Ubisoft thinks there is probably at least two years left in the generation

[Nirolak]

On Ubisoft's fiscal call, they noted that:

1.) Since the PS4 Pro came out last year, and the Xbox One X this year, Ubisoft suspects there's at least two years left in this generation.

2.) They say they don't have new information on that (at least that they can provide publicly), so you would have to ask Sony and Microsoft for more specifics.

3.) Ubisoft is very happy that Microsoft and Sony opted to refresh their consoles by doing hardware upgrades instead of releasing accessories like the Kinect and the PlayStation Move, since Ubisoft can take advantage of any hardware upgrades (or even generation shifts) that Microsoft and Sony release easily given their position.

 

[Rezsolution]

Does anyone not find that a bit off? I mean, a hardware refresh with 2 years left? What's the point?

 

[LewieP]

Sounds about right to me. Probably more than that.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

Even in the optimistic scenario where PS5/Xbox Two come out in 2019 I think there'll definitely still be some support through 2020, so that makes a lot of sense. Seems like they're thinking what most of us are. I was thinking 2019 too at first but as the past couple of years have gone on I think it probably will be 2020 for the new consoles. We're definitely in the second half of the gen by now.

 

[Nirolak]

Does anyone not find that a bit off? I mean, a hardware refresh with 2 years left? What's the point?

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Well, if you view it as a mid-generation upgrade:

2013: PlayStation 4
2016: PlayStation 4 Pro
2019: PlayStation 5

 

[Cheesemeister]

Only two? With how few games I've bought thus far, I could easily go for another 5 years.

 

[catboy]

Does anyone not find that a bit off? I mean, a hardware refresh with 2 years left? What's the point?

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It's for enthusiast gamers/Xbox fans, I don't really think it's that unreasonable.

 

[Desma]

Yeah, I think so too

 

[BadWolf]

Hopefully more than that.

 

[Einbroch]

I'd bank more on a fall 2020 release than a 2019 release, but depending on technology costs it could very well be 2019.

 

[AlmostMilk]

I feel like we have reached the end of generations though. Maybe we will hear some hints about Sony working on something in 2 years but I doubt we will see another console anytime soon.

 

[WillyFive]

Does anyone not find that a bit off? I mean, a hardware refresh with 2 years left? What's the point?

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Without the hardware refresh, I figured this would be it's last year before new hardware next year.

 

[Heckler456]

Sounds about right. I'm gonna say, in terms of Sony, Death Stranding's probably what caps this generation off. Or MAYBE From's new IP. So 2020/2021.

 

[TripleBee]

I'm really interested to see what the next XBOX is.
I feel like what the PS5 is going to be seems pretty clear - a more powerful PlayStation with hopefully some BC. Probably another cross media bar UI.

Xbox feels up in the air. Aggressive and expensive. Upgrade-able ? Run Windows 10 and plays Steam games ? Who knows.

 

[Hindle]

I think we see the Xbox Two in 2019.

 

[Deleted member 1326]

Does anyone not find that a bit off? I mean, a hardware refresh with 2 years left? What's the point?

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It's bad for microsoft that would have to either be a year late or launch in 2 years.
For Sony it works out all right, 3 years.
But I guess it depends if significant tech upgrade will be available for cheap.

 

[LewieP]

I could see Sony releasing a PS4 Pro v2 in a couple of years at a similar price to the current model, but it can do everything in native 4k and then some.

 

[Yerffej]

Well, if you view it as a mid-generation upgrade:

2013: PlayStation 4
2016: PlayStation 4 Pro
2019: PlayStation 4

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Wow a true cycle.

 

[AuthenticM]

I think the PS5 is coming out in 2020.

 

[Duxxy3]

Yep, sounds about right to me. Early 2019 we'll get the announcements. Fall 2019 we'll get the releases. PS5 for sure. If XB1X takes off, MS may stick with that. But my guess is that we'll get the Xbox 4 (if MS were properly counting) by the end of 2020. Nintendo is on their own timeline.

 

[Bundy]

I think we see the Xbox Two in 2019.

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Xbox X in 2017
Xbox Next in 2019?
What's the point of the Xbox X then?

 

[Snake Eater]

Makes very little business sense for Sony to not ride the PS4 money train as long as productions get cheaper and cheaper

 

[Bundy]

I think the PS5 is coming out in 2020.

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Let's hope so.

 

[Kamisori]

Even in the optimistic scenario where PS5/Xbox Two come out in 2019 I think there'll definitely still be some support through 2020, so that makes a lot of sense.

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Or just a new "refresh" of the current consoles marketed as a new generation (fully back-compatible, just the new games which aren't compatible with the previous consoles).

 

[TripleBee]

Plenty of people buy a $1000 iphone every two years to look at facebook.

A new xbox for $500 after two years is hardly insane. Especially if it's fully BC.

 

[Hydeus]

It's gonna be a long generation so...

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Yeah that's probably about right.

 

[RagManX]

I figured 2020 at the earliest for the next hardware generation. Can't imagine a PS5/XBone2 in 2019.

 

[Magicgamer]

I hope not. I'd be ready to buy a new console in 2020 at the earliest.

 

[Flarin]

Says the company still releasing games on the fucking Wii. I think this gen will die off extremely slow due to adoption rate. I know I'm not dying for a new system anytime soon. I'm completely satisfied with the games we're getting right now.

 

[janusff]

PS5 in 2019
XB2 in 2020

Book it.

 

[HyGogg]

Beyond Good and Evil moved to PS5 confirmed.

 

[Einbroch]

Makes very little business sense for Sony to not ride the PS4 money train as long as productions get cheaper and cheaper

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I think their release schedule depends on two things: Microsoft's next step and cost of technology. If Microsoft releases X2 in 2019 you better believe Sony will get a PS5 out in 2019 or at the worst early 2020.

 

[DVCY201]

Huh...Well, that's kinda disappointing. I feel like I haven't gotten as many games this generation. I mean, some of my favourite games are practically ports

 

[Weebos]

At least two years for sure. Probably three in my opinion. Frankly, I would be fine with even more.

 

[Alexander DeLarge]

Does anyone not find that a bit off? I mean, a hardware refresh with 2 years left? What's the point?

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Thank God. I'm sick of these CPUs holding everything back. Ryzen will absolutely be used in next generation consoles and that means affordable high performance.

Microsoft is a year behind. Ps5 in 2019, Xbox 4 in 2020. I bet they'll phase out the base models and let the Pro/One X stick around a bit longer.

 

[Nirolak]

Says the company still releasing games on the fucking Wii. I think this gen will die off extremely slow due to adoption rate. I know I'm not dying for a new system anytime soon. I'm completely satisfied with the games we're getting right now.

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Well, I mean, you identified the scenario that makes this work.

You can sell a PS5 to enthusiasts in 2019 while still selling PS4s and lots of PS4 games.

After all, consoles usually only sell 10 to maybe 15 million tops in their first year, so cross-gen is inevitable.

 

[Platy]

I think these consoles will have the biggest lifespan by far... like announcement at half of 2020 at BEST

 

[ShiningBash]

Does anyone not find that a bit off? I mean, a hardware refresh with 2 years left? What's the point?

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I think it reflects new options for hardware makers as a result of falling costs. In the past, a few years was enough time for component prices to drop enough for the console size to shrink. Sony and Microsoft have demonstrated that a few years is now enough time to provide a significant graphical upgrade, which would've previously been priced beyond the average consumer.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

Or just a new "refresh" of the current consoles marketed as a new generation (fully back-compatible, just the new games which aren't compatible with the previous consoles).

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Yeah, for sure. I don't know too much about Xbox very well but I think PS5 will be an almost PC-like upgrade to PS4. Same architecture but beefier with full BC and games that only run on its specs. I also think Nintendo will be similar and have their next console just be an upgraded Switch.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Makes very little business sense for Sony to not ride the PS4 money train as long as productions get cheaper and cheaper

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PS4 will be still around after PS5 launch. They don't lose anything by launching the PS5 in 2019, it helps them to keep momentum.

Edit: Also, starting a new gen two years after Microsoft's mid-gen update will benefit them.

 

[Emka]

Sounds about right, hopefully more than that even.

 

[Snake Eater]

I know for sure I'm waiting for the PS5 Pro, will give me a chance to finally clear the backlog

 

[Ahasverus]

Sounds about right. I'd say holiday 2020 will still be good enough for 8th Gen users.

 

[Nightengale]

Makes very little business sense for Sony to not ride the PS4 money train as long as productions get cheaper and cheaper

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I disagree. It's a mouthful to explain but from my own experience, 2019 is a logical timing business wise.

 

[FroMonk]

I think it's probably not far off to say PS5/XB4 in 2019, in which case I think I'm going to be at a crossroads to either go all console or all PC. I'll likely have a little one by then and I won't be able to afford a new console and upgrading my PC, and my rig is going to get pretty long in the tooth by that point (i7 4770/gtx 970).

 

[N.Domixis]

Even in the optimistic scenario where PS5/Xbox Two come out in 2019 I think there'll definitely still be some support through 2020, so that makes a lot of sense. Seems like they're thinking what most of us are. I was thinking 2019 too at first but as the past couple of years have gone on I think it probably will be 2020 for the new consoles. We're definitely in the second half of the gen by now.

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I really doubt Xbox Two is in 2 years, they just release X

 

[The Pet of the Month]

I think we'll have new hardware by 2020, so sure. I don't mind.

Now they said they don't have any new information to share? That's just made me even more curious.

 

[Benji]

Sounds about right. 2019 is a very likely launch date for PS5. Regardless no way we don't have new hardware by 2020

 

[Mediking]

Japanese developers are just starting to get used to PS4... so PS5 can wait.