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UK to ban mass gatherings in coronavirus U-turn
  • Ravensmash

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    Sometime in the future.

    But remember there is no mass testing, people are being told not to call 111. The government will not have any statistical basis to change policy because they aren't collecting data.

    www.theguardian.com

    UK to ban mass gatherings in coronavirus U-turn

    Measure likely to come into effect next week after sporting bodies and others act unilaterally

    Official now.

    (That was quick!)

    Edit: from article

    Hours later, in a significant change of tack, Downing Street signalled it was preparing to stop large public events, including sports fixtures and concerts, to alleviate the pressure on police and the ambulance service. It did not specify what size of event would be affected, and the timing of the clampdown has yet to be decided, but it is expected to come into force in a week's time.

    Emergency legislation due to be passed by the government next week is expected to include compensation for organisations forced to cancel events.

    Whitehall sources said the country would move toward widespread home-working, although details had yet to be thrashed out.
     
    Rishi Sunak, Chancellor, sums up his economic plan on twitter
  • Redcrayon

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    Rishi Sunak, Chancellor, sums up key points on his economic plan to help workers on twitter:



    https://twitter.com/RishiSunak
    2/ For the first time in our history, the British government is going to step in and help pay people's wages. Government grants will cover 80% of the salary of retained workers, up to a total of £2,500 a month, that's above UK median earnings level.

    3/ The scheme, open to any employer in the country, will cover the cost of wages backdated to March 1st and will be open before the end of April for at least 3 months.

    There's no limit on the funding available for the scheme, we will pay to support as many jobs as needed.

    4/ Many businesses are hurting now and I can announce that the Coronavirus Business Interruption Loan Scheme will not be interest-free, as previously planned, for 6 months – it will be for twelve months.

    Those loans will now be available on Monday. https://www.british-business-bank.co.uk/ourpartners/coronavirus-business-interruption-loan-scheme-cbils/ …

    5/ To help businesses keep people in work, I'm deferring the next quarter of VAT payments.

    No business will pay VAT from now to mid June. You'll have until the end of the financial year to repay those bills. That's an over £30bn injection to businesses equivalent to 1.5% of GDP

    6/ We are already seeing some job losses. Today I'm increasing the Universal Credit standard allowance, for the next 12 months, by £1,000 a year. I'm increasing the Working Tax Credit basic element by the same amount.

    These measures will benefit just over 4 million households.

    7/ I'm also strengthening the safety net for self-employed people by suspending the minimum income floor.

    That means self-employed people can now access, in full, Universal Credit at a rate equivalent to Statutory Sick Pay for employees.

    8/ Taken together, I'm announcing over £6bn of extra support through the welfare system.

    And to further support the self-employed through the tax system, I'm announcing today that the next self-assessment payments will be deferred until Jan 2021.

    9/ For renters, I'm announcing today nearly £1bn of support by increasing the generosity of housing benefit and Universal Credit, so that the Local Housing Allowance will cover at least 30% of market rents in your area.

    10/ We want to look back on this time and remember how, in the face of a generation-defining moment, we undertook a collective national effort - and stood together.

    It's on all of us.
     
    Mortgage relief
  • Redcrayon

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    Damn. This thread is huge. I've been hearing about mortgage relief as well. Any information on that?

    Redirect Notice


    3 month break if you are struggling


    If keeping up with your bills and food on the table may be a challenge, speak to your bank. On Tuesday 17 March, banks agreed with the Chancellor that they will offer 'forbearance' (tolerance and help) on mortgages.

    This means they all should offer those struggling a three-month 'holiday', allowing customers a temporary break from having to make mortgage payments during this time. (Though it's worth noting this is a voluntary agreement with banks – it isn't compulsory for them to offer mortgage holidays.)
    How would this work in practice? Again we await final confirmation, but here's how it typically works. Let's imagine you have 19 years and three months left on your mortgage. For the next three months you wouldn't pay anything. Then when your mortgage repayments resume, the total you owe would be spread over the following 19 years – so you would see a very small uplift in future payments.
    You will still be charged interest - but it's added to the total cost and you get short-term respite. It's worth noting that if you take a mortgage holiday you WILL still be charged interest for the time you're not making payments. But you won't have to pay it back immediately - it'll be added on to the total cost of your mortgage and factored into repayments when you start making them again.
     
    Threadmarks Private sector deal to support NHS at cost: 1,200 ventilators, 20,000 staff, 8,000 beds
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    Some good news at last, just in time too:

    'NHS to get thousands more beds, ventilators and extra healthcare staff
    The NHS has struck a deal with private hospitals to provide thousands more beds, ventilators and extra healthcare staff from next week to aid in the fight against coronavirus.
    The extra resources, which include nearly 20,000 staff, will also help the NHS deliver other urgent operations and cancer treatments.
    The deal with independent hospitals is thought to be the first of its kind and will include the provision of 8,000 hospital beds across England, nearly 1,200 more ventilators, more than 10,000 nurses, over 700 doctors and over 8,000 other clinical staff.
    Matt Hancock, the health secretary, said:
    This is great news for the hospitals and staff doing everything they can to combat coronavirus.
    Under the agreement, the independent sector will reallocate almost its entire national hospital capacity to the NHS and will be reimbursed at cost.
    Sir Simon Stevens, the NHS's chief executive, hailed the deal with the private sector, saying:
    We're dealing with an unprecedented global health threat and are taking immediate and exceptional action to gear up.
    The NHS is doing everything in its power to expand treatment capacity and is working with partners right across the country to do so.
    David Hare, the chief executive of the Independent Healthcare Providers Network, said:
    We have worked hand-in-hand with the NHS for decades and will do whatever it takes to support the NHS in responding to this pandemic.
    This significant additional capacity across the country will be a major boost to the NHS's efforts to treat those patients that need hospital care over the coming period and the independent sector stands ready to maintain that support for as long as needed.'
    From the guardian live blog. They should have enacted the powers they had to take over private hospitals but whatever, right now the country needed this. 20k+ clinical staff too.

    The NHS has worked rapidly around the clock and I do hope the extra 13k beds they advised last week become available this week. 23k more beds and thousands more ventilators would be a big dose of good news before the surge happens.
     
    Coronavirus bill
  • Redcrayon

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    Hopefully the panic buying will stop once people realise there isn't gonna be some hard lockdown.


    Why was there no mention of fines? Also casino's seemed to be left off the list
    I think the government is waiting for the coronavirus bill to go through on Monday to get all the new measures for enforcing stuff through. Note 'strengthening the quarantine powers of the police'

     
    22 March briefing
  • Redcrayon

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    Looks like 'stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives' is our new national slogan until the next one.

    abridged from the Guardian stream of the conference for discussion

    Answering a question on when stricter measures will come into force, Johnson says we've taken some "draconian" steps in transforming daily lives, and that it's important for people to still be able to get out and exercise.

    He adds that if people don't act responsibly, stricter measures will be enforced.

    The prime minister is asked why social distancing measures aren't being enforced more strictly considering evidence suggests they are not being followed. "We've already taken some very draconian steps, we've closed the schools and a huge swathe of the UK economy ... a huge quantity of our normal daily life has been transformed."'

    "It is very important for people's mental and psychical wellbeing that they should be able to get out and exercise. That's why parks and open spaces are absolutely crucial."

    "If people don't exercise responsibly in the parks and green spaces, there is going to be no doubt we are going to bring forward further measures and we are keeping that under constant review."

    The UK's case fatality rise changes as we move through the epidemic. "We will look back in due course and see the actual number of people who have died of coronavirus" Dr Jenny Harries, deputy chief medical officer for England says, but warns against comparing to other countries' rates.

    Dr Harries says "flexing of the system is designed to handle bumps" of cases, and that only 12% of adult critical care beds are taken by Covid patients. Adds all hospitals are stepping up their training, and that we currently have sufficient ventilator capacity.

    Answering a question on when will the lockdown will come into place, the PM says we are trying to "push down on the growth curve" and get our NHS ready. Says we don't yet know the effects of the measures already in place.

    Boris Johnson said that, although there is a good supply at the moment, the country is going to need far, far more ventilators and a huge effort is underway to get these. Deputy Chief Medical Officer, Dr Jenny Harries, said places such as London are starting to see "very significant" rises in cases. In England, only 12% of adult critical care beds are occupied by Covid-19 patients at the moment, but that will change drastically throughout the epidemic, Harries added.

    "The answer is always to be guided by the science," stressing the importance of timing for a lockdown. "You have to wait until the right moment to do it." The PM says shielding has been brought in at the moment of maximum exposure.

    Answering a question about curfews and the police, Johnson reiterates importance of responsibly going out while observing social distancing. "If people won't do it, we'll bring in tougher measures."

    Dr Harries says over 70s identified by the initiative should not go out. Others should try to stay at home and follow social distancing. Stresses that we don't want to increase mental health problems by "such a strict imposition" and says outdoor environment is safer than an indoor one (because virus doesn't last as long).

    When asked by a reporter when the government would consider using the police to enforce social distancing, Boris Johnson seemed quite incredulous. "Bring in the police!?" he responded. However, he reiterated that if people continue to ignore advice on staying apart, tougher measures would have be introduced - but still no detail on what these tougher measures could be.

    "The best thing that everybody can do, if you're going outside, is observe social distancing, Stay two metres apart - it's not such a difficult thing, do it. Stay at home - that is the best way to help the NHS, and the best way to save potentially many, many thousands of lives."

    full coverage, including more on measures to protect the vulnerable here:
    www.theguardian.com

    UK coronavirus live: Johnson threatens stricter measures if people flout social distancing rules as deaths reach 281 - as it happened

    Boris Johnson holds daily briefing; shops under pressure to close; rough sleepers race against time to self-isolate
     
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    times of daily briefings
  • Redcrayon

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    Anyone know what time todays conference is happening?
    Normally the press briefings will take place between 4pm and 6pm, according to Number 10.

    A Downing Street spokesperson said that they would like to "see [the briefings held at] a consistent time."

    Recent previous weekday briefings have all happened at around 5pm with weekend ones taking place at 2.30pm.

    www.lbc.co.uk

    Coronavirus UK: What time is Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s press conference today?

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson is set to update the public on new Covid-19 social gathering restrictions. But when is Boris's speech today? When is the next coronavirus update?
     
    Jburnmurdoch deaths over time graph, updated daily
  • Hazzuh

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    Oh, OK. FT was paywalling for me yesterday, but now it seems all COVID stories are open. Here's the graph:

    GdQ3r81.png



    Well, we're a bit over 33% daily increase in deaths, so most likely any slowdown in the increase in death rate is just regression to the mean 😿
    fyi the guy who makes the graph posts it on twitter every day: https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch
     
    Transcript of Boris speech to nation, 23 March
  • Redcrayon

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    Is there an official time, is it immediate, i don't think i have seen something like this before.


    Speech in full.
    References to time in bold-
    From this evening
    Present tense used throughout
    'Immediately' when referring to shops etc.
    It could have been clearer but it is there.

    Good evening,
    The coronavirus is the biggest threat this country has faced for decades – and this country is not alone.
    All over the world we are seeing the devastating impact of this invisible killer
    And so tonight I want to update you on the latest steps we are taking to fight the disease and what you can do to help.

    And I want to begin by reminding you why the UK has been taking the approach that we have.
    Without a huge national effort to halt the growth of this virus, there will come a moment when no health service in the world could possibly cope; because there won't be enough ventilators, enough intensive care beds, enough doctors and nurses.
    And as we have seen elsewhere, in other countries that also have fantastic health care systems, that is the moment of real danger.
    To put it simply, if too many people become seriously unwell at one time, the NHS will be unable to handle it – meaning more people are likely to die, not just from coronavirus but from other illnesses as well.
    So it's vital to slow the spread of the disease.
    Because that is the way we reduce the number of people needing hospital treatment at any one time, so we can protect the NHS's ability to cope – and save more lives.
    And that's why we have been asking people to stay at home during this pandemic.

    And though huge numbers are complying – and I thank you all – the time has now come for us all to do more.
    From this evening I must give the British people a very simple instruction – you must stay at home.
    Because the critical thing we must do is stop the disease spreading between households.
    That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes:
    • shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible
    • one form of exercise a day – for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household;
    • any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and
    • travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.
    That's all – these are the only reasons you should leave your home.
    You should not be meeting friends. If your friends ask you to meet, you should say No.
    You should not be meeting family members who do not live in your home.

    You should not be going shopping except for essentials like food and medicine – and you should do this as little as you can. And use food delivery services where you can.
    If you don't follow the rules the police will have the powers to enforce them, including through fines and dispersing gatherings.
    To ensure compliance with the Government's instruction to stay at home, we will immediately:
    • close all shops selling non-essential goods, including clothing and electronic stores and other premises including libraries, playgrounds and outdoor gyms, and places of worship;
    • we will stop all gatherings of more than two people in public – excluding people you live with;
    • and we'll stop all social events, including weddings, baptisms and other ceremonies, but excluding funerals.
    Parks will remain open for exercise but gatherings will be dispersed.
    No prime minister wants to enact measures like this.
    I know the damage that this disruption is doing and will do to people's lives, to their businesses and to their jobs.

    And that's why we have produced a huge and unprecedented programme of support both for workers and for business.
    And I can assure you that we will keep these restrictions under constant review. We will look again in three weeks, and relax them if the evidence shows we are able to.
    But at present there are just no easy options. The way ahead is hard, and it is still true that many lives will sadly be lost.
    And yet it is also true that there is a clear way through.
    Day by day we are strengthening our amazing NHS with 7500 former clinicians now coming back to the service.
    With the time you buy – by simply staying at home – we are increasing our stocks of equipment.
    We are accelerating our search for treatments.
    We are pioneering work on a vaccine.
    And we are buying millions of testing kits that will enable us to turn the tide on this invisible killer.
    I want to thank everyone who is working flat out to beat the virus.
    Everyone from the supermarket staff to the transport workers to the carers to the nurses and doctors on the frontline.

    But in this fight we can be in no doubt that each and every one of us is directly enlisted.
    Each and every one of us is now obliged to join together.
    To halt the spread of this disease.
    To protect our NHS and to save many many thousands of lives.
    And I know that as they have in the past so many times.
    The people of this country will rise to that challenge.
    And we will come through it stronger than ever.
    We will beat the coronavirus and we will beat it together.
    And therefore I urge you at this moment of national emergency to stay at home, protect our NHS and save lives.
    Thank you.
     
    Gove clarifies restrictions, childcare for children moving between two homes
  • Redcrayon

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    Gove has already told Ashley to sit down:



    Guardian live blog

    thanks for this- I'm just going to paste the clarifications here as they become harder to find as the blog moves on. I know some wanted info on childcare for kids moving between two homes.

    Guardian live blog:
    UK Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove has been speaking this morning on Good Morning Britain and BBC Breakfast. He has provided some further details on the UK lockdown:

    BBC Breakfast (@BBCBreakfast)
    Michael Gove tells #BBCBreakfast about construction workers under the new #coronavirus advice

    - "Construction should continue on site"

    - "I think it's important that when we have construction work that can be done safely in the open air… it can continue"
    March 24, 2020
    • All non-essential retail should close. Asked about Mike Ashley, the chief executive of Sports Direct who has suggested shops may stay open, he said the shops were not essential, should shut and Ashley should "rescind what he said".
    • Answering questions on unclear advice for the construction industry, Gove said all major construction work should go ahead but jobs carried out at close quarters in someone's home should would not be appropriate.
    • On rules for separated families in two households, Gove clarified earlier comments and said there should be limited movement between households but children could continue to see both parents if they were under 18.
    • Garages can remain open, to ensure cars remain safe and roadworthy but people should exercise self control. "People should not be out and about unless they need to be," said Gove.
    • You can deliver food to vulnerable people, that is an "appropriate activity".
    • On food delivery bottle necks - Gove said supermarkets are doing a great job but there will be more deliveries and other companies are steeping into gaps. People should shop sparingly.
    • On people moving house - if it is possible to pause moving that should be done. If at all possible people should stay in their current home.
    • On exercise - this means a walk, run or cycle once a day. Going to an allotment would be "sensible" but people should not be playing golf or any sport which requires interaction.
    • Police will be enforcing these rules.
     
    Volunteer for the NHS! 250k people needed
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    https://www.goodsamapp.org/NHS

    • Community Response volunteer: This role involves collecting shopping, medication or other essential supplies for someone who is self-isolating, and delivering these supplies to their home.
    • Patient Transport volunteer: This role supports the NHS by providing transport to patients who are medically fit for discharge, and ensuring that they are settled safely back in to their home.
    • NHS Transport volunteer: This role involves transporting equipment, supplies and/or medication between NHS services and sites, it may also involve assisting pharmacies with medication delivery.
    • Check-in and Chat volunteer: This role provides short-term telephone support to individuals who are at risk of loneliness as a consequence of self-isolation.

    NHS requesting 250,000 volunteers to help out. Basically if you have a car and free time you'd be of use.
     
    Really informative post from Azraes- science
  • Azraes

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    There's so much misinformation about this virus so I'll put a few bits of information here, hopefully it's okay to post here. But before that here is a good article on how we are not only facing an epidemic but an infodemic thanks to bad actors and miscommunication.

    First of all, COVID-19 is the disease and SARS-COV-2 the virus. It is not from the same family as the flu and in fact the disease is a different class of disease from the flu. Other than SARS and MERS, the other four viruses in this class (coronavirus) generally are viruses associated with the common cold.

    Over the length of its 30,000-base-pair genome, SARS-CoV-2 accumulates an average of about one to two mutations per month. This virus mutates slower than the flu and it is about 2-4 times slower than the flu. This indicates that it is possible that once a vaccine is developed it will be like vaccines we use for diseases we can develop immunity from. However bear in mind that there is still not enough information to study the phylogeny of this particular virus and that we have not effectively developed vaccines for the common cold this is why testing the vaccines is important and cannot be 'fast-tracked'. It isn't impossible, it just needs time. Some of the articles I've linked here were from when there was 350 genome sequences shared on GISAID; think there's over 1500 now. But these represent a tiny fraction of cases and show few telltale differences leading us to overinterpret the data.

    Human mobility is really key in this spread. Here's an image that shows what happened in China.

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    Human mobility, spread and synchrony of COVID-19 outbreak in China. (a) Human mobility data extracted in real time from Baidu. Travel restrictions from Wuhan and large scale control measures started on January 23,2020. Dark and red lines represent fluxes of human movements for 2019 and 2020, respectively. (b) Relative movements from Wuhan to other provinces in China. (c) Timeline of the correlation between daily incidence in Wuhan and incidence in all other provinces, weighted by human mobility.
    You can read the paper here. It's from the magazine, Science, and this is peer reviewed. The clear indication is that to keep this contained travel/human mobility needs to be contained. This is going to be important moving forward in case we have wave 2. This is why we need to see what will happen in China of course.

    The first case of COVID-19 was now identified from mid November in China but it is quite likely that there have been other cases. People have been traveling and that hasn't stopped so most countries would have had infections before we realised it was this and even before Wuhan. The central travel hubs across the world will have higher infection rates than we are aware of. So cities like London, New York, Tokyo, Amsterdam, etc could probably have a lot more than we know. It also is likely that it means that these locations need antibody/antigen testing conducted to see how many recovered from it and more testing is never a bad thing.

    Those flaunting the models saying that 50% of people are infected are sadly speaking not from conclusive datasets and there are many doubts on it. You cannot make conclusive models on the spread as yet as the current assumption is the rate of spread is 2.5 per person and that could be 2.5 per day in some calculations. If you go by bad input data you can even have it that in 10 days with 50% not self-isolating from an initial infected of 500(of which 100 are known as this is supposed to be 80-20 in terms of mild-severe ratio) the infection rate would be in double digit millions. There are also factors that show that 13% of the spread in China was from asymptomatic carriers. So the modelling has flaws. But the number of deaths from flu-like illnesses or pneumonia can potentially be an indicator.

    Here's also something to read on the affect of the four medication sets that WHO is trialling. Chloroquine is still in doubt but people are already being stupid. Some doctors in Australia have been irresponsibly self-medicating themselves and family.
    They are testing BCG vaccines right now to see if it can raise our immunity in general so that we can fight off this virus. Yes the vaccine is aimed towards bacteria and it's the good old anti-TB vaccine BCG.

    If you want to know why the SARS-COV-2 has been successful you can find more reading here. Some excerpts

    most respiratory viruses tend to infect either the upper or lower airways. In general, an upper-respiratory infection spreads more easily, but tends to be milder, while a lower-respiratory infection is harder to transmit, but is more severe. SARS-CoV-2 seems to infect both upper and lower airways, perhaps because it can exploit the ubiquitous furin. This double whammy could also conceivably explain why the virus can spread between people before symptoms show up—a trait that has made it so difficult to control. Perhaps it transmits while still confined to the upper airways, before making its way deeper and causing severe symptoms. All of this is plausible but totally hypothetical; the virus was only discovered in January, and most of its biology is still a mystery.
    A few SARS-CoV-2 viruses that were isolated from Singaporean COVID-19 patients are missing a stretch of genes that also disappeared from SARS-classic during the late stages of its epidemic. This change was thought to make the original virus less virulent, but it's far too early to know whether the same applies to the new one. Indeed, why some coronaviruses are deadly and some are not is unclear. "There's really no understanding at all of why SARS or SARS-CoV-2 are so bad but OC43 just gives you a runny nose," Frieman says.

    The whole thing about Italy's cases being imported from Munich was misinformation because there wasn't sufficient information to claim that link since there could have been a variant from the Chinese outbreak that carried the three mutations. But someone jumped the gun and tweeted it and it got picked up.

    Viruses mutate and more so in an outbreak. This happens. This isn't to be concerned about. We also do not know if the SARS-COV-2 will mutate to become milder like its cold virus siblings or be like it's other siblings that cause SARS or MERS. However the fact that it is a lot slower indicates that when we develop a vaccine it might be a permanent one. Situation is evolving and will be monitored.

    Additionl interesting reading:

    Everything you should know about the COVID-19 outbreak.
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    Source: World Health Organization; 2020.
    spectrum.ieee.org

    Big Data Helps Taiwan Fight Coronavirus

    How Taiwan used big data, new technologies and heavy handed government to control the spread of the coronavirus
    It is okay to feel anxious - an article written by a professor in China during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Mental health note:

    While people understand some people have anxiety and speak to them, remember that some of you or your loved ones might have signs or symptoms of OCD which can have adverse effects on anxiety. It is increasingly important to help in these cases or at the very least be mindful. Throwing facts at their face will not stop the compulsion part of the OCD and telling them to stop doesn't help either. Here's an article that shows the state of some people who have OCD/Anxiety.
    Here's Stephen Fry on stress and anxiety.
    Work out and hey here's some Lululemon workouts too.
    In general, talk to people and there are some free classes on here that you can access. Mind you that this is based on Eastern time but you could check them out when you feel like you're overwhelmed. Don't everyone sign up at once.
    Take breaks from the news and don't follow the 24-7 cycle.
    Stick to your meal times and sleep schedules.

    Do you want to help scientists monitor symptoms so they can get a better understanding of the disease? Download this app.
     
    Covid 19 and seasonality- more from Azraes
  • Azraes

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    COVID-19 and seasonality:

    So the weather thing and SARS-COV-2 isn't really something we know as of yet. First of all Flu is the influenza virus family which transmits better in winter due to a multitude of reasons and you can explore some here. Flus need cold and humid weather to thrive - doesn't mean they don't exist in summer, it's harder to transmit.

    SARS-COV-2 is the 7th Coronavirus that we have discovered and four of them cause common cold and others caused SARS and MERS. Typically the summer colds are caused by enteroviruses but there are about 200 viruses that cause symptoms we lump under the common cold. Preventive measures for colds has always been wash hands, reduce contact, etc - same advice we've given for COVID-19 transmission/infection reduction. But I digress, the cold-related coronaviruses are weaker in summer.
    SARS also weakened out in summer. MERS was more active in Spring in the Middle East which is similar to EU Summer weathers. Here's the summary of seasonality from the EU agency for disease prevention's recent report:
    The four coronaviruses that are endemic in human populations are responsible for 10–15% of common cold infections and display a marked winter seasonality in temperate climates, with a peak between December and April, but are hardly detected in the summer months [61-64]. The seasonality of coronaviruses might be driven, in part, by environmental conditions and host susceptibility, because coronaviruses are more stable under low and midrange relative humidity (20–50%) when the defence mechanisms of the airways are suppressed [65,66]. However, based on preliminary analyses of the COVID-19 outbreak in China and other countries, high reproductive numbers were observed not only in dry and cold districts but also in tropical districts with high absolute humidity, such as in Guangxi and Singapore [68]. There is no evidence to date that SARS-CoV-2 will display a marked winter seasonality, such as other human coronaviruses in the northern hemisphere, which emphasises the importance of implementing intervention measures such as isolation of infected individuals, workplace distancing, and school closures

    All studies that suggest that COVID-19 will wane in summer are experimental and subject to peer review. It is not confirmed it will wane in summer. The EU agency for disease prevention states:

    Survival in the environment: Recent publications have evaluated the survival of SARS-CoV-2 on different surfaces. The environmental stability of viable SARS-CoV-2 is up to 3 hours in the air post aerosolisation, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to 2–3 days on plastic and stainless steel, albeit with significantly decreased titres [69]. These findings are comparable with the results obtained for environmental stability of SARS-CoV-1. However, as these are results from experimental studies, they do not directly translate to fomite infectivity in the real world [69]. Different levels of environmental contamination have been described in rooms of COVID-19 patients, ranging from 1 positive out of 13 samples to 13 out of 15 samples testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 before cleaning. No air samples were positive in these studies, but one sample from an air exhaust outlet was positive indicating, according to the authors, that virus particles may be displaced by air and deposited on surfaces [69,70]. In a study of environmental contamination in a Chinese hospital during the COVID-19 outbreak, SARS-CoV-2 was detected in environmental samples from intensive care units (ICU) dedicated to COVID-19 care, a COVID-19- dedicated obstetric isolation ward, and a COVID-19-dedicated isolation ward. SARS-CoV-2 was also detected on objects such as the self-service printers used by patients to self-print the results of their exams, desktop keyboards and doorknobs. Virus was detected most commonly on gloves (15.4% of samples) but rarely on eye protection devices (1.7%) [72]. This evidence indicates that fomites may play a role in transmission of SARS-CoV-2 but the relative importance of this route of transmission compared to direct exposure to respiratory droplets is still unclear.

    TL;DR Everything currently suggests that we do not know based off the 6 earlier coronaviruses and the non-peer reviewed reports, but are hopeful it will be milder under summer conditions; however do not take chances or take it easy.
     
    virtual museums, attractions and zoos to explore
  • Deleted member 16516

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    Some virtual museums, attractions and zoos to explore if you're feeling bored.

    Museums:

    • Anne Franke Museum, Amsterdam, Netherlands - https://www.annefrank.org/en/museum/web-and-digital/
    • British Museum, London - https://britishmuseum.withgoogle.com/
    • Guggenheim, Bilbao, Spain - https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en
    • Hermitage Museum, St Petersburg, Russia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49YeFsx1rIw&feature=youtu.be
    • Louvre Museum Paris - https://www.louvre.fr/en/visites-en-ligne
    • MASP, Sao Paolo, Brazil - https://masp.org.br/en
    • Met Museum, New York - https://www.metmuseum.org/art/online-features/met-360-project
    • Musée d'Orsay, Paris - https://m.musee-orsay.fr/en/home.html
    • Musei Vaticani, Vatican City - http://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en/collezioni/musei/tour-virtuali-elenco.html
    • Museum Of London Docklands - https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/a...nue-hire/museum-london-docklands/virtual-tour
    • National Gallery Of Arts, Washington DC - https://www.nga.gov/
    • National Gallery, London - https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/visiting/virtual-tours
    • National Museum Of US Air Forces - https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/
    • Natural History Museum, London - https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/natural-history-museum
    • Palestine Museum - https://www.palmuseum.org/ehxibitions/virtual-exhibitions
    • Picasso Museum, Barcelona - http://www.bcn.cat/museupicasso/en/museum/presentation.html
    • Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam, Netherlands - https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/rijksmuseum
    • Royal Academy Of Arts, London - https://britishart.yale.edu/
    • Salvatore Dali Museum, Figueres, Spain - https://thedali.org/virtual-tour/
    • Tate Britain, London - https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/tate-britain/display/walk-through-british-art
    • The J. Paul Getty Museum, Los Angeles, United States - https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/the-j-paul-getty-museum
    • The Museum of Flight - https://www.museumofflight.org/Explore-The-Museum/Virtual-Museum-Online
    • The National Museum of Computing on Bletchley Park - https://britishart.yale.edu/
    • Uffizi Gallery, Florence, Italy - https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/uffizi-gallery
    • US Holocaust Museum - https://www.ushmm.org/teach/teaching-materials/primary-sources-collections/virtual-field-trip
    • Van Gogh Museum, Amsterdam, Netherlands - https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/van-gogh-museum
    • Virginia Living Museum - https://thevlm.org/
    • Women's History Museum, Virginia, USA - https://www.womenshistory.org/womens-history/online-exhibits
    • Yale Centre For British Art - https://britishart.yale.edu/

    Tourist Destinations:

    • Buckingham Palace, London - https://www.royal.uk/virtual-tours-buckingham-palace
    • Colosseum, Rome - https://tinyurl.com/thrprzf
    • Machu Picchu - https://www.youvisit.com/tour/machupicchu?pl=f
    • Northern Lights - https://explore.org/livecams/zen-den/northern-lights-cam
    • Pyramids - https://www.tripsavvy.com/virtual-field-trip-pyramids-12592
    • Stonehenge - https://tinyurl.com/wz3xgz7
    • Street Art with Google - https://streetart.withgoogle.com/en/
    • Taj Mahal, Agra, India - https://tinyurl.com/qpz7vmt
    • The Great Wall Of China - https://www.thechinaguide.com/destination/great-wall-of-china
    • Tour of Rome, Italy - https://tinyurl.com/s5vlzbc

    General Sites:

    • AirPano - https://www.airpano.com/
    • Berliner Philharominker - https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/home
    • ExoPlanets NASA - https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/
    • Legoland - https://www.legoland.dk/en/accommodation/hotel-legoland/virtual-tour/
    • NASA, Langley Research Centre - https://oh.larc.nasa.gov/oh/
    • The Kennedy Centre - https://www.kennedy-center.org/digitalstage/
    • Walt Disney Parks - https://tinyurl.com/v7qano5
    • Wellcome Collection - https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=rMGsprcVCAR

    Zoos:

    • African Animals - https://explore.org/livecams/african-wildlife/african-animal-lookout-camera
    • Atlanta Zoo - https://zooatlanta.org/panda-cam/
    • Cincinnati Zoo - https://www.facebook.com/events/2915534028492292/
    • Dublin Zoo - https://www.dublinzoo.ie/animals/animal-webcams/elephants/
    • Edinburgh Zoo - https://www.edinburghzoo.org.uk/webcams/panda-cam/
    • Explore.org Live Cams - https://explore.org/livecams
    • Flamingo Land - https://www.flamingoland.co.uk/virtual-tour/
    • Florida Aquarium - http://www.flaquarium.org/sea-span
    • Hirakawa Zoo, Japan - https://hirakawazoo.jp/animal/movie
    • International Wolf Centre - https://wolf.org/wolf-cams2/
    • Kansas City Zoo - https://www.kansascityzoo.org/animal-cams/
    • Melbourne Zoo - https://www.zoo.org.au/animal-house
    • National Aquarium, USA - https://www.aqua.org/Experience/live
    • National Zoo, Washington DC - https://nationalzoo.si.edu/webcams
    • Osaka Zoo - http://www.wombat-tv.com/
    • San Diego, California, Zoo - https://zoo.sandiegozoo.org/live-cams
    • Smithsonian, Washington DC - https://nationalzoo.si.edu/webcams
    • Yellowstone National Park - https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/photosmultimedia/virtualtours.htm
     
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    Stay on topic during lockdown
  • Redcrayon

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    Hi everyone. With the lockdown starting tomorrow, members will be using this thread for support, and we'd appreciate it if it could stay focused on matters related to the pandemic. We do have a general U.K. politics thread, Brexit is worth its own topics, and of course 'new news, new thread' is still valid for anything else.