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Ubisoft thinks there is probably at least two years left in the generation
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Agreed, 2020 being the latest I see us going without new consoles.
Profit. Whatever they sell of the X is going to make them money.
Also with the X1X and X1S, MS have restored a lot of goodwill that was lost during the launch of the original vanilla model. People now respect Xbox from a hardware viewpoint.
Do you want higher/more stable frame rates in your games or even (checkerboard) 1440p/4K right now? If so get it.
I only play exclusives and I got the Pro so I would get the definitive experience (until emulation or Ps5 backwards compatibility becomes a thing). Don't regret it at all and I only play 4-5 games a year on it.
I can't believe it's been 5 years already...I know technically we've seen games need more powerful hardware, but it just feels like the generation is still in its infancy. Part of that might be the first few years still had such a heavy focus on last generation consoles. A lot of games had been scaled back so they could make PS3/360 versions as well.
Another aspect might be I think new hardware would be hard to justify, because games are not all about graphics. We got the highly successful, yet weaker hardware in the Switch right now, and it's because the games are just good.
Another aspect might be I think new hardware would be hard to justify, because games are not all about graphics. We got the highly successful, yet weaker hardware in the Switch right now, and it's because the games are just good.
So in those two years will Sam return from the shadows or is he completely hidden for this generation.
Hey if this generation still has life in it then maybe do Pro/X patches for R6 Siege Ubi...
I'm cool with this generation ending ASAP though if it means boxes with actual good CPUs in them.
I'm cool with this generation ending ASAP though if it means boxes with actual good CPUs in them.
2019 or 2020 for PS5 sounds great to me. Curious to see what Guerilla and ND can do on better hardware. My gut tells me it would make sense if the PS5 was back compatible with PS4, doubt either camp would want to lose their install bases.
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I definitely think platform holders will move game releases to next gen consoles after 2019 as well as major publishers. What they are making and announcing now and next year will probably be our lot until next gen releases except for the obvious yearly franchises.
The consoles might not release in 2019 but the major franchises and new IP won't be making an appearance on current consoles past 2018. I don't think Forza 8 for example will be back until a next gen Xbox.
The consoles might not release in 2019 but the major franchises and new IP won't be making an appearance on current consoles past 2018. I don't think Forza 8 for example will be back until a next gen Xbox.
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I have a PS4 pro. Unless you can swap it for your OG PS4 paying very little money, I would wait it out.
Software is where the money is at, and if they sell PS5s, they can still sell PS4 software as it'll play better on it.
Their software will be playable on PS5, so that's a non-factor.
It´s more about install base than development costs though. The huge AAA games simply miss out on a massive amount of sales if they skip an entire generation. And i doubt Sony or any other publisher wants that.
The Wii U is an anomaly that barely counts IMO. It was such an embarrassing failure. Switch will probably surpass it in sales but the end of the fiscal year.
Exactly. Nirolak, you said that gen only lasted 4 years and therefore consoles could release quicker. Nintendo NEEDED to release the Switch early. Sony doesn't with the PS5 or whatever it's going to be. They could, but I really don't think there is a huge hunger for another generation already. Maybe in 3 years or so, but I'd be shocked if PS5 came out in 2019.
Edit: A lot gets lost in text form, so I hope this doesn't come off as aggressive or whatever. Just trying to say Sony and Nintendo's situations are quite different :)
Yeah. That's what I think too. TLOU2 ain't making it next year and that is definitely a PS4 title.
Even if two new consoles shipped in 2019, PS4 would b support for at least 2-3 years after launch. Idk about XB1.
Somehow I have my doubts on that. Mind you that we have been in this generation for about 4 years now, but even so, I feel like we are starting to migrate into a generation where brand new consoles might be more years apart than they have been (even though the wikipedia doesn't know if the Switch should be apart of this generation with the X1 and PS4 or apart of the next generation).
Especially considering that the Xbox One just launched, I feel as though we have a couple of good years with that before we even start to consider the next step (or if we might see a case where the Xbox One X will become the new norm and we start to see "Xbox One X titles").
A bit too early to say, but I feel like we don't need to consider that next generation of gaming quite yet. Later on for sure, but not for the immediate future.
Especially considering that the Xbox One just launched, I feel as though we have a couple of good years with that before we even start to consider the next step (or if we might see a case where the Xbox One X will become the new norm and we start to see "Xbox One X titles").
A bit too early to say, but I feel like we don't need to consider that next generation of gaming quite yet. Later on for sure, but not for the immediate future.
If you do not get one by the time GoW hits I would say wait for PS5.
Since this is Ubisoft making the call, I wonder what they're release roadmap for Beyond Good and Evil 2 looks like. Are they planning it to be PS4/XBO? Current and next gen versions? Definitely Next Gen?
I don't know guys... I mean, maybe it's just me, but... do we even need new hardware that soon? Like, I'm seeing games like Last of Us, God of War, Death Stranding and others on the horizon, and it just seems like we haven't seen what these consoles are fully capable of yet.
I mean, can we even realistically expect games to look much better than those, or feel like a huge leap forward next-gen? Will PS5/X2 even feel like a "next-gen" leap forward beyond native 4K and maybe better framerates? I'm honestly asking, because I'm not sure what to expect here, and I fear we might finally be hitting a point of diminishing returns.
I mean, can we even realistically expect games to look much better than those, or feel like a huge leap forward next-gen? Will PS5/X2 even feel like a "next-gen" leap forward beyond native 4K and maybe better framerates? I'm honestly asking, because I'm not sure what to expect here, and I fear we might finally be hitting a point of diminishing returns.
I am not buying Pro or X as l don't see them as a 'true' upgrade/new console.
I'm in for the next one though, be that 2019 or 2020.
Especially if there's a new game from Playground there as a launch title . . .
I'm in for the next one though, be that 2019 or 2020.
Especially if there's a new game from Playground there as a launch title . . .
I don't know if its just me but it feels like the PS4 isnt all that old. Either that or this generation has flown by so quickly. I'm in the same boat I feel like there so much more to look forward to this gen.
Ηaha, who can tell anymore when a gen start and end?
Nintendo has a new system in the market for how long, 6 months? it isn't new gen in power terms but in everything else it is.
Microsoft just released a new gen machine (consider the raw power alone) marketed as a mid gen refresh.
So, a new gen starts only with the ps5 on market or what? can anybody answer that because i think that this situation with the iterative machines is good for everyone, console builders, publishers and consumers.
Nintendo has a new system in the market for how long, 6 months? it isn't new gen in power terms but in everything else it is.
Microsoft just released a new gen machine (consider the raw power alone) marketed as a mid gen refresh.
So, a new gen starts only with the ps5 on market or what? can anybody answer that because i think that this situation with the iterative machines is good for everyone, console builders, publishers and consumers.
The generation is definitely flying by. I feel like it really didn't start hitting it's strike until last year. There is still definitely a lot to look forward to, usually when a generation is coming to a close you can feel it a bit, this time ain't one of those. We are still a ways out, wouldn't be surprised if this generation lasted longer than last generation.
To me, 2019 sounds only reasonable if the "next generation" is also another upgrade, i.e. we get to play our existing libraries from the start, (analogue to buying a new graphics card for PC, which afair is the argumentation they were going for when starting console revisions). Of course with the next upgrade, be it another revision of existing hardware or a new iteration (PS5/ Xbox 2), I also expect games ot not support the old platforms anymore, maybe not all games, but some.