Twitter is weird as fuck about their 'rules', but this is just them trying to get ahead of the problem, thanks to YouTube's incompetence.
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Twitter annouces it's banning all depictions of child pornography, including loli and shota art
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Twitter is weird as fuck about their 'rules', but this is just them trying to get ahead of the problem, thanks to YouTube's incompetence.
going by some of his past posts he has a pretty hard time of telling when someone is underage so it's not too surprising.
oh my god imagine if this was actually the standard by which we determined whether or not the art was acceptable or not
EDIT: this would be so terrible and asinine I could absolutely see Twitter do it
Considering said lump was over Lyn, of whom the most you could say for sexualization is her dress slit and her combat sprite's single boob bounce, I'd say your point in this context is moot. More so when other people are having a tattoo levied against them as some kind of proof they're a pedophile. And over a post where all I said was I miss Fire Emblem characters like Lyn in response to Nowi being posted earlier.
I guess that doesn't really matter now since you've found the excuse you needed to attack me directly by trying to pin my avatar as child porn.
Thank you for informing me, I've now looked into that. The main point of my original post I guess is not necessarily that other countries don't have sexual assault crisis'. More so that having widely available loli isn't keeping men from groping young girls.
Yall... this means nothing. The vast majority of popular anime characters (and most cartoons as well) are teenagers. Twitter is not going to ban all sexual My Hero Academia, Danganronpa, Persona, Splatoon, etc fanart.
I would imagine its going to apply to characters who primarily look pre-pubescent, but that was already a policy.
I would imagine its going to apply to characters who primarily look pre-pubescent, but that was already a policy.
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Don't draw obviously underage characters in a sexual light. Easy enough, should be the default mindset. This won't effect hentai of adult characters.
To those concerned about how this will effect adult characters (well, adult adult, not "I'm actually a 1000 year old space princess" excuse adult)... Well, using crude terminology, the body type of a flat-chested woman or a shortstack is definitely different from a child's, or a feminine guy's from a child's. If you can't differentiate in your style, you don't need to post your art until you can.
To those concerned about how this will effect adult characters (well, adult adult, not "I'm actually a 1000 year old space princess" excuse adult)... Well, using crude terminology, the body type of a flat-chested woman or a shortstack is definitely different from a child's, or a feminine guy's from a child's. If you can't differentiate in your style, you don't need to post your art until you can.
Never implied anything regarding that, just saying that this is a problem big enough in Paris that it needs to be raised time and again.
Also in this case, young, old, beautiful, ugly matters not, what's important is making women feel unsafe in a public setting.
Sexualization of minor (real or not) still shouldn't be a thing.
Objectification is already rather gross when it involves grown adults, it becomes...uncomfortable as soon as minor are involved to say the least.
I think we can agree that a mainstream platform like Twitter where kids routinely surf shouldn't be a place where you can come across child porn. A private website banning content is within their rights. Keeping content that feeds predatory inclinations off major platforms wherever possible is a good call. That being said, this is just Twitter clarifying an already existing policy. Their enforcement will unfortunately remain the same in all likelihood.
Oh I didn't mean your post. My original post was a reply to someone saying that loli could possibly be a good thing in that it keeps some pedophiles from acting on their desires. So I shared an article detailing the epidemic of sexual assault on young girls in Japan.
Oh you're right, the interesting part is the epidemic of sexual assault being in a country where the culture is rather hands off in comparison.
I mean in France, it is customary to kiss a lady on the cheek when meeting (including in work environment).
So it wouldn't be a shock that in this culture it could degenerate in sexual assault in the wrong conditions.
Yeah the issue isn't small, I remember someone did some calculation about the amount loli and shota in straight doujin he founds 28% of doujin are lolicon and 8% are straight shota
Will do.
But just for the record (as if I don't say this I look like a creep); my previous comment was not entirely serious. That is all.
I'd say "I think we can agree that any website shouldn't be a place where you can come across child porn" but this thread puts that thought to rest
I agree, but I'm looking at it from the more realistic perspective that it will always exist somewhere, so we can at least keep it out of easy reach on the major platforms.
I just don't understand why it's a thing in the first place...
I eagerly await the likely never approaching day where it's removed from anime entirely, allowing me to watch shows without worrying about a sexualized Loli character being introduced halfway through and killing all my interest. Needless fan service (especially involving Loli characters) is literally the only thing keeping me from resuming my old anime watching habits.
I eagerly await the likely never approaching day where it's removed from anime entirely, allowing me to watch shows without worrying about a sexualized Loli character being introduced halfway through and killing all my interest. Needless fan service (especially involving Loli characters) is literally the only thing keeping me from resuming my old anime watching habits.
The people who you talk about advertise that they are paedophiles in their Twitter bio by saying MAP. Ask yourself why they do that/why is that necessary? MAP itself is a really dubious term that the community has come up with that if you ask me borders on attempting to rebrand/normalize paedophilia. Or make the public think it's less of a worry if someone says they are a MAP or anti-contact MAP instead of it being said they are a... paedophile.
If you want to use Twitter go ahead and use Twitter, we can't read minds, so "Schrodinger's Paedophiles" can exist. But when you begin to advertise it, whether it's retweeting, commenting or what you put in your bio to identify yourself, no, Twitter is not obligated to "support you". Whatever therapists or law agents who are aware of you are there for that.
I'm sure you'd be right into a topic about some right-wing dipshit who does or says something to bring attention to themselves saying Twitter should deplatform them, so I'm not sure where your more relaxed opinions on Twitter paedophiles comes from?
If you identify yourself as a paedophile then you are liable for Twitter not to feel it's appropriate for you to use their service when there are lots of minors on it. It goes without saying the vast majority of the public would probably support that feeling too.
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Can I just say that I like how level-headed most people in here are?
There are other communities out there saying stuff like the UN (and now Twitter) are waging a "fight against anime", or using defenses like "it's a picture, it's harmless".
Now, I understand that a larger number of those people are probably underage horndogs with no social skills, but it's scary how many people are choosing to die on that hill.
So having this thread is a nice reminder that's its not all lost.
There are other communities out there saying stuff like the UN (and now Twitter) are waging a "fight against anime", or using defenses like "it's a picture, it's harmless".
Now, I understand that a larger number of those people are probably underage horndogs with no social skills, but it's scary how many people are choosing to die on that hill.
So having this thread is a nice reminder that's its not all lost.
The only MAP I knew about until recently was "multi animator/artist project". Why do pedos have to ruin everything?
Even without regulation: Just don't draw or share lolicon, shotacon, or toddlercon, guys. It's not hard, or you'd think it wouldn't be. No one needs to see that shit.
Ah yeah, the UN option that isn't even out of the drafting phase that people are drumming up outrage videos about. Lmao. Shows why they're actually into anime, doesn't it?
Even without regulation: Just don't draw or share lolicon, shotacon, or toddlercon, guys. It's not hard, or you'd think it wouldn't be. No one needs to see that shit.
Oh, I read the topic as "all depictions of pornography"
I was about to be legitimately shocked. Though I expect that to happen soon regardless.
I was about to be legitimately shocked. Though I expect that to happen soon regardless.
Today I learned you can just straight-up link to 8chan and nobody (at Twitter) gives a shit.
EDIT: nvm, apparently THQ nordic is not verified. Still, quite a sign for how the actual enforcement of this shit is going to pan out
EDIT: nvm, apparently THQ nordic is not verified. Still, quite a sign for how the actual enforcement of this shit is going to pan out
Wherever the patriarchy exists men will take advantage of women. Japan is extremely patriarchal.
If we include all those with high-school settings probably we are talking of more than 50%.
I wish I didn't know that. But yes. There is. And I'm absolutely disgusted when I remember it exists.There's something called toddlercon?
I guess some people like their 10,000 year old dragons? Otherwise, this is fairly straightforward topic.
There's something called toddlercon?
Even the name by itself is terrifying
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If someone is trying to rebrand something that is an illness at the end of the day these people are not being sincere, I can agree with you on that. However, how would you solve this problem? This is a difficult thing to discuss but there needs to be therapy available for people who are genuinely struggling with those thoughts and genuinely don't want to engage in that shit. Multiple European governments have endorsed such an approach to help prevent child abuse, by setting up confidential services, because anything that can protect as many children as possible is worth doing.
Even the name by itself is terrifying
WHAT THE FUCK, I did not need to read this today, humans were a mistake
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Even the name by itself is terrifying
Okay, seriously, how is it that Japan has gone so long without any other nation calling them out on allowing stuff like this to be sold on their high streets en-mass. This ain't even trying to hide it. This shit should be unacceptable for a first world nation.
What does MAP stand for in this context?
Had to Urban Dictionary this myself. It's apparently "minor attracted person".
It goes without saying any issues you have with yourself across a whole range of medical/behavioural problems need to be dealt with by professionals and possibly even the authorities where necessary.
The poster I replied to was talking about this trend for people on social media to now identify themselves as MAPs. As I said there is zero need for that to be done when using social media to do what the majority of people do - Retweet animal gifs, talk about tv shows, games, movies, the weather, sports and the list goes on. One has to question why many of these avatars want to use their bio to say such things.
So of course suspicion arises when you aim to seek a less "fanged" word than paedophile to identify yourself and presumably identify yourself to others. I only found out what MAP meant when Tumblr banned porn as apparently there was a sizeable community on there and one of the ways which many identify themselves to others for getting attention is using MAP. As in follow this blog if you are interested in/contact me if you are interested in.
When you're a paedophile there are victims other than yourself whether directly or indirectly. Minors cannot consent so no civilization should tolerate exposure to and/or acceptance of paedophilia. Which is the huge issue with proclaiming if it's not a literal human being, but something like animation, it simply doesn't count. That plays into normalizing the concept of overly sexualizing minors.
So for anyone ready to proclaim "alcoholics anonymous" support networks exist on Twitter or something, yeah, sure, but addiction to drugs doesn't inherently have secondary victims other than yourself. Your behaviour whilst on drugs can vary, but while some might have empathy for an alcoholic who is depressed and mainly destroying their own liver, most have less empathy for an alcoholic who also beats their wife and states violence and aggression aren't their fault.
Paedophilia involves you sexualizing others who cannot consent, so you are never the sole victim and this is why zero tolerance has to be in effect. Paedophiles need to be handled in society, sure, but that's not or should not be the responsibility of Twitter or other public social spaces, especially where minors are involved. So I simply cannot accept the poster earlier suggesting Twitter has to actively be more sympathetic to anyone describing themself publicly as a MAP.
Hmm... Well the description in a vacuum is fine in its own if it helps people with this problem feel more willing to seek help.
But if its gonna be mostly associated with child porn artists it's probably not gonna do that. It's gonna be a gateway to trying to normalise it. The first time someone hears this word shouldn't be from a loli artist community.
Chibi is the intentional simplification of characters or objects to look cute. It's no different than say-Bobble head figurines.Can people clarify what loli and shota are? Can't loli just be chibi versions of characters? For example, is this loli or is there a difference between chibi and loli?
I don't care about this stuff, but I could see some segments of the animenet being hurt by this, especially creators.
Loli/Shota is drawing characters with the looks and mannerisms of someone or thing that is 13 years or younger. You are EXPLICITLY depicting characters that display traits that make them come off as a young child.
That's just a chibi art style which are characters drawn in a cutesy minature way.Can people clarify what loli and shota are? Can't loli just be chibi versions of characters? For example, is this loli or is there a difference between chibi and loli?
I don't care about this stuff, but I could see some segments of the animenet being hurt by this, especially creators.
Loli is another word for "little girl" and Shōta is "little boy".
An example:
Turns out Mark Kern still has a Twitter account so uh yeah looking forward to enforcement literally doing, like, anything for once
I would suggest a lot of avatars on this very forum send out worrying signs.
If you're an adult with an avatar of a very young anime child you should be on a watch list.
It's very creepy.
If you're an adult with an avatar of a very young anime child you should be on a watch list.
It's very creepy.
Okay calm down I doubt random people with like Mob from Mob Psycho 100 avatars or Kid Gohan avatars should be on a watch list.
First example from a random poster on last page:
And images like this are all over the site.
Disgusting.
