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Ubisoft thinks there is probably at least two years left in the generation
- Thread starter Nirolak
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I think 2020 makes sense because we have reached a point where graphical upgrades will not be that apparent with new consoles. The gap from xbox x to a new xbox and ps4 pro to ps5 will be minimal. It will be like a mid gen upgrade. I think you will see crossgen titles for years untill maybe another mid gen refresh.
I totally agree with this.
I would like to add that the reason I am sure PS5 is 2019 is because isn't it the 25th anniversary of PlayStation the end of 2019? How else to celebrate then with a new console with big advertisements.
I would add then 2022: PlayStation 5 Pro
3nm might/should be mature then so makes sense from that point of view.
2020 any sooner and I feel like these companies are just leaving money on the table and rushing the generation. This generation with mid gen reiterations works for me and am content... let the tech grow and get cheaper before expecting us to shell out another $400-500 per system.
2 years is sensible given the weak sauce CPUs.
Much more than that and it'll a huge barrier like limited RAM and VRAM (especially on PS3) was last gen.
Much more than that and it'll a huge barrier like limited RAM and VRAM (especially on PS3) was last gen.
It will be more than 2. Both Sony and MS are interested in riding this gen as long as they can (Sony because PS4 still sells millions of new units; MS because XBX have to sell for as many years as possible and will likely only hit its stride after the first price cut) and with Pro and XBX both are pretty well positioned tech wise to not loose too much sales to PC.
Then again there's production lines schedules which don't bode too well for launching anything mainstream on new process tech in 2019. I'm pretty sure we're looking at end of 2020 at best, possibly even later.
Then again there's production lines schedules which don't bode too well for launching anything mainstream on new process tech in 2019. I'm pretty sure we're looking at end of 2020 at best, possibly even later.
MS would be happy to wait a year and release a more powerful console like X1X a year later and get all the hardcore who want to play the best version of the games.
Besides, lets face it, no third party is going to have next gen games ready by 2019. 2020 holiday is when we will see next gen games, if not 2021. So Sony releasing a year early with a weak console and no games will not work in their favor. They will be the next Dreamcast or the Wii U, not the PS2.
Definitely sounds about right. I think this refresh era was just to test the waters but the next gen will happen in 2019 or 2020. I bet on it
Death Stranding and Cyberpunk (probably) would either be moved to the next gen systems or will be crossgen.
That's what I've been wondering ever since the Scorpio released a year after the Pro. I'm guessing they're going to phase out the base models and Scorpio will still have four-five years left in it due to the vastly superior processor/GPU.
Xbox 4 is probably going to be a year behind the next Playstation.
If games would be actually developed with PS4 Pro and Xbox One X as a base there would be far bigger upgrades to base gaphics than currently. With PS5 and Xbox Two as a base for development the jump from base PS4 and Xbox One will be big. Especially as they can leave jaguars behind as a base CPU target.
If they're not, it will be complete bullshit considering they'll absolutely be X86-based. The PS4 had an excuse with the Cell processor. Not anymore.
The jump in processing in both PS4/PS4 Pro will be massive when stacked up against Ryzen year 2/3. Xbox One X won't see as much of an improvement.
Current gen consoles really struggle with the amount of simulation in open world games due to processing limitations. Unfortunately open world games are in fashion right now so I have to wonder how much these consoles are holding back what these developers want to do.
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So Xbox games released in 2022 will run on an Xbox One? That's what generationless means.
Diminishing returns are real and at this point game design isn't hindered by hardware. At the beginning of the current gen there was much lamentation over the lack of "next-gen experiences" and that was after a historically long preceding generation. At 2019 or 2020 launch of next gen consoles would offer framerate, resolution, LOD, and IQ improvements similar to the bump from PS4 to Pro. At that point an arbitrary software cutoff would seem silly, and all the games could arguably be played on weaker hardware at 1080p with lower settings.
To achieve the generational leap people are used to this generation has to be very long. Alternatively the hard software cutoff we're used to could just end and we'll have more frequent iteraive hardware releases with backwards and forwards compatability.
The PS360 didn't die right away.
This gen will most certainly linger a few years. Especially with entry-level 4K support now.
What you need to watch for is fragmentation into VR or AR, not as accessories, but as base platforms.
I expect a lot of retro-remastering too. So, you may as well just get nice and comfortable.
This gen will most certainly linger a few years. Especially with entry-level 4K support now.
What you need to watch for is fragmentation into VR or AR, not as accessories, but as base platforms.
I expect a lot of retro-remastering too. So, you may as well just get nice and comfortable.
Yeah I could see late 2019 for the next Playstation. 2020 for Xbox
We'd still be on the PS3 if we waited on them lol
We'd still be on the PS3 if we waited on them lol
Yup. Also, the orig Xbox was out about 4 years when the 360 launched. Nirolak has a point about the Switch.
2019 is 6 years after the PS4/XBO launched. 2019 is realistic.
Think about this: cross gen games from PS360 to PS4/XBO vs cross gen games from PS4/XBO to PS5/XBTwo.
Its gonna be alot better this time.
And I can totally see Pro/XBOX being the base systems eventually for this gen. Cross gen from those 2 would be alot better vs PS4/XBO.
If a "mid-gen" upgrade means something like UC4 to TLoU pt. II then I think it's going to be pretty apparent.
Yeah, very possible.
My gut feeling is 2020 would be better but Sony might feel it would be good to beat MS to market and the sooner they have a more powerful machine than the XBX the better.
So ? And Sony will launch ps5 pro 2 years after that.it will be 2 years for Ms and one year sony for powerful console.but sony has time and price advantage . Don't u realise how big that is ?and don't forget that we are entering into area of diminishing return.
When I look back at PS3/360 that was 7/8 years, it felt too long. As a person who was playing PC and had both consoles back then I noticed how forums and podcasts that were mostly talking about Xbox 360 and XBL had started to shift to PC in 2011/12 when Sandy Bridge dropped, eyes started to wonder and people wanted to buy new shit.
6 years on would be a good time, 7/8 might be too much again but we have the Pro and XBX in there. Most of the core PS4 base might be looking to buy in 2019 and skip the Pro.
6 years on would be a good time, 7/8 might be too much again but we have the Pro and XBX in there. Most of the core PS4 base might be looking to buy in 2019 and skip the Pro.
Ugh I can't imagine. I feel we just started getting a steady stream of new great AAA titles. The generation took forever to take off. I don't want to have to wait again with cross gen games filling the first 2 years.
2020 sounds about right for new consoles. This one is really just starting to define itself in the last year or so if you ask me.
Told you guys/gals fall of 2019 will be new gen for at least Playstation. At the latest 2020. But I will go with 2019 look at 7nm process, and when cross generational games will be out.
lol why does Mark Cerny always look like he plotting something devious?
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If there are less than 2 years left in the generation, a lot of One X buyers will feel fleeced methinks.