U.S. violates JCPOA; Trump withdraws from Iran nuclear deal & reimposes economic sanctions (UPDATE)

mercenar1e

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Im sure Israel is delighted with the decision. They're way too involved in shaping American foreign policy and are a serious problem.
 

Aselith

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You are in a thread about Trump just ending a deal that he promised to ruin during his campaign!
His party wasn't involved in this decision. It was entirely up to him as it was put in place by executive action. He also promised to repeal and replace during the election and got pretty badly manhandled.
 

Omegasquash

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Gee, it's almost like Trump is easily swayed by propaganda, and that our global competitors are only going to benefit from this. One wonders where the connection might be.
 

Aselith

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And that is why America is rapidly declining and will soon no longer be able to exert influence as it pleases. Our government doesn't care to do right by us or the international community because we don't care enough to make them answer to us.
They care about the voting population which is as you so rightly pointed out the majority. 100% voting doesn't make them care. Threats to their seat makes them care.
 

Ac30

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The only thing that would work on republicans is mass targeted violence against them and their families. I'm convinced that fear for their physical well being is the only thing that would get through to them.

That's how far their higher order thinking has deteriorated. That's how little they care.

Protest? They dismiss it all as fake. They are evil.

I call my GOP rep every week. Not once have I gotten a sincere response that addressedthe points I raised, no matter how firmly I present and limit the topic of discussion.

And they've been this way for as long as I can remember, in my 30 years on this earth. They don't care. They never have
bruh
 

UberTag

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So from my understanding, dumbass is going to pull out of the deal and "negotiate" a new deal with U.K./Europe?

Could Europe just repackage the old deal, claim its new and get him to sign it?
Include a couple paragraphs about how Trump is the greatest dealmaker ever, should win all the Nobel Prizes, keep the rest of the language the same and keep Iran on board... sounds like all that should be needed here. Maybe throw in a military parade or two in Trump's honor.
 

Xando

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Trump's support has sat around 35% basically his entire presidency. We know that's basically his hardcore base that will never turn on him ever.
Honest question, don't you think the 65% should take responsibility to ensure the 35% can't decide what decisions are made for the 100%?
 

DoggosPuppersWoofers

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What's there to be surprised about? That is literally the response you would have to expect when you threaten people's very existence. When you can't even bring yourself to condemn racism. When you call liberals libtards that destroy the country. Hate begets hate.

Just to clarify, I don't condone violence or think that post was very smart. But it is to be expected when the right wing keeps pushing their hate, talking about civil war and shit.
 

rambis

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It failed in that form.

But the underlying sabotage has continued unabated. Through the tax bill, through executive orders, through the courts, through state actions, through technocratic sabotage, etc.
Yeah but the point is that they still can't repeal core tenants of the legislation despite years of promising to do so. Its a failure no matter how much they try to dress it up. The courts generally are in favor of the ACA and whatever is done executively can be undone by the next executive. Its legislation that stands tall and they've failed spectacularly on that front.
So you have no counter arguments? How is your democracy fine when it is more occupied in serving the upper 1% rather than the people?



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No, You clearly don't know what you are blabbing about and its not worth it to continue down this path.
 

Cow Mengde

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His party wasn't involved in this decision. It was entirely up to him as it was put in place by executive action. He also promised to repeal and replace during the election and got pretty badly manhandled.
Trump is the President with Republicans controlling everything.
They got their tax cut.
ACA is being sabotaged left and right even if they weren't able to completely destroy it, but it'll happen eventually.
The economy will go south in 2019 even if Democrats win later this year, so people will just turn around and vote Republican again.
Climate change data is being wiped out and science is being ignored for profits.
Strict environmental controls are being taken away again.
Strict laws that were in place after the 2008 economic disasters are slowly being wiped out.

Yeah, damn, Republicans are losing everywhere and running scared.
 
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The only thing that would work on republicans is mass targeted violence against them and their families. I'm convinced that fear for their physical well being is the only thing that would get through to them.

That's how far their higher order thinking has deteriorated. That's how little they care.

Protest? They dismiss it all as fake. They are evil.

I call my GOP rep every week. Not once have I gotten a sincere response that addressedthe points I raised, no matter how firmly I present and limit the topic of discussion.

And they've been this way for as long as I can remember, in my 30 years on this earth. They don't care. They never have
Time and time again you make posts like this and you sound more deranged than the last time.
 

KHarvey16

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This thread looks a little like a mental illness menagerie. Some of you need to talk to a professional or schedule another appointment.
 

Aselith

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Trump is the President with Republicans controlling everything.
They got their tax cut.
ACA is being sabotaged left and right even if they weren't able to completely destroy it, but it'll happen eventually.
The economy will go south in 2019 even if Democrats win later this year, so people will just turn around and vote Republican again.
Climate change data is being wiped out and science is being ignored for profits.
Strict environmental controls are being taken away again.
Strict laws that were in place after the 2008 economic disasters are slowly being wiped out.

Yeah, damn, Republicans are losing everywhere and running scared.
Must be why so many are not seeking reelection. Winning!
 

RogerK

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The only thing that would work on republicans is mass targeted violence against them and their families. I'm convinced that fear for their physical well being is the only thing that would get through to them.
I am not advocating for violence, I am saying republicans are not receptive to anything other than the most base desires.
That is quite a contradiction.

EDIT: After reading it a bit more slowly. I think I see what you're TRYING to say. You're not actually calling for violence to happen, you're saying that you think this is the only thing that they would respond to. The way your post is worded is a bit open to interpretation (can be taken as a "call to action") and I would probably edit it to make your point clearer. Even then it's probably best not to post something like that.
 
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Karasseram

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The only thing that would work on republicans is mass targeted violence against them and their families. I'm convinced that fear for their physical well being is the only thing that would get through to them.
Sounds like a solution! Turn into ISIS to stop the republicans not like that will make us infinitely worse than them at all!
 

Bitsmurch

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Oct 30, 2017
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First, please stop perpetuating the fiction that Trump is acting strategically. Trump has no strategy. If there is a strategy with the name "Trump" attached to it, it is ghostwritten, just like his books.

Second, the strategy the you describe, such as it is, depends on other parties having enough trust in you to seek and continue negotiations. Eroding that trust repeatedly leaves you with no room to bargain, like a bankrupt casino owner seeking loans from banks whom he's already stiffed multiple times.

Third, Trump is not primarily responsible for the current situation in North Korea. The President of South Korea ran on a liberal platform of negotiating peace, and has pursued that to the fullest, while appeasing Trump's ego when necessary to keep the ball rolling. The North Korean regime has long sought international stability, and now will have it. China, through its mediation, appears to be increasing its influence in the region still further. Compared to these factors, Trump is nothing.
He is though,

Just because you don't understand the strategy doesn't mean it isn't one.
 
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Time and time again you make posts like this and you sound more deranged than the last time.
Saying that Republicans aren't receptive to nonviolent discourse isn't a deranged call to violence. It's a call to stomp out their political power with urgency.

Don't waste your time reasoning with them. Just kick them out and drag them into civilization
 

Addie

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Are you even reading what I'm saying?
I get your outrage, but you've got to slow down here.

Okay, assume they don't care. That's probably a pretty good assumption. There might be a Republican dog-catcher in West Virginia who's a half-decent guy, but you're basically right with Congress. The point isn't to convince them; it's to replace them.

It is possible to achieve that goal without advocating for violence against political adversaries and their families.