Rtings settings describe the dark room setting gives out a correct 100nit output for SDR. That can't be too bright
Does the PQ not have separate settings for SDR/HDR. The Rtings settings only talk about SDr
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Rtings settings describe the dark room setting gives out a correct 100nit output for SDR. That can't be too bright
Does the PQ not have separate settings for SDR/HDR. The Rtings settings only talk about SDr
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SDR content isnt causing any issues. It's just when watching HDR
Idk I look at screens in general all day long and night honestly so maybe I just have generalized eye strain and the HDR TV is just accentuating what's already there?
for first 2 weeks I got HDR tv, I was getting eye strain too, was really weird since I am used to heavy gaming n stuff. Then I fiddled with setting , picked a more warm color preset , got biased lighting and I barely have any eye strain. I just think I got used to it
I'm googling away to see if you need to set it up differently for HDR.
Out of interest, is the gamma option available to you when you are running something in HDR?
Yes, unless the TV users identical settings for HDR and SDR, which is unusual.
Usuall you have to be running the content in order to access the calibration settings for that input type.
They haven't for this set, just turn on the HDMI socket.
There is a big set of calibration guidelines here
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-...owners-thread-no-price-talk.html#post56524754
To be honest, it reads like it's all fairly accurate out of the box, however they do have a few reccomendations for what settings do based upon your preferences
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Their page doesn't seem to have detailed HDR settings for the PQ. Check AVSforum. You have an account there? Want me to ask for you?
OLED fam, we got another one. Maybe Sony was right for not targeting 4,000 nits.
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Benji I put AVSForum's recommended Calibration in the spoiler tags...
VIZIO P-Series Quantum Advanced Calibration Tips
Overall:
• Calibrated Dark: Use this picture mode for the most accurate reproduction of studio content when viewed in a dark room. Xtreme Black Engine should default to Medium for HDR and Low for SDR; Gamma is set to 2.2.
• Calibrated: Use this picture mode for an accurate but bright reproduction of studio content when viewed in a typically lit room. Xtreme Black Engine should be set to Medium for HDR and SDR; Gamma is set to 2.1.
• Game: Use this setting for the best gaming response. Game Low Latency and Clear Action are enabled. For consoles, change the Color Temp setting to Normal (close to D6500K).
o Use Input 5 for non-HDR, 1080p signals—like those from a PC--with up to 120Hz refresh. Set the Color Temp to "Computer", which is roughly 9300K.
1. Select the Appropriate Input:
a. HDMI inputs 1-4 accommodate HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2.2 (600MHz pixel clock rate).
i. 2160p/60p, 4:4:4, 8-bit
ii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
iii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 12-bit
b. HDMI 5 also accepts HDMI v1.4/HDCP2.2 signals (370MHz pixel clock rate). This will accept the following:
i. 2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 8-bit
ii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 10-bit
iii. 1080p/120p, 4:4:4, 10-bit
iv. 1080p/120p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
c. Input 5 will likely offer the lowest lag time for gaming, but also has no scaling or HDR function and should only be used with progressive or UHD signals.
d. Input 1 offers HDMI ARC.
2. Enable HDMI 2.0 signals for the HDR input, when needed (ie for newer UHD BD players and 4K/60 signals):
a. Go to the Menu>Settings>Inputs>Full UHD Color,
b. Enable the Full UHD Color for the input that you are using to support HDMI 2.0.
i. If you change the setting after your devices are connected, you may need to power cycle the source device to restart the HDMI handshake.
ii. When Full UHD Color is enabled, the input may no longer accept the HDMI signal from older HDMI devices (like your STB or BD player).
iii. Some players (Samsung and Oppo) playing most content (any 4K/24 movie) may not need the 2.0 input and may play fine through v1.4 inputs even without the Full UHD Color setting enabled.
iv. "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" is 4k/60 and will require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input.
v. Some devices, like the new Xbox and Philips UHD player or 4K-capable streaming sticks require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input, regardless of the content played.
3. Set the Picture Mode:
a. Go to the Menu, select Picture, then choose Picture Mode:
i. Vivid – preset for store showrooms
ii. Standard – For energy-efficient home viewing
iii. Calibrated – Settings are preset to be accurate for brighter room environments (gamma is set to 2.1)
iv. Calibrated Dark – More accurately calibrated settings for a dark room (gamma is set to 2.2).
v. Game Mode – optimizes settings for minimal input lag
vi. Computer Mode – Adjusts settings for PC images
b. Any picture mode can be adjusted to provide an accurate image.
c. The TV will auto-detect if the signal is SDR or HDR and will switch the Picture Mode to the corresponding HDR settings, when needed.
i. With SDR signals: Both Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Modes match closest to the Rec709 color gamut and a D65 white point. "Calibrated" default gamma is closer to 2.1, where "Calibrated Dark" gamma is closer to "2.2". .
ii. With HDR signals: The Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Mode settings match closest to the most accurate, or "Golden Reference" HDR characteristics for the displays, which means it will match as close as possible to the SMPTE 2084 EOTF (or "PQ") curve, and will offer as much of the Rec2020 color space as the display, and content, can accommodate.
d. Changes made to any Picture Mode will create a Custom Picture mode (the picture mode will have an *asterisk next to the name). Go to Picture Mode Edit to save the settings as a custom picture mode with a custom name.
4. Adjust Picture Menu settings: (Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness) to match your source and environment.
a. Backlight – For HDR signals, the accurate OSD "Backlight" setting is 50. When an HDR signal is recognized by the display, the display luminance (backlight) is maximized, but the on-screen display setting says 50. With HDR signals, changes to the "Backlight" control adjust the middle of the EOTF curve, making the image appear brighter. For SDR, this setting increases the backlight luminance.
b. Setting Sharpness to 0 will disable edge-enhancement.
5. Select "More Picture" for additional settings (the following are not necessarily in order):
a. Color Temperature – Changes the overall color temp. "Normal" is closest to D6500. "Cool" is closer to the panel's native color, which leans blue (closer to 11000-15000k), but will provide the brightest measurement.
b. Black Detail – Changes the gamma curve near black to increase shadow detail. It has no effect in HDR.
c. Xtreme Black Engine (for 2018 models)– Select the low, medium or high setting to enable local dimming and peak brightness. Medium and High settings offer better contrast with increased peak brightness in specular highlights. Lower the setting to eliminate halo or blooming effects. When calibrating, it is best to keep this disabled, or use test patterns with Constant Average Picture Levels. When measuring for Peak Brightness with small windows, we recommend the High setting:
i. Low – Activates local dimming without peak highlight brightness; peak highlights typically dim as the APL decreases so as to minimize blooming
ii. Med – Activates both local dimming and peak highlighting (brighter specular highlights) while still preserving black levels and preventing most halos. Highlights measure brightest with 10%-25%-sized windows on a black background. This is the setting VIZIO recommends for both HDR and SDR content.
iii. High – Activates aggressive local dimming and peak brightness settings for the highest contrast possible. Very small highlights are brightest with2-10%-sized windows on a black background. Note that if you measure even smaller windows, you may not reach the TV's peak brightness value..
d. Clear Action – This setting changes the duty cycle of the backlight to mask the inherent "sample and hold" effect (and visible crystal change) of liquid crystal display panels, thus allowing the user to see and follow motion in the image more clearly.
e. Game Low Latency – Select this setting to reduce image lag for video games. Note: lower lag is available in the HDMI 5 input (on UHD models).
f. Reduce Judder (P-Series and higher) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 24 and 30 fps content. Increasing this setting will reduce the stuttering that is inherent when we view 24 fps content on TV, making the content smooth and more detailed. Set this function to 0 to eliminate the smoothing effect.
i. Eliminate 3-2 – When the "Reduce Judder" function is set to 0, and "Cinema Mode" is on, the film mode detection will match the refresh rate of the panel at a multiple of the 24-fps content so that there is no 3-2 frame conversion, thus giving the viewer a true, film-like appearance.
g. Reduce Motion Blur (where available) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 60 fps content. Increasing the setting reduces the visibility of motion blur.
h. Color Space -- Select YCbCr for normal consumer HDMI sources (16-235). Select RGB for PC sources (0-255).
i. Gamma – Adjust the value to increase or decrease the gamma curve to the desired measured value. The 2.2 setting is typically the most accurate for dark rooms with either SDR or HDR.
j. Cinema Mode/Film Mode – Creates the most film-like image.
i. With interlaced content, Film Mode enables 3-2 detection and compensation.
ii. With 24p content, the display will play back at an even multiple of 24 frames to preserve the film cadence.
6. For professional calibrators using calibration equipment, select "Color Calibration" to fine-tune the picture calibration:
a. Go to the Menu>Picture> Color Calibration>Color Tuner
b. Tips –
i. Best to adjust the SDR signal first, then Dolby Vision and HDR10.
ii. Significant adjustments to the HDR10 CMS signal are not recommended as the display will tone/color map the incoming signal while it's being adjusted. Dolby Vision compensates for this with their Golden Reference target point.
iii. Adjust White Balance first; starting with a baseline "white" should reduce the amount of CMS fine-tuning that is needed.
c. 2-point White Balance calibration – In the Color Tuner menu.
i. Use the Offset and Gain controls to adjust the overall Color Temp at low (~20-30%) and high (~80%) levels.
1. Use the Offset controls sparingly.
2. Try not to raise the Offset more than a couple points, if at all, or it will raise the black level.
ii. Adjust the three RGB levels for Offset and Gain equally to change the Gamma curve.
1. For example, to lower the gamma, raise the red, green and blue Gain values, or vice versa.
2. As above, use the Offset controls as little as possible, and don't raise them.
d. 11-point White Balance calibration – From the top of the "Color Calibration" menu, cycle the menu from "Color Tuner" to "11-point White Balance".
i. Adjust the RGB values separately to fine-tune the Color Temp.
ii. Adjust the RGB values together to fine-tune the Gamma curve (i.e. increase all of them the same amount to decrease the gamma curve at that specific point).
e. Color Tuner – Use the Hue, Saturation and Brightness controls to fine-tune the color gamut. View and compare the results from different saturation levels to achieve the best balance.
Overall:
• Calibrated Dark: Use this picture mode for the most accurate reproduction of studio content when viewed in a dark room. Xtreme Black Engine should default to Medium for HDR and Low for SDR; Gamma is set to 2.2.
• Calibrated: Use this picture mode for an accurate but bright reproduction of studio content when viewed in a typically lit room. Xtreme Black Engine should be set to Medium for HDR and SDR; Gamma is set to 2.1.
• Game: Use this setting for the best gaming response. Game Low Latency and Clear Action are enabled. For consoles, change the Color Temp setting to Normal (close to D6500K).
o Use Input 5 for non-HDR, 1080p signals—like those from a PC--with up to 120Hz refresh. Set the Color Temp to "Computer", which is roughly 9300K.
1. Select the Appropriate Input:
a. HDMI inputs 1-4 accommodate HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2.2 (600MHz pixel clock rate).
i. 2160p/60p, 4:4:4, 8-bit
ii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
iii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 12-bit
b. HDMI 5 also accepts HDMI v1.4/HDCP2.2 signals (370MHz pixel clock rate). This will accept the following:
i. 2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 8-bit
ii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 10-bit
iii. 1080p/120p, 4:4:4, 10-bit
iv. 1080p/120p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
c. Input 5 will likely offer the lowest lag time for gaming, but also has no scaling or HDR function and should only be used with progressive or UHD signals.
d. Input 1 offers HDMI ARC.
2. Enable HDMI 2.0 signals for the HDR input, when needed (ie for newer UHD BD players and 4K/60 signals):
a. Go to the Menu>Settings>Inputs>Full UHD Color,
b. Enable the Full UHD Color for the input that you are using to support HDMI 2.0.
i. If you change the setting after your devices are connected, you may need to power cycle the source device to restart the HDMI handshake.
ii. When Full UHD Color is enabled, the input may no longer accept the HDMI signal from older HDMI devices (like your STB or BD player).
iii. Some players (Samsung and Oppo) playing most content (any 4K/24 movie) may not need the 2.0 input and may play fine through v1.4 inputs even without the Full UHD Color setting enabled.
iv. "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" is 4k/60 and will require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input.
v. Some devices, like the new Xbox and Philips UHD player or 4K-capable streaming sticks require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input, regardless of the content played.
3. Set the Picture Mode:
a. Go to the Menu, select Picture, then choose Picture Mode:
i. Vivid – preset for store showrooms
ii. Standard – For energy-efficient home viewing
iii. Calibrated – Settings are preset to be accurate for brighter room environments (gamma is set to 2.1)
iv. Calibrated Dark – More accurately calibrated settings for a dark room (gamma is set to 2.2).
v. Game Mode – optimizes settings for minimal input lag
vi. Computer Mode – Adjusts settings for PC images
b. Any picture mode can be adjusted to provide an accurate image.
c. The TV will auto-detect if the signal is SDR or HDR and will switch the Picture Mode to the corresponding HDR settings, when needed.
i. With SDR signals: Both Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Modes match closest to the Rec709 color gamut and a D65 white point. "Calibrated" default gamma is closer to 2.1, where "Calibrated Dark" gamma is closer to "2.2". .
ii. With HDR signals: The Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Mode settings match closest to the most accurate, or "Golden Reference" HDR characteristics for the displays, which means it will match as close as possible to the SMPTE 2084 EOTF (or "PQ") curve, and will offer as much of the Rec2020 color space as the display, and content, can accommodate.
d. Changes made to any Picture Mode will create a Custom Picture mode (the picture mode will have an *asterisk next to the name). Go to Picture Mode Edit to save the settings as a custom picture mode with a custom name.
4. Adjust Picture Menu settings: (Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness) to match your source and environment.
a. Backlight – For HDR signals, the accurate OSD "Backlight" setting is 50. When an HDR signal is recognized by the display, the display luminance (backlight) is maximized, but the on-screen display setting says 50. With HDR signals, changes to the "Backlight" control adjust the middle of the EOTF curve, making the image appear brighter. For SDR, this setting increases the backlight luminance.
b. Setting Sharpness to 0 will disable edge-enhancement.
5. Select "More Picture" for additional settings (the following are not necessarily in order):
a. Color Temperature – Changes the overall color temp. "Normal" is closest to D6500. "Cool" is closer to the panel's native color, which leans blue (closer to 11000-15000k), but will provide the brightest measurement.
b. Black Detail – Changes the gamma curve near black to increase shadow detail. It has no effect in HDR.
c. Xtreme Black Engine (for 2018 models)– Select the low, medium or high setting to enable local dimming and peak brightness. Medium and High settings offer better contrast with increased peak brightness in specular highlights. Lower the setting to eliminate halo or blooming effects. When calibrating, it is best to keep this disabled, or use test patterns with Constant Average Picture Levels. When measuring for Peak Brightness with small windows, we recommend the High setting:
i. Low – Activates local dimming without peak highlight brightness; peak highlights typically dim as the APL decreases so as to minimize blooming
ii. Med – Activates both local dimming and peak highlighting (brighter specular highlights) while still preserving black levels and preventing most halos. Highlights measure brightest with 10%-25%-sized windows on a black background. This is the setting VIZIO recommends for both HDR and SDR content.
iii. High – Activates aggressive local dimming and peak brightness settings for the highest contrast possible. Very small highlights are brightest with2-10%-sized windows on a black background. Note that if you measure even smaller windows, you may not reach the TV's peak brightness value..
d. Clear Action – This setting changes the duty cycle of the backlight to mask the inherent "sample and hold" effect (and visible crystal change) of liquid crystal display panels, thus allowing the user to see and follow motion in the image more clearly.
e. Game Low Latency – Select this setting to reduce image lag for video games. Note: lower lag is available in the HDMI 5 input (on UHD models).
f. Reduce Judder (P-Series and higher) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 24 and 30 fps content. Increasing this setting will reduce the stuttering that is inherent when we view 24 fps content on TV, making the content smooth and more detailed. Set this function to 0 to eliminate the smoothing effect.
i. Eliminate 3-2 – When the "Reduce Judder" function is set to 0, and "Cinema Mode" is on, the film mode detection will match the refresh rate of the panel at a multiple of the 24-fps content so that there is no 3-2 frame conversion, thus giving the viewer a true, film-like appearance.
g. Reduce Motion Blur (where available) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 60 fps content. Increasing the setting reduces the visibility of motion blur.
h. Color Space -- Select YCbCr for normal consumer HDMI sources (16-235). Select RGB for PC sources (0-255).
i. Gamma – Adjust the value to increase or decrease the gamma curve to the desired measured value. The 2.2 setting is typically the most accurate for dark rooms with either SDR or HDR.
j. Cinema Mode/Film Mode – Creates the most film-like image.
i. With interlaced content, Film Mode enables 3-2 detection and compensation.
ii. With 24p content, the display will play back at an even multiple of 24 frames to preserve the film cadence.
6. For professional calibrators using calibration equipment, select "Color Calibration" to fine-tune the picture calibration:
a. Go to the Menu>Picture> Color Calibration>Color Tuner
b. Tips –
i. Best to adjust the SDR signal first, then Dolby Vision and HDR10.
ii. Significant adjustments to the HDR10 CMS signal are not recommended as the display will tone/color map the incoming signal while it's being adjusted. Dolby Vision compensates for this with their Golden Reference target point.
iii. Adjust White Balance first; starting with a baseline "white" should reduce the amount of CMS fine-tuning that is needed.
c. 2-point White Balance calibration – In the Color Tuner menu.
i. Use the Offset and Gain controls to adjust the overall Color Temp at low (~20-30%) and high (~80%) levels.
1. Use the Offset controls sparingly.
2. Try not to raise the Offset more than a couple points, if at all, or it will raise the black level.
ii. Adjust the three RGB levels for Offset and Gain equally to change the Gamma curve.
1. For example, to lower the gamma, raise the red, green and blue Gain values, or vice versa.
2. As above, use the Offset controls as little as possible, and don't raise them.
d. 11-point White Balance calibration – From the top of the "Color Calibration" menu, cycle the menu from "Color Tuner" to "11-point White Balance".
i. Adjust the RGB values separately to fine-tune the Color Temp.
ii. Adjust the RGB values together to fine-tune the Gamma curve (i.e. increase all of them the same amount to decrease the gamma curve at that specific point).
e. Color Tuner – Use the Hue, Saturation and Brightness controls to fine-tune the color gamut. View and compare the results from different saturation levels to achieve the best balance.
Oh thats interesting they dont have HDR settings for the PQ.
Maybe these new settings will help Benji.
Walmart has it $600 off at just under $3K.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-OLED6...woofer-Sound-Bar-Satellite-Speakers/326272818
Does the Vizio pq enter Dolby visions mode, or HDR modes based on the content the way LG OLED's? The B7 has a little notification at the top right telling you it's engaged DV mode, and then you can adjust the settings based in that mode.
Dolby Vision Display 4000nits
FALD LED display 1500+nits
LED billboard 8000+
The blue sky on a sunny day 7000nits
Yeah I dont know what it is, genuinely a lot of people seem to love the brightness on the PQ but its genuinely bothering me. Which I cant figure out why that would be because plenty of stuff in your daily life you see isnt as bright and doesnt bother me. The PQ genuinely is.
Thanks everyone who tried to help with settings but it's still bothering me. I'm just gonna return it. I've never had this issue watching a friends OLED set
Thanks everyone who tried to help with settings but it's still bothering me. I'm just gonna return it. I've never had this issue watching a friends OLED set
You PC guys are in much better place, when it comes to HDR picture quality! Every single game outputs actual metadata of 1000 nits luminance, 1000 nit Maxcll, and a maxfall of 20.
Injection did brighten it, but most of the time to it's detriment, goes to show how annoying it is that consoles output nothing, but react to injection hugely.
Injection did brighten it, but most of the time to it's detriment, goes to show how annoying it is that consoles output nothing, but react to injection hugely.
Rtngs has backlight at 1 for a dark room (testing but I have found using their lower BL settings on several of my TVs has worked well)
I'm guessing your Vizio defaults to backlight 50 when HDR kicks in as it does on my M?
maybe try lowering backlight significantly and or try Gamma 2.4?
Too many nits in a small, dark room that isn't filtered by other light.
Lol yeah it's been a willd one lol
Hey at least I've provided some entertainment to the thread
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I know the feeling of having your heart set on something only to be disappointed (Samsung LED a few years back for me). Most people don't admit it though so at least you have and now you know OLED will make you happy :)
Yeah I'm not trying to trash on the PQ for those still interested in it. The TV has a great picture, great colors, etc. And really good input lag. I fully see a lot of people loving this TV
It's just too damn bright for me in HDR for my tastes, and those viewing angles really dont work for my seating. Honestly the angles are much worse than I was expecting
I was wondering how a 2000+ nit tv would work for normal viewing. Heck my b7 is almost too bright in game mode in a light controlled environment in hdr for some games in hdr. It really makes you wonder the companies really targeting 10,000 are they going to be using these tvs on the beach in the middle of the day or something.
I got a new job this year and, with it, a salary increase of nearly 50%. I've been using the same Plasma display since 2011. I actually love it and want to repurpose as it as a second TV in a separate room, but the primary motivating factor in keeping me from upgrading is that aside from still functioning perfectly, it has that sweet SWEET 0ms response time.
That said, in upgrading, I have three primary concerns:
- 45-50 inches MAX. Anything bigger will be overkill and present space issues in my current living situation. Not to mention, 50 inches is already more than I need. Nothing under 45, though.
- Lowest possible response time
- As many HDMI ports as possible. I already own an hdmi switch, but I'm not particularly a fan of that setup.
Does such a TV exist and can it be had for a reasonable price? If so, give me some tips to look out for. I will look into buying around Black Friday.
That said, in upgrading, I have three primary concerns:
- 45-50 inches MAX. Anything bigger will be overkill and present space issues in my current living situation. Not to mention, 50 inches is already more than I need. Nothing under 45, though.
- Lowest possible response time
- As many HDMI ports as possible. I already own an hdmi switch, but I'm not particularly a fan of that setup.
Does such a TV exist and can it be had for a reasonable price? If so, give me some tips to look out for. I will look into buying around Black Friday.
Refresh tvs of current tv components and screen refresh are probably quicker than a 2011 tv. I dont think you are taking into account the processing part done by your tv.
I can for sure say in my case over 2000 is just too much. Like I said I've never had eye strain like this when watching on a buddies OLED. I also know someone with a Vizio M series and again no strain.
2000 in such a small space just felt insanely overkill to me. I'm sure some people it wont bother at all, and at times its genuinely jaw dropping. The highlights when Dr Strange was fighting Thanos in Infinity War was literally jaw dropping. But overall it just felt way too much to me
I think 1000 nits or so is much more comfortable viewing
Most manufacturers do not make a display under 55" for their mid-range line. Only Sony and Samsung do with the X900F and the NU8000.
Dolby must be wrong , with their facts and science
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I know very very little about TV tech, but from what I understood, Plasma TVs were literally 0ms or as close as a TV could possibly get, due to the way they refreshed images, which was why many gamers preferred them over LCD (the only downside was image burn-in, but my display rarely suffers any, and it's easily fixable when it does occur). Now that LED is the new standard for pretty much all affordable TVs, response times in many of the bigger brands are equivalent to what they were in the LCDs of yesteryear. I remember reading several reviews last year during the holidays, and each mentioning whether response time was noticeably laggy for use in gaming.
But like I said, I'm pretty uninformed on TV tech, so I could be misinformed or misunderstanding what I've heard.
Maybe the local dimming algorithm making sure the highlights are as bright as possible while making the rest of the picture dimmer?
Panel refresh rate is quick for plasma yes. But the input lag for games could be all over in latency. Could be anywhere between 20-100ms most likely depending on tv.
When do you think we would have the chance to get a 4k with true HDR in the range of $ 400? Something like a P605 or P607? Is it possible to have a good deal before black friday or am I set to wait until November?
I'm sure I could be in the minority. Judging by what I'm seeing online with people loving the brightness of the PQ, I wouldn't be surprise at all if a lot of people will end up preferring something with 2000 or more nits
But I do think after what I experienced it may end up being a preference thing where some people dont like going that bright. I'm not so sure that 2000 nits is going to be ideal for all consumers, and I genuinely dont get how someone could feel comfortable sitting and watching a 4000 nit display for long periods of time.
For example the first 30 minutes of Infinity War all I could think was how gorgeous the HDR looked. But by the end of it my eyes were legit worn out. I think those really high nit sets test extremely well but I wonder if a decent amount of people might get uncomfortable viewing them for extended periods
The p6 were selling for $500 from best buy two months ago. As quick as Tv prices fall. The probem is that TCL is the floor at the backlit tvs right now. So it is dependent on other tv manufactures entering the budget market with multizone tvs.
My roommate says the OLED is too bright, especially at night with HDR stuff.
2000 to 4000 nits focused in a spot (TV) in a dark room is much stronger to the eye than the 8000 nit LED billboard that is flooded by all kinds of light pollution.
Huh? I think it goes right along with what I'm saying.
2000 to 4000 nits focused in a spot (TV) in a dark room is much stronger to the eye than the 8000 nit LED billboard that is flooded by all kinds of light pollution.
Fair enough. Do you have any good gaming-specific TV recommendations with a high number of hdmi ports, good refresh, and around 50 inches?
How large is your current tv or better yet what is the make and model and budget are the first two questions.