Transwhat's a terf? i keep seeing it pop up, but mostly just in terms of rowling lately
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feministwhat's a terf? i keep seeing it pop up, but mostly just in terms of rowling lately
From one of the posts linked in the OPwhat's a terf? i keep seeing it pop up, but mostly just in terms of rowling lately
...was it? I watched that movie, but there was no explicit romantic connection indicated between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, not that I noticed.
Or that time Hermoine wanted to stand up for elf rights and gets laughed at about it.She was never progressive, I don't know why people thought that. Wishful thinking?
Remember the bankers? Who totally weren't inspired by Jewish caricatures.
Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist
A feminist who really hates intersectionality/trans people
What the fuck... this is a Soros conspiracy now too? Why cant people just let each other be ffs.
Look up mumsnet. Basically an Internet forum ostensibly for moms, but as reasonable members fled to facebook and other websites, the loudest transphobic voices got louder and by virtue of being the most visible, the most credible.I thought she was going full TERF a while ago. Also what's up with seemingly otherwise sensible Brits having issues with trans people? Graham Linehan's also gone down this gross road. (although I guess he's Irish).
I look forward to rereading this limp post next year when she does this yet again and someone decides they want to play the devils fool for the dayIm not good at using twitter, but is she just following them?, we KNOW Rowling made really big series of book that had great emphasys on supporting minorities.
Maybe she just follows them because of a meme, but didnt reallize they were anti-trans, I know I followed a couple of bad instagrams becuase I needed to follow them to see a meme that was sent to me.
Unless she's retweeting those comments or supportintg them in an way, I think people are just overreacting.
With the in-universe excuse that they actually enjoy being slaves.Or that time Hermoine wanted to stand up for elf rights and gets laughed at about it.
No, a follow IS an endorsement. Fuck Rowling and fuck TERFs (who aren't feminists, you can't exclude an entire class of women and be a feminist).
Expellurum transphobe
Or that time Hermoine wanted to stand up for elf rights and gets laughed at about it.
Fifteen years later, when he was done with our marriage and finally ready to tell the truth, he wrote me, "When I was running 'Buffy,' I was surrounded by beautiful, needy, aggressive young women. It felt like I had a disease, like something from a Greek myth. Suddenly I am a powerful producer and the world is laid out at my feet and I can't touch it." But he did touch it. He said he understood, "I would have to lie — or conceal some part of the truth — for the rest of my life," but he did it anyway, hoping that first affair, "would be ENOUGH, that THEN we could move on and outlast it."
Probably just more a case of gay/lesbian being a bit more accepted in the UK so the bigots focus on trans people instead, whereas the US is still struggling with just the LG parts of LGBTQIs there a reason why TERFs seem to be more common in Britain than the US or other developed western European countries? Is it really just the prominence of mumsnet, or is there more to it than that?
Obviously there is rampant transphobia in the US too, but usually from the typical sources that are also anti-gay and anti-feminist. US has TERFs too, but seems like they are less prominent here.
Also the irony in using your experiences of being oppressed primarily to...oppress other people.
I'm not sure that really explains it, especially given the prevalence of gay/lesbian transphobes.Probably just more a case of gay/lesbian being a bit more accepted in the UK so the bigots focus on trans people instead, whereas the US is still struggling with just the LG parts of LGBTQ
They're exactly the same types of people, just a bit more cautious to speak up about gay people
Seems from /leftypol/
Purely personal experience speaking here, but I don't believe the UK has a significant difference in terms of anti-LGBT sentiment, just that generally they're more careful in how they express it. That's all I was trying to sayI'm not sure that really explains it, especially given the prevalence of gay/lesbian transphobes.
Of course gay people can be bigots, but their bigotry isn't arising from general LGB bigotry. I'm sure that some of the British transphobia comes from people who hate LGBT people, but only feel comfortable expressing that hate against trans people. But there is plenty of transphobia coming from places that cannot be explained by typical anti-gay sentiment.Purely personal experience speaking here, but I don't believe the UK has a significant difference in terms of anti-LGBT sentiment, just that generally they're more careful in how they express it. That's all I was trying to say
Also gay people can still be bigots
ah thank you! explains why ive moslty seen it popup towards rowling
Yeah but it was probably just a slip up! Again!
I mean the people she follows and likes on Twitter are a good place to start then.
To be honest, I hadn't really noticed how many British terfs there were so I had a brief look at some articles (just the first few on google, nothing particularly academic), and they suggest that its some combo of the media giving high profile terfs more exposure (talk shows, tabloids etc) and mumsnet.Of course gay people can be bigots, but their bigotry isn't arising from general LGB bigotry. I'm sure that some of the British transphobia comes from people who hate LGBT people, but only feel comfortable expressing that hate against trans people. But there is plenty of transphobia coming from places that cannot be explained by typical anti-gay sentiment.
Did she ever comment on that when the likes were originally noticed?
Of course not because she knows the moment that she comes out and says it she'll finally lose all plausible deniability.Did she ever comment on that when the likes were originally noticed?
If I remember correctly, her PR person said she just didn't know how to twitter and that it was a mistake.
She's been doing this for YEARS.Thank you.
While I can believe that -- my friend once pointed out that I liked an alt-right tweet once because that caused it to appear in her timeline and I was horrified -- it's hard to deny there's a pattern here.
That being said, I just can't bring myself to call her a "transphobic cunt" as was done earlier in the thread. I would very much like her to make some sort of comment on the situation though as the longer she doesn't, the more suspect it gets.
It's OK, it's just a strange phenomenon that seems unique to Britain. I'm not sure why TERFs are more prominent in Britain either, that's why I was asking about it.To be honest, I hadn't really noticed how many British terfs there were so I had a brief look at some articles (just the first few on google, nothing particularly academic), and they suggest that its some combo of the media giving high profile terfs more exposure (talk shows, tabloids etc) and mumsnet.
So my bad, I learned something new today. It's not something that's ever brought up in work, and the only politics I follow is second hand through American friends so it's typically US-centric.
I haven't watched day time TV here for at least a decade because it's absolute trash, but honestly the talk shows can be really gross.It's OK, it's just a strange phenomenon that seems unique to Britain. I'm not sure why TERFs are more prominent in Britain either, that's why I was asking about it.
Like in the US the people pushing the 'trans people are trying to assault you in the women's bathroom' bullshit are usually right wing conservative religious groups. But in Britain, there are a ton of more left-wing, 'feminist', and even lesbian groups pushing that kind of rhetoric, which typically does not happen in the US (though I'm sure there are examples).
That sounds pretty awful. If the daytime TV over there is anything like your print media then I'm sure it's plenty trash.I haven't watched day time TV here for at least a decade because it's absolute trash, but honestly the talk shows can be really gross.
I do remember a few years back they pitted 2 trans women against 2 "gender critical women", and I believe they did something similar with Laura Kate Dale not too long ago?
Daytime and tabloids are basically one and the same so yes lolThat sounds pretty awful. If the daytime TV over there is anything like your print media then I'm sure it's plenty trash.
Somewhat unfair to say she never did anything with it. She wrote a movie which came out 8 months ago in which it was a pretty central plot point.
You're literally being the person who goes "Well they technically didn't say the N word so why are you calling them a racist?" right now.Thank you.
While I can believe that -- my friend once pointed out that I liked an alt-right tweet once because that caused it to appear in her timeline and I was horrified -- it's hard to deny there's a pattern here.
That being said, I just can't bring myself to call her a "transphobic cunt" as was done earlier in the thread. I would very much like her to make some sort of comment on the situation though as the longer she doesn't, the more suspect it gets.
You're literally being the person who goes "Well they technically didn't say the N word so why are you calling them a racist?" right now.
Stop.
How do you feel about her never responding to being called out for this, having her reps say it was a slip of the finger and then her continually following more and more people who don't post anything other than anti-trans hatred?
Oh hey, it's you again defending awful things.Thank you.
While I can believe that -- my friend once pointed out that I liked an alt-right tweet once because that caused it to appear in her timeline and I was horrified -- it's hard to deny there's a pattern here.
That being said, I just can't bring myself to call her a "transphobic cunt" as was done earlier in the thread. I would very much like her to make some sort of comment on the situation though as the longer she doesn't, the more suspect it gets.
BuT SHe DiDN't SpEcifICalLY sAY SHe HatEs TrANs PEOplE sO wHY ArE yOu BEiNg mEAn tO HeR?How do you feel about her never responding to being called out for this, having her reps say it was a slip of the finger and then her continually following more and more people who don't post anything other than anti-trans hatred?
I did, it starts with "a follow isn't an endorsement", but people are still reading it like that.
And no, its not about trans people, but the whole message of the books its about minorities, and one of the most beloved characters on the series was gay, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on this one
There is more than a pattern, there is outright support via consistent and constant endorsement.I literally said there's clearly a pattern.
I'm sorry if you disagree with my opinion that I won't personally be writing her off based on follows on Twitter. I understand why you would. But I just don't agree.
If you have a problem with me personally, please PM me instead of being abrasive in your reply to me as if I was being argumentative about this topic.