UK coronavirus discussion. “Stay at home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.”

DSN2K

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm key worker, I work for NHS, I see anyone out taking the piss I will report them to the police. I really dont give a shit what people think now. Im fed up with the general public.
 

Honolulu Blue

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Oct 27, 2017
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My prediction for tomorrow; tube will still be packed with people who still don't have clarity on their work and still can't WFH, all the cycling dickheads will be out for their "one outdoor exercise per day" like it's a bank holiday jolly, and you'll still have people aimlessly bumbling about looking for "the essentials", bags of turkey twizzlers..
 

offshore

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wouldn't be surprised if panic buying will be even worse now; probably was one of the reasons why they haven't wanted to announce a lockdown.
 
Nov 14, 2017
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Should have been done weeks ago. Although I feel the like big issue now is food shopping. With the reduction in store hours everywhere more and more people are getting packed into these places. Think a workplace isn't safe or a crowded park? Try going to a fucking supermarket. These are the real hotspots for transmission and its literally impossible to get an online shop in

Something needs to be done even if its just a standard box of stuff sent out to each household
This seems to be fairly regional. Round here the supermarkets have been pretty sparse. I've only been going in the afternoon/evening mind. There are some gaps, but also stock is coming back. There was a decent amount of bread at my local co-op for instance, considering I went at 5pm. Most of the bread is usually sold out by that time normally anyway.
 
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My prediction for tomorrow; tube will still be packed with people who still don't have clarity on their work and still can't WFH, all the cycling dickheads will be out for their "one outdoor exercise per day" like it's a bank holiday jolly, and you'll still have people aimlessly bumbling about looking for "the essentials", bags of turkey twizzlers..
Wait they still do turkey twizzlers?
 

Uzzy

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's about 123,000 Police Officers and 190,750 total armed forces (including reservists in that number), so that's 313,750 in total at most. Working 12 hour shifts that's 156,875 available per day to enforce a lockdown. That's nowhere near enough. So they have to hope the public co-operate and have the threat of enforcement hanging over people's heads to encourage it.
 

metalgear89

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Oct 27, 2017
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Pretty much guaranteed too increase the panic buying, when in a rational society it would be the opposite. Even those assholes who have been hoarding stuff will be back for seconds.
 

PJV3

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There's about 123,000 Police Officers and 190,750 total armed forces (including reservists in that number), so that's 313,750 in total at most. Working 12 hour shifts that's 156,875 available per day to enforce a lockdown. That's nowhere near enough. So they have to hope the public co-operate and have the threat of enforcement hanging over people's heads to encourage it.
They have all the proper criminal shit to be dealing with, i can see people making hay if the police get swamped handing out fines to plonkers.
 

Redcrayon

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Oct 27, 2017
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This announcement was a bit pointless as none of it can possible be enforced. Who will monitor how many times people go for a “walk”? How many times I go to the shop etc.
The government is relying on people to do the right thing. Most will, but a few will make the effort of many non existent by ignoring the rules.

it’s shouldn’t be“you should”, but “you must”!

the police won’t be able to do anything as they already struggle to attend unrelated 999 calls, which will only go up due to people sitting on top of each other. People replaced pubs with house parties and even if a neighbour calls police reporting one, not many forces will the the resources to send out.

Hoping for the public to do the right thing will most likely not work.
To be fair, reading the transcript of his speech, he did say that:

“From this evening I must give the British people a very simple instruction – you must stay at home”


It’s just that the tone was still so matey
 
Nov 14, 2017
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There's about 123,000 Police Officers and 190,750 total armed forces (including reservists in that number), so that's 313,750 in total at most. Working 12 hour shifts that's 156,875 available per day to enforce a lockdown. That's nowhere near enough. So they have to hope the public co-operate and have the threat of enforcement hanging over people's heads to encourage it.
If people don't comply they'll have to set up checkpoints.

Does anyone know how they were doing it in Italy?
 

Opposable

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's about 123,000 Police Officers and 190,750 total armed forces (including reservists in that number), so that's 313,750 in total at most. Working 12 hour shifts that's 156,875 available per day to enforce a lockdown. That's nowhere near enough. So they have to hope the public co-operate and have the threat of enforcement hanging over people's heads to encourage it.
I mean if all shops other than pet shops and supermarkets and pharmacies are closed, where will people mix? There's no cinemas, theatres, pubs, sport events, gyms to meet people at anymore. Parks in London are already closing. It will likely only be house parties or inside supermarkets as places of large gatherings, which are much easier to monitor.
 

blaze

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm still trying to find out whether I should be going into work tomorrow because my employer has done no preparation for just a complete shutdown over night despite us constantly warning them about it. The associations related to my industry are looking out for themselves rather than the staff and are saying it's an essential service we're supplying (self storage) but the reality is we have no-one storing who have essential supplies (we have no medical suppliers and don't allow food storage). We could realistically just allow access to continue with no staff on site but no-one should really be going there under this lock down anyway and it opens up a lot of security risks in doing it.
 

o k

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sorry to be an asshole, but what made you think it was a good idea to visit your parents this weekend????
maybe they have been working from home for weeks already and have driven to their parents. therefore they would have had 0 exposure to the virus and would be unlikely to get it except from their parents. idk.
 

Flon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm worried about my brother. He works night shifts at Travelodge and is completely in the dark about whether or not his job will continue, and he has to get public transport every day hours in advance.
 

Mr_F_Snowman

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Oct 27, 2017
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This seems to be fairly regional. Round here the supermarkets have been pretty sparse. I've only been going in the afternoon/evening mind. There are some gaps, but also stock is coming back. There was a decent amount of bread at my local co-op for instance, considering I went at 5pm. Most of the bread is usually sold out by that time normally anyway.
Its not stock levels that are the problem round here - I've been going late (9pm +) and yeah theres no bread etc but plenty of fresh stuff and more than enough for any normal human being + not been close to anyone.

Now even going at 7pm its going to be mental - no one bothers to give any space and they are getting slammed with thousands of these dipshits daily. I guarantee a study in a years time will point to local supermarkets as the main trnasmission area. How could they not be? It a joke
 
Nov 14, 2017
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Its not stock levels that are the problem round here - I've been going late (9pm +) and yeah theres no bread etc but plenty of fresh stuff and more than enough for any normal human being + not been close to anyone.

Now even going at 7pm its going to be mental - no one bothers to give any space and they are getting slammed with thousands of these dipshits daily. I guarantee a study in a years time will point to local supermarkets as the main trnasmission area. How could they not be? It a joke
I guess I'm lucky to basically live in the middle of a forest. Not that many people, plenty of space. Hell, I could go out for a walk all day and hardly see anyone if I wanted.
 

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Its not stock levels that are the problem round here - I've been going late (9pm +) and yeah theres no bread etc but plenty of fresh stuff and more than enough for any normal human being + not been close to anyone.

Now even going at 7pm its going to be mental - no one bothers to give any space and they are getting slammed with thousands of these dipshits daily. I guarantee a study in a years time will point to local supermarkets as the main trnasmission area. How could they not be? It a joke
In Italy they're only letting a limited number of people in at the same time.
 
Transcript of Boris speech to nation, 23 March New

Redcrayon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is there an official time, is it immediate, i don't think i have seen something like this before.

Speech in full.
References to time in bold-
From this evening
Present tense used throughout
’Immediately’ when referring to shops etc.
It could have been clearer but it is there.

Good evening,
The coronavirus is the biggest threat this country has faced for decades – and this country is not alone.
All over the world we are seeing the devastating impact of this invisible killer
And so tonight I want to update you on the latest steps we are taking to fight the disease and what you can do to help.

And I want to begin by reminding you why the UK has been taking the approach that we have.
Without a huge national effort to halt the growth of this virus, there will come a moment when no health service in the world could possibly cope; because there won’t be enough ventilators, enough intensive care beds, enough doctors and nurses.
And as we have seen elsewhere, in other countries that also have fantastic health care systems, that is the moment of real danger.
To put it simply, if too many people become seriously unwell at one time, the NHS will be unable to handle it – meaning more people are likely to die, not just from coronavirus but from other illnesses as well.
So it’s vital to slow the spread of the disease.
Because that is the way we reduce the number of people needing hospital treatment at any one time, so we can protect the NHS’s ability to cope – and save more lives.
And that’s why we have been asking people to stay at home during this pandemic.

And though huge numbers are complying – and I thank you all – the time has now come for us all to do more.
From this evening I must give the British people a very simple instruction – you must stay at home.
Because the critical thing we must do is stop the disease spreading between households.
That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes:
  • shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible
  • one form of exercise a day – for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household;
  • any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and
  • travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.
That’s all – these are the only reasons you should leave your home.
You should not be meeting friends. If your friends ask you to meet, you should say No.
You should not be meeting family members who do not live in your home.

You should not be going shopping except for essentials like food and medicine – and you should do this as little as you can. And use food delivery services where you can.
If you don’t follow the rules the police will have the powers to enforce them, including through fines and dispersing gatherings.
To ensure compliance with the Government’s instruction to stay at home, we will immediately:
  • close all shops selling non-essential goods, including clothing and electronic stores and other premises including libraries, playgrounds and outdoor gyms, and places of worship;
  • we will stop all gatherings of more than two people in public – excluding people you live with;
  • and we’ll stop all social events, including weddings, baptisms and other ceremonies, but excluding funerals.
Parks will remain open for exercise but gatherings will be dispersed.
No prime minister wants to enact measures like this.
I know the damage that this disruption is doing and will do to people’s lives, to their businesses and to their jobs.

And that’s why we have produced a huge and unprecedented programme of support both for workers and for business.
And I can assure you that we will keep these restrictions under constant review. We will look again in three weeks, and relax them if the evidence shows we are able to.
But at present there are just no easy options. The way ahead is hard, and it is still true that many lives will sadly be lost.
And yet it is also true that there is a clear way through.
Day by day we are strengthening our amazing NHS with 7500 former clinicians now coming back to the service.
With the time you buy – by simply staying at home – we are increasing our stocks of equipment.
We are accelerating our search for treatments.
We are pioneering work on a vaccine.
And we are buying millions of testing kits that will enable us to turn the tide on this invisible killer.
I want to thank everyone who is working flat out to beat the virus.
Everyone from the supermarket staff to the transport workers to the carers to the nurses and doctors on the frontline.

But in this fight we can be in no doubt that each and every one of us is directly enlisted.
Each and every one of us is now obliged to join together.
To halt the spread of this disease.
To protect our NHS and to save many many thousands of lives.
And I know that as they have in the past so many times.
The people of this country will rise to that challenge.
And we will come through it stronger than ever.
We will beat the coronavirus and we will beat it together.
And therefore I urge you at this moment of national emergency to stay at home, protect our NHS and save lives.
Thank you.
 

Pankratous

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Oct 26, 2017
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The world really has gone mad when Boris Johnson sounds like a well put together intelligent gentleman when put side by side with the US president.