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Moz La Punk

Journalist at Gamer.nl & Power Unlimited
Verified
May 15, 2018
1,354
The Netherlands
I've received the 55"" LG C9 today... what an experience. Best television I've ever had. Two of my colleagues (Im in the gaming press) have it as well. Can highly recommend it to everyone.
 

Deleted member 14649

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,524
Do you mean switching between regions or accounts? If the latter, can I set up two users? One in my country with ATV+ and one US account?

Yes setting up two accounts is easy. As mentioned, the new tvOS makes it even simpler to switch between them. You click on the account you wish active and that is it. The ATV changes region etc automatically.
 

taggen86

Member
Mar 3, 2018
464
We are now in the middle of October and have not heard anything about the g sync update since the Toms guide article 23 days ago (https://www.tomsguide.com/hands-on/g-sync-lg-oled-tvs). Hope it has not been delayed to November. Really want this before red dead on pc arrives on November 5th so I can max out the game with my 2080 ti without worrying about frame rate. Really want to replay control as well in 1440p DLSS with ray tracing where you really would need g sync.
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,625
We are now in the middle of October and have not heard anything about the g sync update since the Toms guide article 23 days ago (https://www.tomsguide.com/hands-on/g-sync-lg-oled-tvs). Hope it has not been delayed to November. Really want this before red dead on pc arrives on November 5th so I can max out the game with my 2080 ti without worrying about frame rate. Really want to replay control as well in 1440p DLSS with ray tracing where you really would need g sync.

With NVidia and LG's collective track record in software updates, I wouldn't hold your breath.

EDIT: Oh hello https://www.resetera.com/threads/lg...vrr-over-hdmi-coming-too.140057/post-25495830
 
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lorsel

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
201
I will buy the LG OLED 65 C9 in a couple of weeks. So how can i get 5.1 Sound at the moment? I want to use "eARC", HDMI from my GPU to the TV and then to my AVR (which got an eARC firmware update), so i can use VRR in the future without the need for buying a new AVR.

Do i need a sound card for that?
 
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asdad123

Member
Oct 25, 2017
217
Anyone have the Hisense h8f? I was going to get the TCL 625 for the bedroom, but im thinking I might just go with the h8f.

It's only $600 for the 65" and it looks like it has good reviews. It's mostly going to be used for watching TV (FiOS on TiVo) and some netflix/Amazon prime. Don't really want to spend the extra $200 for the 625 if this one is good.
 

Mitchman1411

Member
Jul 28, 2018
635
Oslo, Norway
I will buy the LG OLED 65 C9 in a couple of weeks. So how can i get 5.1 Sound at the moment? I want to use "eARC", HDMI from my GPU to the TV and then to my AVR (which got an eARC firmware update), so i can use VRR in the future without the need for buying a new AVR.

Do i need a sound card for that?
Most gfx cards also does sound on HDMI these days. If you open sound settings in Windows and check the output device, you should see the gfx card sound device.
 

Yerffej

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,538
Rtings finally got to the R625 QLED review.
www.rtings.com

TCL 6 Series/R625 2019 Review (55R625, 65R625)

The TCL 6 Series/R625 2019 is a good budget 4k TV that delivers a great HDR experience, with a picture quality that can rival other high-end TVs on the market. I...

Yeah...I'm saving up for a C9 or 2020 model now. I can't settle with those compromises.
 

thuway

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,168
The TCL MINI LED TV looks amazing. It's a generation or two away from sitting next to OLED at lunch
 

dedge

Member
Sep 15, 2019
2,429
Rtings finally got to the R625 QLED review.
www.rtings.com

TCL 6 Series/R625 2019 Review (55R625, 65R625)

The TCL 6 Series/R625 2019 is a good budget 4k TV that delivers a great HDR experience, with a picture quality that can rival other high-end TVs on the market. I...

Yeah...I'm saving up for a C9 or 2020 model now. I can't settle with those compromises.
It sounds a bit more of a lateral move compared to last years model than I was expecting with certain things better and certain worse. Not sure what to do know.
 

Bedlam

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,536
Just pulled the trigger and ordered an LG C9 55' for ~1500€. It'll be even cheaper in a few months but I can't wait any longer with the shitty pixel issues on my current TV.

Thanks to all the posters in this thread for providing some quick and valuable information for my purchase decision! What pushed me over the line in the end was when I read about the stellar display lag numbers of this TV model series. (7-16 ms for the C9 depending on VRR mode and resolution).
 
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Blackthorn

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,317
London
Turned on my C9 today to even more issues. There are now faint horizontal lines fairly evenly spaced across the screen. I ran a pixel refresher but they're still there.

I just want to be able to relax and love my TV 😭

Guess I'll be adding to my support ticket for the blinking issue. Does anyone here have experience with LG's UK support? How quickly are issues typically resolved?
 

Lionheart

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,842
Spiderman looks absolutely insane in HDR. At least in the day, the game looks weak in the night time.

But oh man its unbelivably sharp and beautiful. Definitely recommend it for the new C9 users out there. Loving the C9 btw.

I was really considering getting a QLED or equivelant LED because of the brighter panel but after a few weeks with the C9 there's no way I give up this panel. Specular highlights aren't even that different between the two techs from what i've seen.
 

CookieMonster

Member
Oct 30, 2017
156
It looks like Lion King 4K Live action is the next showcase for TVs. Its a 6.5K movie with a 2K DI. Some reviewers have mentioned that it looks exactly like a Planet Earth documentary and are amazed at how Disney achieved this on a heavy CG movie.
 

Blackthorn

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,317
London
Spiderman looks absolutely insane in HDR. At least in the day, the game looks weak in the night time.

But oh man its unbelivably sharp and beautiful. Definitely recommend it for the new C9 users out there. Loving the C9 btw.

I was really considering getting a QLED or equivelant LED because of the brighter panel but after a few weeks with the C9 there's no way I give up this panel. Specular highlights aren't even that different between the two techs from what i've seen.
Spider-Man has been the most impressive game for me in HDR so far. If you think it's not impressive at night, head to Times Square!
 

Addleburg

The Fallen
Nov 16, 2017
5,068
Does anyone here use bias lighting or have opinions about it? I've been thinking a little about maybe putting a bias light on the back of my TCL 6 series, but I don't know whether it's something that's still recommended these days now that HDR is something commonly found on TVs. I sometimes like to watch films at night with all my lights off and I haven't really found myself getting eye strain or anything. Would bias lighting still be worth looking into?
 

Mitchman1411

Member
Jul 28, 2018
635
Oslo, Norway
After turning on HDR on my Pro the screen has begun "blinking" every 5 minutes or so... Like fully black for around a second.

happens in games, youtube, netflix, menus etc. Anyone other have noticed this?
Did you fix this? It used to be a problem with some TVs until firmware updates fixed it. HDCP handshake issues usually.
Yes, but GPUs plugged into TVs via HDMI will often recognize the TV as only being a stereo device, and therefore not output surround even if the TV is plugged into an AVR...
Yeah, I see your point but surely that could be overcome with some EDID editing or using a receiver (but HDMI 2.1 might not work then..)
 

Blackthorn

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,317
London
Does anyone here use bias lighting or have opinions about it? I've been thinking a little about maybe putting a bias light on the back of my TCL 6 series, but I don't know whether it's something that's still recommended these days now that HDR is something commonly found on TVs. I sometimes like to watch films at night with all my lights off and I haven't really found myself getting eye strain or anything. Would bias lighting still be worth looking into?
I've always used it for purely aesthetic reasons. Without it, a television is this giant, black square in the corner of the room which darkens the space, so some lighting behind helps a lot.

I don't do anything fancy or high tech though, just LED strips from IKEA.
 

Azurik

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Nov 5, 2017
2,441
The TCL MINI LED TV looks amazing. It's a generation or two away from sitting next to OLED at lunch
According to hdtv it's not great for gaming. Game mode has not a good picture quality in regards to brightness and turning it off, introduces lag in excess of 50+
 

Ramathevoice

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,930
Paris, France
Does anyone here use bias lighting or have opinions about it? I've been thinking a little about maybe putting a bias light on the back of my TCL 6 series, but I don't know whether it's something that's still recommended these days now that HDR is something commonly found on TVs. I sometimes like to watch films at night with all my lights off and I haven't really found myself getting eye strain or anything. Would bias lighting still be worth looking into?
I use it for my monitor, and couldn't do without it anymore. Nothing fancy either, can't even be bothered with LED strips so I've just put an LED desk lamp behind my monitor oriented towards the wall.
 
Apr 11, 2018
2,437
Sweden
Did you fix this? It used to be a problem with some TVs until firmware updates fixed it. HDCP handshake issues usually.

Yeah, I see your point but surely that could be overcome with some EDID editing or using a receiver (but HDMI 2.1 might not work then..)
Okay changing the RGB to FULL did not solve it, it almost felt like it got worse.
Turning off HDCP works but that disables youtube, netflix etc which... Sucks. Want to use my 4k/HDR on movies too.

As far as I know I don't have any firmwares to download either sadly.

edit: also, haven't bought a new HDMI, could try this weekend
 

striderno9

The Fallen
Oct 31, 2017
2,343
New York, NY
So my Samsung Q80 55 inch arrived and it is beautiful. I bought Blade Runner in UHD 4K to test it out and it's glorious. I made some changes to the settings. I made some changes to the Game Mode and I think I'm all set. I played some NBA2K on the Xbox One X and I can't believe how good it looked. My eyes had to adjust a bit to fully accept how much more pop and cleaner it all looked.

Does anyone use the Game Enhancer settings that are on these Samsungs? I turned mine off to get the most intended look possible.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,387
Currently eyeing up a 65 inch C9 to replace my 55 inch B7. How good have black friday deals been on OLEDs in the past? Worth waiting til then?
 

Nothing Loud

Literally Cinderella
Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,981
Currently eyeing up a 65 inch C9 to replace my 55 inch B7. How good have black friday deals been on OLEDs in the past? Worth waiting til then?

From what I remember not great. Black Friday doesn't usually have OLEDs on sale. It's after the holidays and around CES that OLED prices drop significantly for the next round of TVs
 

KennyLinder

Game Designer at EA
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
3,619
Does anyone put LED lighting behind their TVs? Philips Hue or otherwise?

I have simple white lighting and quite like the effect.
 

AtomicShroom

Tools & Automation
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
3,078
So my Samsung Q80 55 inch arrived and it is beautiful. I bought Blade Runner in UHD 4K to test it out and it's glorious. I made some changes to the settings. I made some changes to the Game Mode and I think I'm all set. I played some NBA2K on the Xbox One X and I can't believe how good it looked. My eyes had to adjust a bit to fully accept how much more pop and cleaner it all looked.

Does anyone use the Game Enhancer settings that are on these Samsungs? I turned mine off to get the most intended look possible.

I turned them all off. I don't remember what they're called, but I remember that one was for adding frames via interpolation. It adds input lag, so no go. With the other settings, including the Black Frame Insertion one, I found that they can't handle games with inconsistent speeds and would regularly drop to 30fps for short whiles in what are normally 60fps games.

Also I posted earlier in this thread that I would end up getting visual distortions in games:

q80problemhskpn.png
 

Dukie85

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,533
Anyone have the Hisense h8f? I was going to get the TCL 625 for the bedroom, but im thinking I might just go with the h8f.

It's only $600 for the 65" and it looks like it has good reviews. It's mostly going to be used for watching TV (FiOS on TiVo) and some netflix/Amazon prime. Don't really want to spend the extra $200 for the 625 if this one is good.
I have it and I love it. Has enough brightness for me and the bezel-less form factor is glorious. Gorgeous picture quality as well.
 

striderno9

The Fallen
Oct 31, 2017
2,343
New York, NY
I turned them all off. I don't remember what they're called, but I remember that one was for adding frames via interpolation. It adds input lag, so no go. With the other settings, including the Black Frame Insertion one, I found that they can't handle games with inconsistent speeds and would regularly drop to 30fps for short whiles in what are normally 60fps games.

Also I posted earlier in this thread that I would end up getting visual distortions in games:

q80problemhskpn.png

Yup, I left Gamemode on but turned off the Game Enhancer stuff, I don't like the idea of artificially changing the look of the game. Do you keep Game mode on at least?
 

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,657
Out of curiosity, how do the TVs that support it handle 120fps? Does HDMI 2.0 support that? At only 1080p I assume
 

DangerMouse

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,402
Spider-Man has been the most impressive game for me in HDR so far. If you think it's not impressive at night, head to Times Square!
Yup, damn it looked good there.

HZD also has gorgeous night visuals.

It looks like Lion King 4K Live action is the next showcase for TVs. Its a 6.5K movie with a 2K DI. Some reviewers have mentioned that it looks exactly like a Planet Earth documentary and are amazed at how Disney achieved this on a heavy CG movie.
Yeah, the disc seems to be getting a TON of praise, really excited to see it.
 

tastybread

Member
Oct 27, 2017
320
For TV ISF has 2 modes, dark room and bright room. You can try the bright room mode and then adjust the OLED Light if you need more brightness.

For Cinema, IIRC Cinema at Home mode is a similar case, close to Cinema mode but more suited for brigther rooms, try that and also adjust the OLED Light if you need (don't do it if it's an HDR mode though, Brightness and Contrast should never be touched in HDR modes).

Of course, if you like Standard mode better just go for it. At the end you should watch the TV with the settings you like the most . Just pls don't use Vivid mode lol
As we were cycling through the TV modes, Vivid made us both go eeuughh haha, so no worries there!

We're only watching the TV in a dark room, like near pitch black really. I feel that, when Cinema mode is used, the film/show etc looks far more atmospheric, and I guess after a few minutes of watching it, any changes from the standard mode would look normal to you. Switching back and fourth highlights the differences in a very stark way.

On the subject of TV viewing modes, am I right in saying that when I play a piece of HDR or Dolby Vision content, the TV will automatically change the TV viewing mode to what it deems best?

I've been looking at BluRay players recently. It's all going to come down to preference I guess. A disc is meant to have 4x the bitrate of a Netflix stream, and lossless audio; However I watched Meridian last night (which was cheesy and stupid as fuck haha) and it looked incredible, it looked a bit soap opera like but the visual fidelity was insane. To think that a BluRay could look even better? Maybe I wouldn't notice it.

Theres also the cost of buying discs, which would add up, not to mention there aren't many if any films we watch over and over, we tend to just move on.

But then I've just spent over a grand on a TV, why skimp out on a BR player now, I may as well just go for it and get it done. The Panasonic dp-ub820 looks like the king for the price, & as much as it would be nice to wait for the PS5, there's no way of knowing how good/average/bad it'll be as a BR player. I heard that the Xbox One S was bad for a while until firmware updates, and even then there's reports of it sounding like a jet engine. Rather just drop £100 extra and be done with it.