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U.S. Army develops school shooting simulation to help teachers
- Thread starter lupianwolf
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Wh... What in the fuck? Just.... what?
Edit. I guess, this can be useful in a way, but they should have really leave the part in which you are the teacher, not the gunner camera.
Edit 2. It's frigging sad you guys reached this point with your gun violence
Edit. I guess, this can be useful in a way, but they should have really leave the part in which you are the teacher, not the gunner camera.
Edit 2. It's frigging sad you guys reached this point with your gun violence
Oh sure. School shootings started with dumbass teenagers modding DOOM to look like their school and wanting to make it real.
Now the Army will just fucking do it for you.
This seems in about as poor taste as possible.
Now the Army will just fucking do it for you.
This seems in about as poor taste as possible.
Don't take away the guns from us, just teach us how what to do in the next mass shooting, that'll do!
This is screwed up and absurd to the point where it's kinda funny how short-sighted they are. What were they thinking?
Not just that make a video-game for would be mass shooters to try out!
Oh I see. Well, then it's just frigging sad that something like this has to exist at all :(
I don't want my gun rights taken away. The criminals and crazies will still have them.
You can have guns. No human needs an AR-15 though. What you gonna protect your house from 23 simultaneous home invaders?
I wouldn't expect it to be more I'd hope they make sure the chances of it being leaked and cracked to be minimal.
You all would prefer that teachers get no training on how to best survive an active shooter situation?
Yes, it sucks that the reality is that something like this is necessary, but better to have teachers trained on best practices for survival, as opposed to saying "too bad, so sad, if a shooter does show up, you're ON YOUR OWN!!!"
Using games as training tools is also not a new thing for the US Army. They had their own custom SNES game.
lol. Same. US Marine here. 2 more years! My enlistment is somewhere between the best decision I've ever made, and a lot of times, the worst.
Sucks that its come to this.
I would never vote for him, but I am so fucking grateful Howard actually had the vision and courage to enact sweeping gun laws in Australia.
Watching Americans insisting it wouldn't work in their country just seems like the height of denial
Watching Americans insisting it wouldn't work in their country just seems like the height of denial
I'm right there with you. The Army has done a lot for me as far as paying for school but it's also been a huge double edged sword. I'll be so happy when mine is up in 2019 and I no longer have to deal with the asinine authority system and the zealots that I have to work with.
This seem ill advised and missguided, it's just a matter of time before it leaks to the public and becomes a popular twitch meme game.
I'm working under the assumption that the active shooter role is being assigned to military personnel or training coordinator or whoever is giving the demo to the teacher(s), while the teachers take on the roles of the teachers. If the idea is to give the teachers some kind of experience to fall back on, I can see how this might be useful. The options the teachers have are the same things they tell the teachers to do in these situations (bar door, have kids line up along wall; my wife is a teacher and this is what they practice). I think in a panicked setting, it might be easier to fall back on this type of experience than to remember a video.
Obviously this seems incredible morbid and in bad taste, but if it saves a life who gives a shit?
Obviously this seems incredible morbid and in bad taste, but if it saves a life who gives a shit?
How about we don't spend millions on developing a game to teach teachers how to protect our children from gun violence and instead spend it on trying to fix the reason we have all this gun violence? You know the guns?
Maybe after a while, but there would still be some popular twitch shitheel that gets attention by streaming it.
Because it's a really shitty way to try to keep people safe. I can't imagine a school shooting simulator like this actually helping someone in a real world situation.
And it feels like an easy excuse to ignore the real solution to school shootings, which is gun control.
I don't see nothing wrong this, this isn't a commercial game, it's something designed to train teachers in case of a school shooting which by the way it's something that will happen again. It's really sad that the US has to create this training tool instead of fixing the gun laws that let anyone buy a military rifle, but that is the US right now.
Because they'll just get the guns anyway? In an age where you can order heroin or any illegal drug in existence off the internet shipping from another country what makes you think you can't order guns online?
I guess you're right
Something as simple as a buyback program that also gives amnesty to those with illegal firearms would likely do wonders to get many guns off the streets
Since when does the army have anything to do with gun control?
It's the equivalent of telling a rape victim "Here's how to not get raped again: Keep your legs closed and try not to look like you're asking for it." It's asinine.
The issue is probably that instead of increasing our already balooning military budget we use funds to properly solve issues or shit even go to other programs that are being cut. Shit like this shows how much money the military fucking wastes.
How does this help? You can learn the natural choke points and points of egress by walking round the actual school. It'll have zero impact on helping them keep their cool when a real shooter turns up.
What exactly does having a player running around firing bursts from an HK416 add?
Teaching schools techniques on how to keep children is nothing like that and in my town we already did drills for shootings with the local department.
Creating tools intended to keep people safe = "inflicting painful memories"
I suppose we could always try closing our eyes and just wishing away the bad things?
I suppose we could always try closing our eyes and just wishing away the bad things?
When the US military runs a simulation, why does it have soldiers play the role of enemy forces attacking the US military?
Why do those "enemy forces" usually run through specific scenarios that those being trained are supposed to respond to?
Why do those "enemy forces" sometimes change things up, so that those getting trained don't know what to expect?
I mean, it's pretty obvious.
What's crazy are the sheer number of people in this thread that are 100% against teachers getting trained on how to respond to an active shooter.
Yes, real life drills can be run, but they are much more costly and time consuming, especially since you'll need actors to play the children. This is a tool which can train a larger number of teachers, cheaper and more quickly.
No one likes the fact that school shootings happen. And training people to survive doesn't mean other avenues to prevent shootings should be avoided.
But holy crap and folks wanting to throw teachers into the deep end with zero training.
That is a myth. Unless your referring to some shooting other than Columbine that I'm not aware of.
Aside from that however, I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand it's pretty morbid, but It's not being sold as a commercial product is it? Though I don't see why a game is needed to prepare teachers for this, especially since I imagine this could never truly prepare someone for an actual shooting.
