in a rush aslong as my trust 2012 Samsung 32" TV still works :P
No, most of the time it's either slightly dimmer, or brighter.
BTW 8 people, there is a new engineering mode firmware update out, and it fixes black crush and flashing blocks, it's on a new firmware number too :)
05.10.00
Justice League vs The Fatal Five looked extra nice in almost every way in the 4K HDR version. Better color, eye-catching highlights on the effects, etc. Really liked it. Much better enhancement than some of the other DC animated movies have had.
Also had a lot of fun with the movie and its characters and fights. Really liked the Jessica Cruz newcomer Green Lantern thing since I didn't know her at all, really good lead for the movie, and especially Miss Martian was awesome too, probably my favorite from the movie, and having her kind of being mentored a bit by Batman was really fun. Their dynamic was great.
Also had a lot of fun with the movie and its characters and fights. Really liked the Jessica Cruz newcomer Green Lantern thing since I didn't know her at all, really good lead for the movie, and especially Miss Martian was awesome too, probably my favorite from the movie, and having her kind of being mentored a bit by Batman was really fun. Their dynamic was great.
Batman saying "Bring it, Skeletor!" was glorious, I couldn't stop laughing.
Yup, it looks insane. I've already watched it several extra times because of that lmao.
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Yea, I personally would't call what the NU8000 or Q6FN/Q70R (this is basically this years Q6FN) offers as good HDR, but its definitely a step a above those TVs that are really fake "HDR" like the Samsung 7 series or the Sony 800s. You will get a much brighter picture with those TVs, but to see a real HDR that you see people being blown away by, you have to go a step above them with something like and the Q8 or X900F.
You are better off saving a few hundred dollars more and going for the real thing, even if you have to wait a bit more.
Of course, those cheaper TVs are a good alternative if you need a TV right now and have no choice with your budget. Even those fake HDR TVs are decent at playing 4k content and basic stuff, so they all have their uses and their market.
Is this going to be the next regular update they release?
I see, thanks for clearing this up for me! :) Well I'll say I'll wait a few more years then like said, my current TV is still working and with how little I use TVs I can't justify paying more than 400€ for one even if I could afford it, it
was just a bit of a "new tech itch" since my mum got a new one :P Once "good HDR" reaches that price-point I'll bite!
Hey guys, I'm currently looking for a new TV since my current one is crapping out on me (this happens during very dark scenes, have disabled everything that should cause it to happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otIvHCuzX5U&feature=youtu.be ).
I want the LGC8, but it's just too much money for me to spend right now. Is the Sony XF9005 still a good buy or should I look at something newer? Can have the 65" for a much more reasonable price.
My main points I want are good blacks and no awful backlight bleeding. My current TV has big clouds all over the screen and I hate it. Looking for something in the 1200-1400€ price range.
I'm not the biggest fan of Android TV after having a pretty bad experience with it on my current TV. Apps are crashing, TV just straight up restarts every now and then if I'm on the latest firmware (running it with the factory firmware now to get around that).
I want the LGC8, but it's just too much money for me to spend right now. Is the Sony XF9005 still a good buy or should I look at something newer? Can have the 65" for a much more reasonable price.
My main points I want are good blacks and no awful backlight bleeding. My current TV has big clouds all over the screen and I hate it. Looking for something in the 1200-1400€ price range.
I'm not the biggest fan of Android TV after having a pretty bad experience with it on my current TV. Apps are crashing, TV just straight up restarts every now and then if I'm on the latest firmware (running it with the factory firmware now to get around that).
Ok. Finally pulled the trigger after a 12 years of keeping my old LG LCD tv! Went for a 55 inch Toshiba Fire TV edition, and i just can say im very happy about it! I just cant atm see any 4k content ( my consoles , chromecast are not 4k ), but for delivering great 1080p picture, its night and day compare to my old tv! I just hope its a reliable tv, that will last me a good 5-6 years at least. Crossing fingers!
Saw the 8K Q900R in person for the first time. Completely unimpressive, 8K won't be a thing until manufacturers flat out force it on people by downsizing their 4K product lines.
Fight me.
It's simply perfectly acceptable more often than not, but it has some really over the top moments, and many of the nostalgia bombs were doomed to fail for a large portion of the audience that likely saw it in the theaters. Many wouldn't have even been old enough to get them, or at best would have likely only seen the source material in passing since they were rooted in 80s pop culture. The ending fight was a mess though, and Endgame looked like it wanted really badly to emulate it.
The most I got out of it, other than it looking pretty good at times was the audio. It had a fantastic mix.
Nice, hope it doesn't break something new in the process. Kind of want to update, but I've left it at .15 for now, but since I've had it, it looked kind of washed out to me compared to the B6 and E6. The update after was supposed to have fixed that, but it's also what introduced the black crush.
A stupid 65" B8 deal for those looking:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13074202-65-lg-oled65b8pua-4k-hdr-oled-tv-1449-free-s-h?src=frontpage
$1449 with free shipping & no tax. Authorized dealer(buydig) through google express.
https://slickdeals.net/f/13074202-65-lg-oled65b8pua-4k-hdr-oled-tv-1449-free-s-h?src=frontpage
$1449 with free shipping & no tax. Authorized dealer(buydig) through google express.
If you want a decent budget option that will give you real HDR then probably the 75" 6 series from TCL.
I can't think of anything else under that price for that size that would be worth recommending unless you want to sacrifice a lot of picture quality.
Example: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/tcl-75...d-tv-with-hdr-roku-tv/6319339.p?skuId=6319339
Are there any reviews/impressions/previews of the new Sony and Panasonic OLEDs anywhere yet?
Wait there may be something better.
Probably 900 series from Sony. You can get a 75" new online for around that much.
For a low budget TV/Monitor hybrid, would this work? https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0...392-182d8c1e93fc&pf_rd_r=9NTXBTWBSRVBC9F9J3NX
I want something 4K for some stuff and I generally sit a little far away from my PC desk, with a wireless keyboard and a lapboard(weird setup, I know). I'll probably use something like display fusion to split it into multiple fake-monitors for work purposes.
My fear is that text would be unreadable or something of the sort, but is there a way to find out before buying it?
I want something 4K for some stuff and I generally sit a little far away from my PC desk, with a wireless keyboard and a lapboard(weird setup, I know). I'll probably use something like display fusion to split it into multiple fake-monitors for work purposes.
My fear is that text would be unreadable or something of the sort, but is there a way to find out before buying it?
I'm really pissed at LG here. They took my OLED TV to replace the screen thanks to the %25 window error. After a week I called them to ask about when the repair Will be finished and they said after 45 Days from now....
They said that the screen is coming from South Korea, but why take my TV from now if it's gonna take that long?
They said that the screen is coming from South Korea, but why take my TV from now if it's gonna take that long?