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KD49XF9005BU
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That's my country in Europe. The first one is the 49" the second the 55".
You are weirdly aggressive in your tone here.
Yeah people do have burn in, but did you read the guy's post. He himself said he played the same game an absurd amount.
He did it to himself. You play hundreds to thousands of hours of the same HUD, it's eventually going to wear pixels unevenly.
Everyone's been warned and knows the drill.
Are you trying to console war TV's?
It was addressed to him specifically. There is a history there with this.
The history being you stoke the fire every time then accuse others of being aggressive? Got it.
As someone else already posted, the guy abused his set, hence, burn-in. For someone who claims to not even game on the OLED he claims to own, you seem to think yourself an expert on gaming on an OLED, which seems odd.
Abuse. That's an interesting word. His use case wouldn't be abuse on an LCD. It's just content.
Could using subtitles be considered abuse?
In his defense the post he replied to was dismissive. It was a fair response. Now I see the two have history but still.
3 years of subtitles on mine so I guess it's fine.
That'd be far more than the 1000+ hours he put into his single game.
You act like if someone has abused the tv if it has burn in or is the fault of the owner. You have called people out for playing games for too long. This is abuse? I am not sure if you are paying attention this thread is in the gaming forum. As far a the seem to own comment, we aren't going there again are we? I posted a picture of it last year just to shut you up then. I bought 77 c8 less than a month ago as well. So stop it with this.
I don't think 8k is next gen. Hence why I'm comfortable going with a 55" Sony X900 series model. It's crazy how I always try to run away from Sony TVs but always keep coming back to them some how. Last 15 years I've owned two. Now this, haha. Thanks to chromatic9 and Kerotan advice. Thanks, fam!
These LCD LED's are very mature tech and should last very long. Just out of interest how much under budget is this TV and are you going for the 49" or 55"?
https://youtu.be/bi2YQKWL3PQ
In other news, Fox is now supporting Dolby Vision with the UHD BluRay disc release for Alita Battle Angel. DV, HDR10, and HDR10+ support.
In other news, Fox is now supporting Dolby Vision with the UHD BluRay disc release for Alita Battle Angel. DV, HDR10, and HDR10+ support.
I'd love to go for the 49" but the model isn't released here in Brazil. Time to go big and go for a 55" tv. It's around $972 dollars here in Brazil.
What are you blathering on about now? I haven't called anyone out - well, apart from you for your ridiculous statement which yet again inflamed the whole discussion. You stated that you shouldn't be gaming on an OLED right? Yet, by your own admission, you don't. Yet you manage to ignore the many people on this thread who do game on their OLED sets, and have no burn-in?
If you truly believed that gaming should be limited to LCD/LED sets, then you wouldn't be watching any 2.35:1 material on your OLED as the amount of wear you would aggregate with normal levels of gaming, will be matched by your viewing of letterboxed movies.
I'll say again, and I don't think I can be any clearer on this - you will be fine gaming on an OLED if you are going to be playing any one game for 100 hours before moving on to another - if you are going to be putting 1000s of hours into the same title, I would *not* recommend an OLED for this kind of gaming activity. This is not controversial, this is based on both my own experience, and the experience of others who have similar gaming patterns i.e. not you.
I've never seen it fluctuate. Are you sure your issues aren't with VRR being on? Apparently the new update from 5/20 fixes the VRR lag choppiness.
A bigger issue than burn in on OLEDs is the horrendous and outdated remotes that manufacturers still ship with their TV sets.
LG's one is horrendous with those low quality plastics, even if it has some useful features. It's unnaceptable to ship something like that with expensive sets.
Panasonic's is so outdated looking it hurts.
Sony's used to have a nice soft touch feeling on their lower ends but seems to have downgraded it. Thankfully, they upgraded it on their higher end TVs now.
Samsung is the one to have something interesting with the One Remote. Don't know about that build quality, but at least they put some effort to it and it looks cool.
LG's one is horrendous with those low quality plastics, even if it has some useful features. It's unnaceptable to ship something like that with expensive sets.
Panasonic's is so outdated looking it hurts.
Sony's used to have a nice soft touch feeling on their lower ends but seems to have downgraded it. Thankfully, they upgraded it on their higher end TVs now.
Samsung is the one to have something interesting with the One Remote. Don't know about that build quality, but at least they put some effort to it and it looks cool.
The manufacturers AND reviewers specifically advise against it. So yes it would be considered in the category of "abuse" or at the very least negligence.
LG had premium remotes. With the 2016 sets. And the 2017 sets. They discarded this unfortunately with the newer sets mainly 2018 and 2019. The only OLED by LG which has a premium remote now is the OLED R.
Oh, didn't know about that. Can you post a picture of it?
Sure.
https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/review-lg-signature-g6-oled-tv-review-4k-hdr-tv-beat
The first picture, on the 2nd page. The G series had gold. The E series had silver. And two remotes. A huge one and a small one. Very sad LG canned the whole idea.
I've contacted a retailer and they told me this is the better/newer option: SONY KD-49XG9005
Que?
They're trying to upsell.
You'll be fine with the XF model. It is identical.
I just pulled the trigger on a 55" Sony x950g. Dell has it for $1298 with a $350 gift card. Wife needs a new laptop so it works out.
I'm coming from a 2010 Panasonic plasma. Pretty excited. The smart platform alone sounds great.
Anyone own this? Anything I should know before I get it? Key settings?
I'm coming from a 2010 Panasonic plasma. Pretty excited. The smart platform alone sounds great.
Anyone own this? Anything I should know before I get it? Key settings?
Hm okay but surely there is a difference? Is that merely down to the TV itself (colours, design, etc)?
I'm not ignoring the fact people don't have burn in. It comes down to the fact that you are ignoring the people that are. People here have gotten it with less than 1000 hours. You make a lot of false asserted facts which are anything but as usual. I play games on my OLEDs often. I never said people should not be gaming on OLEDs. I said that LCD gaming was probably the better choice as a primary gaming TV. I don't think you understand / acknowledge the context.
It's not abuse, it's a limitation of the tech comparatively to other options.
Remember when you get the TV that you'll have to go into the menu and set the HDMI signal format to Enhanced format to get the full bandwidth and HDR for ports 2 and 3. Connect your PS4 Pro to port 2 or 3.
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https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900f/settings
Call it whatever you want, if the manufacturer and reviewers advise against a certain type of usage and you ignore that, then that's on you.
I wouldn't get mad if I went diving with my iPhone because it's "water resistant" and I was too dumb to understand that's different than "waterproof".
I guess not but we aren't talking about iPhones. We are talking about the comparison of resistance of the tv type. One is considered abuse the other is normal use.
Yes, according to the technology used. Both are displays, yes, but that does not mean their lifespans, functionality, or pros and cons are going to be identical.
No one is saying that here. At the very least I'm not.
My point is I signed up for buying an OLED knowing full well what that possibilities are, and anyone who signs up knowing the limitations and then does the thing that exacerbates the limitation and known issues, that's your own fucking fault.
Thank you, mate! I will follow the instructions.Remember when you get the TV that you'll have to go into the menu and set the HDMI signal format to Enhanced format to get the full bandwidth and HDR for ports 2 and 3. Connect your PS4 Pro to port 2 or 3.
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https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900f/settings
I had purchased a Vizio P55-f1, and was really impressed with it's performance, but I had issues with parts of the screen dimming, including a horizontal bar that would occasionally dim across the screen. I'm curious if I had a bad set, or if those kind of issues are inherent with FALD? Even my girlfriend was getting distracted while watching TV from parts of the screen changing in brightness.
I'm just looking for a TV with nice blacks and HDR performance. I was happy with the Vizio in those regards, and I'm hoping I don't have to spend an extra 500 on an OLED just to avoid those issues.
I'm just looking for a TV with nice blacks and HDR performance. I was happy with the Vizio in those regards, and I'm hoping I don't have to spend an extra 500 on an OLED just to avoid those issues.
That's the whole point. There are various levels of where that line is drawn due to the nature of burn in.
Sure and I'll agree with that, but it's not arbitrary. The general pattern is that the more you use the panel with the same static logos or content, the more that image is going to wear down the pixel life. Is there some variability? Yeah, in some rare cases people get a less resilient panel, but I've seen literally the exact same thing for LCD commercial displays at my job. Most are fine, but some of them get permanent retention way before their supposed shelf life. We've had a few get burn in within 6 months of usage.
There is always some element of panel lottery regardless of display.
With all of that said, it's been emphasized that you shouldn't put hundreds or thousands of hours into a game with a static hud on an OLED.
The user you pointed out did exactly that and paid the price.
If the price difference is big 100% get the F. I looked at full comparisons between the E, F and G models. That's the 2017, 2018 and 2019 models respectably. There is very little difference between all 3 and the older one can sometimes do things better then the new. It's all just slight changes good or bad. I could have spent an extra €600 getting the G but bought the F last week in the clearance sale. Picking it up tomorrow.
Thing is, only an extreme minority of people have suffered burn in, so it's not about ignoring them, but simply looking at things in greater context and appreciating that it's a rare outlier issue, not a common occurrence. Then there's an element of user responsibility too, just don't play 8 hours of X game in a row with static HUD elements in one place the entire time, and if you do, run an image retention cleaner video every 3-4 hours or whatever, and hey presto, burn in avoided.
Also, has anyone with a 2018 or 2019 model oled actually suffered burn in, in this thread? As far as I can tell, the ones who have suffered burn in are using older models, 2-4 years old, and even then admit to playing certain games or media on them for well over a thousand hours.
I was primarily a plasma user prior to oled, and you had to baby the older plasmas far more than you do OLED's. For me the PQ trade off will always be more than worth it, especially with how resilient to burn in these new sets are these days.
They look very similar. X900F feet can be switched around to point inward but not on the 950G.
950g is slightly brighter has lower contrast ratio. I could tell but it's minimal. I prefer X900f here.
1080p game mode output is about 19ms on 950g while 41ms on 900f
950g has full 2.0 bandwidth on all ports, only 2/3 have on 900f
Better remote on 950g
eArc support on 950g
950g comes with android 8.0 which is a bit smoother
Here in the UK the 950g is about £600 more expensive. I would go with 900f or look at the fald qled range in the 950g price range if I'm going to spend £1600. For 950g money OLED comes into the equation for some people.
I'd rather get a deal now and look at TVs in a few years time once all the new tech is in place and running great.
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Not fluctuate during, and it's PS4 Pro. It's either laggy or it isn't when I boot up an HDR game and the former requires a restart.
Argh this is so annoying lol. Is there any good source where you can check all of these specs 'cause I can't seem to find good comparison sites. Some of the shops don't even show the refresh rates which is very frustrating.
EDIT: Also maybe I'm missing something (probably) but you mention "950" but I don't see that anywhere in the models I posted? For clarification it's between the:
Sony KD-49XG9005 and KD-49XF9005
God I am so hungry for an OLED! Only bummer is I don't have 2k to spend on a TV, so I'll have to wait til Black Friday to buy either a B9 or GZ950...
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