P sure carriers get moved all the time when we want to wave our dicks around. This is aggressive posturing, but not a preparation for war.
Bull market for another 10 years if we declare war. War is hell... but it's also profitable.
This doesn't seem like routine dick waving. I'm reading that this is a pre-emptive response to planned attack by Iran.
So....yeah. Trump wants a war.
Iran news: Ministry of Guidance calls editor in chiefs of newspapers & orders them not to publish any news related to upcoming Iran announcements on JCPOA
Sounds like the end of the deal then.Iranian media have been reporting that Iran will formally start enrichment and partially walk from the deal tommorow. Also, that the European leaders have been informed of this decision earlier today.
Yeah, time to stockpile food I guess.
I don't think Bolton could be any happier right now, Iran pulling out of the deal would be his wet dream.
I don't think Bolton could be any happier right now, Iran pulling out of the deal would be his wet dream.
Genuinely saddens me if this happens, I was hoping Iran would try to ride it out until the 2020 elections in the hope a Democrat gets elected and re-enters the deal and removes the related sanctions currently in place.
Welp, I think Bolton just got his war.Iranian media have been reporting that Iran will formally start enrichment and partially walk from the deal tommorow. Also, that the European leaders have been informed of this decision earlier today.
The decision is reportedly to preempt US decision which is expected to announce sanctions far more far reaching than current ones.
I'm in Iran right now and let me tell you that this situation simply can't continue for another 2 years. Especially after this years flood and locust attack. Last summer was already very hard without any of this. The price of food has almost tripled in the past year.I don't think Bolton could be any happier right now, Iran pulling out of the deal would be his wet dream.
Genuinely saddens me if this happens, I was hoping Iran would try to ride it out until the 2020 elections in the hope a Democrat gets elected and re-enters the deal and removes the related sanctions currently in place.
It's a hilarious world we live in where Iran is considered sane. Sure they may govern in a super conservative, hypocritical, religious way but at least they're consistent and predictable!I would think anyone sane at this point (i.e. Iran, china, Canada,. Mexico, et.) is just going to try and wait 2020 out, maybe spend a few hundred million trying to sway the election away from Trump.
The Iran nuclear deal was a really good thing. It's been proven time and time again that severe economic sanctions usually result in widespread humanitarian disaster but lol who caresI'm in Iran right now and let me tell you that this situation simply can't continue for another 2 years. Especially after this years flood and locust attack. Last summer was already very hard without any of this. The price of food has almost tripled in the past year.
Welp then. Lets just hope we wont find ourselves with a war which makes the Iraqi wars look like a bunch of angry women pulling each other's hair then.I'm in Iran right now and let me tell you that this situation simply can't continue for another 2 years. Especially after this years flood and locust attack. Last summer was already very hard without any of this. The price of food has almost tripled in the past year.
I don't actually think a war would happen unless there's severe causes beyond xenophonia and greed.Sounds like we just can't get a fucking break. Just leave us alone. Fuck.
Our fucking regime is not helping either. Fuck.
You guys in the US, please like do something? Trump et al are showing all the signs that they are ready for a war, maybe get an anti war movement going or something.
I'm worried that Trump's wins(?) in foreign policy towards Venezuela and Iran wins him the second term.The Iran nuclear deal was a really good thing. It's been proven time and time again that severe economic sanctions usually result in widespread humanitarian disaster but lol who cares
W got his war because of 9/11. Americans won't be gung ho about another war especialy since there won't be a sufficient enough trigger for it and even republican voters have turned on the iraq war because of Trump. They largely don't care about foreign policy unless it immediately affects them.I'm worried that Trump's wins(?) in foreign policy towards Venezuela and Iran wins him the second term.
From what I see we are pretty close to a state failure. What US needs to do is to drop a few bombs and let the civil war begin.W got his war because of 9/11. Americans won't be gung ho about another war especialy since there won't be a sufficient enough trigger for it and even republican voters have turned on the iraq war because of Trump. They largely don't care about foreign policy unless it immediately affects them.
I'm worried that Trump's wins(?) in foreign policy towards Venezuela and Iran wins him the second term.
Is that a view espoused by many Iranians?From what I see we are pretty close to a state failure. What US needs to do is to drop a few bombs and let the civil war begin.
Iran would still sell to the EU unless they went against Iran as well and I'm sure the KSA would offer the US a nice oil discount if they helped take out Iran.Images of burning US ships, blown up US planes, dead civilians and caskets coming home from a totally preventable war is not going to land Trump a victory.
He is already incredibly unpopular in a time of economic success.
A war with Iran would likely cause a global recession due to the massive increase in oil costs.
Is that a view espoused by many Iranians?
I've gotten the impression that Iran is actually somewhat of a strong state especially when compared to Egypt, Yemen, Syria, Iraq etc.
Exactly, but Iran doesn't really come up in the discussion of failed states or anythingNot exactly a stellar cast to be compared to if we're talking bluntly.
Iran would still sell to the EU unless they went against Iran as well and I'm sure the KSA would offer the US a nice oil discount if they helped take out Iran.
The thing is that the regime has been on shaky ground for almost 20 years. There have been on average one big protest each decade. First in 1999 the next in 2009-2010 and another in 2019.Is that a view espoused by many Iranians?
I've gotten the impression that Iran is actually somewhat of a strong state especially when compared to Egypt, Yemen, Syria, Iraq etc.
Is the EU still importing much Iranian oil at this point?Iran would still sell to the EU unless they went against Iran as well and I'm sure the KSA would offer the US a nice oil discount if they helped take out Iran.
The main reason Iran is exiting the deal is that Europe, India and China are keeping the deal only in name. Almost no trade is going on between Iran and Europe at the time as Europeans can't risk US sanctions.Iran would still sell to the EU unless they went against Iran as well and I'm sure the KSA would offer the US a nice oil discount if they helped take out Iran.
None of this will happen Iranian millitary is a joke compared to US.Images of burning US ships, blown up US planes, dead civilians and caskets coming home from a totally preventable war is not going to land Trump a victory.
He is already incredibly unpopular in a time of economic success.
A war with Iran would likely cause a global recession due to the massive increase in oil costs.
What in the world are you talking about?Images of burning US ships, blown up US planes, dead civilians and caskets coming home from a totally preventable war is not going to land Trump a victory.
He is already incredibly unpopular in a time of economic success.
A war with Iran would likely cause a global recession due to the massive increase in oil costs.
I guess not.
None of this will happen Iranian millitary is a joke compared to US.
No amount of nationalism can hurt a plane flying at 50000 feet. US would be dumb to engage in urban combat. Just bomb the infrastructure and it would be enough for a civil war in Iran and another refugee crisis in Europe to start.When bombs start dropping on population centers, what do you think will happen to US forces engaged in urban combat?
Nothing brings out righteous anger like Nationalism in the face of an invading army.
With what is being brought in, it doesn't look like infantry is the focus. And it's mostly the burning US ships and panes part that was silly.When bombs start dropping on population centers, what do you think will happen to US forces engaged in urban combat?
Nothing brings out righteous anger like Nationalism in the face of an invading army.