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It is, and it's utterly fantastic. Holds up to this day. I think it's on Netflix?
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UK Defence Secretary Sir Michael Fallon resigns - UPDATE: Chief Whip Williamson appointed
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It is, and it's utterly fantastic. Holds up to this day. I think it's on Netflix?
Aye. Perfect time to watch it, it's very relevant. I think Netflix has it.
edit: Larcos gets his revenge
Yeah, I thought it was a bad move because he was doing an OK job managing the party without a majority and she trusted him, turns out the party is in self destruct mode and I'm expecting something else before too long.
The tories really are tearing themselves apart at this point. Between brexit, sexual harassment and having a scarecrow as a leader they are unable to do anything. Doesn't seem like they give a fuck about the country.
Thanks, I have always heard great things about the original so I do need to get round to watching it.
First post, hello everyone.
I'm not sure what to make of this specific situation. If this guy quit over touching a knee 20-30 years ago then I find that a little ridiculous. There's got to be more to this story. Back then poking, tweaking, twerking or whatever the kids do on their apps these days was not the norm. In order for people (Male and female alike,) to communicate they fancy each other they had to literally talk to each other and send physical signals instead of the electronic signals used today.
Its a bit disturbing to see people rabidly judging the actions of people many years ago by today's norms.
That's not to say there wasn't wrong doing, I'm certain there was but knee touching? I'm not seeing it.
I'm not sure what to make of this specific situation. If this guy quit over touching a knee 20-30 years ago then I find that a little ridiculous. There's got to be more to this story. Back then poking, tweaking, twerking or whatever the kids do on their apps these days was not the norm. In order for people (Male and female alike,) to communicate they fancy each other they had to literally talk to each other and send physical signals instead of the electronic signals used today.
Its a bit disturbing to see people rabidly judging the actions of people many years ago by today's norms.
That's not to say there wasn't wrong doing, I'm certain there was but knee touching? I'm not seeing it.
"It was acceptable 10 or 15 years ago" really pisses me off. They can never bring themselves to truly admit wrongdoing, there has to be excuse.
They've made that perfectly clear ever since Ravey Davey decided to gamble the future of the country on an internal tory argument. All the shit that has happened since then has been about shoring up the Tory party and fuck everyone else. And the joke is, the party is more fucked than ever.
The assumption is that there are other allegations we don't know about or at least that was the assumption. Certainly no-one sane thinks that Fallon should have gone just for that. Maybe Williamson used it as pretext to nick his job.
To be fair to Fallon, women weren't people back in 2002, and anyone was able to touch them regardless of their positions of power. We only discovered that in about 2012 when feminism was invented.
(nah there's clearly more he was jumping before came out)
(nah there's clearly more he was jumping before came out)
It's all any of them think about, they are absolute fucking scum with what is coming down the road.
They've never given a fuck about the country, all they care about is themselves and their donors. Nowadays we're getting stunning incompetence to go along with the sociopathy .
You might say that, I couldn't possibly comment
Oh Francis Urquhart, you legend.
Also, this one made me laugh. Easy joke for sure.
Define worse. Personally, I'm finding this all very entertaining and if it brings down the gov't then so much the better. Brexit has made them go insane.
Am I the only one who reads this as "I have done worse and been more forceful with other women"?
Quickly scanning his profile he would probably make a good Dalek, May can be his Davros.
The only silver lining was his desire to stop Boris fucking the country over for his CV.
I feel that's an unfair comparison . The Daleks are at least somewhat competent.
There is 'Babe' Ruth Davidson, the mild-mannered gay woman sticking it to Sturgeon and making gains in Tory-hating haggisland, an anti/soft brexiteer, non-manaic and all round seemingly likeable person. The prefect antidote to the current toxicity. Assuming she isn't secretly mental also.
As Frankie Boyle pointed out in a piece for the Guardian, there's a touch of BoJo in the way Ruth Davidson conducts herself.
As with most politicians, I suspect that she is a self-interested mental shitbag underneath the veneer.
As with most politicians, I suspect that she is a self-interested mental shitbag underneath the veneer.
That is sort-of true and a good point. However, she's nowhere near as wacky as Boris and whilst I am sure she is self-serving, as all politicians are, maybe she recognises that the best way to do that is to just be a normal, non-bastard, non-sex-criminal, non-swivel-eyed-racist-maniac alternative to the Keystone Cops act currently running the show. And if she's only pretending, I don't really care.
Oh, if we're going for Doctor Who parallels, there's an easier one for May:
A parody of Margaret Thatcher.
If she's any of that she won't be coming south of the border to deal with Boris and Mogg.
From the guardian live blog
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The first iPhone released in 2007, Facebook launched in 2004 poking, tweaking and twerking definitely weren't a thing then and the social media outrage phenomenon was still almost a decade away. My point stands I feel.
Williamson standing beside her, smiling, holding the knife behind his back.
Without coming across as overly personal, how old are you? Harassment was absolutely a thing people were aware of and something that you could lose your job over in the 90s and 2000s, iPhones and tinder and Facebook and twerking has fuck all to do with it mate.
Your point that groping women is fine because it was the only way to communicate with them prior to twitter?
Oh, if we're going for Doctor Who parallels, there's an easier one for May:
A parody of Margaret Thatcher.
May is a cross between a Weeping Angel & The Silence - she doesn't do anything while anyone is watching, and when they look away they forget all about her.
What are you talking about? People were aware of the problem of sexual harassement long before fucking Facebook turned up. Being in 2002 is not an excuse.
Of course not, who in the party would vote for him?
I'm 41 now and the change in acceptance over this kind of stuff in the past 20 years has been dramatic and dare I say blown a bit out of proportion in a lot of cases. It appears that a misplaced touch of a knee that is removed the second when asked is now cause for public outrage and I feel that its gone too far.
I don't know how relationships are supposed to start when people are no longer able to use subtle signals anymore.
Lol. Also wondering if it's ok now if your phone runs out of battery and you can't send the right string of emojis
No-one, but I wondered if there was any kind of back-door 'coronation' process that he could exploit, given that May is said to have anointed him.
Ok, I'm 33 and I somehow remember the following throughout the 90s and 2000s, in some order of importance.
A) Many, many episodes of the Simpsons that extensively referenced sexual harassment, including the classic episode "Homer Badman" which went into detail about the kind of public controversy that can emerge from a sexual harassment accusation.
B) Many, many talks at school, newspaper and magazine articles, other tv shows, soaps and countless other forms of media that referenced harassment as a generally bad thing.
C) A US president on the verge of impeachment over accusations of harassment, assault and infidelity that led to him committing perjury.
Do I need to go on? Are these signals subtle enough for you?
Well, there wasn't a members' vote on May because she ran unopposed after everyone else dropped out. That effectively turned into a coronation.
I don't want to point out that a whip using his dirt on other candidates to run unopposed and become prime minister is literally the plot of House of Cards, but a whip using his dirt on other candidates to run unopposed and become prime minister is literally the plot of House of Cards.
I think the issue here is that Bitsmuch thinks that losing your job over a hand on the knee is crazy but Fallon didn't lose his job because of that. He lost it either because of a raft of further accusations in his closet, as yet unvoiced to the public, or because this Gavin prick used the knee thing as a tissue-thin pretext to steal Fallon's job. I don't suppose anyone in their right mind thinks that putting your hand on someone's knee, once, at a dinner is grounds for losing your career.
UK is the subject of hostile takeover by a man that looks like Joe Root's coke addled younger brother and who keeps a Tarantula on his desk to scare people. Whisper his name...Gavin....
UK is the subject of hostile takeover by a man that looks like Joe Root's coke addled younger brother and who keeps a Tarantula on his desk to scare people. Whisper his name...Gavin....
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Also placing your hand uninvited on someone, in a professional environment, without any signals first, is pretty shit flirting
Hey how about that for an idea, if you're at work or you're at someone's workplace (say for a media interview) maybe don't touch them?
Fallon clearly got chucked because there was more going on, Hartley-Brewer said as much on one of the breakfast news programmes this morning.
I think the issue here is that Bitsmuch thinks that losing your job over a hand on the knee is crazy but Fallon didn't lose his job because of that. He lost it either because of a raft of further accusations in his closet, as yet unvoiced to the public, or because this Gavin prick used the knee thing as a tissue-thin pretext to steal Fallon's job. I don't suppose anyone in their right mind thinks that putting your hand on someone's knee, once, at a dinner is grounds for losing your career.
UK is the subject of hostile takeover by a man that looks like Joe Root's coke addled younger brother and who keeps a Tarantula on his desk to scare people. Whisper his name...Gavin....
Definitely, if Farron has done other worse things then so be it, but damn man, its a touch of a knee that's caused to current media frenzy and its that specific issue which concerns me. I've had women approach me using physical signals (Those were the days.) and I felt nothing but a bit flattered even if the advances weren't particularly wanted.
