UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19 (Tory majority confirmed)
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She's going to be on one of the panels tonight. Hope we can see fear in her eyes, hateful, bullshit-spreading arm of this evil Tory party.
the reason that johnson got knifed in 2016 was because he outlined a soft brexit, wonder if he has the room to see off the ERG or whether he cares anymore
Plus the shitrags and bbc will just be their propaganda outlet
People on here talking about fearing Jeremy Corbyn as a reason why Labour lost have completely missed the point — acquiesce to the demands of different leadership and you’ll never win. The war is with the media.
I agree with you. I'm really pro-european and would've voted for Labour if I had the chance, but some replies in here...a bit undemocratic.
Well, this is awfully disappointing, but not exactly surprising what with all the polls basically saying this was going to happen. Fully expect Trump will be re-elected too.
When Aberdeen is your saving grace you know things are fucked
It's not that bad up here, hope you get the job!
The MPs in the Labour Party and the Labour Party voters did. It’s just that Labour Party members don’t care.
A weird silver lining of this is it gives the ERG less leeway to throw their weight around going forward.
Because of their members voting system. Labour's membership is made up of the very left, Momentumites. And they'll vote in another Corbyn.
We all know Labour needs another Tony Blair, they have to veer more towards the right to have a chance at success again. But obviously without the war crimes this time.
No surprises there then. Labour will now spend the next 2 to 3 years ripping each other to shreds
What's the point though? Whoever Labours next leader is Murdoch will spend 5 years slagging them off and we'll be in the exact same place in 2024...
What's the point, if the Tories can lie, cheat and steal an election ? If they can't win, they'll find a way to rig it.
Left of the Labour party I hope stay on. The policies are there, but with someone without the bags of smears. Hopefully there'll be a resurgence. People in this country are thick as fucking shite, see chuds who pop into this thread. Fickle and dense. Another 5 years and the tenuous "labour left us with no money!" excuse will fade even more. Still hoping for a hung parliament but maybe once all the old cunts are dead there's a glimmer of hope
I'm a Conservative voter but I try and read a wide variety of sources for news to avoid this problem. I post and read here, on 4chan, The Telegraph, The Guardian, FT, The Times, and The Independent. I'm sure I'm in the minority on this site and that's fine by me, but engaging and reading a wide range of opinions, often times going out of my "comfort zone" has certainly helped my world view and opened my eyes to issues I may have glossed over before.
Yeah. A lot of people aren't massively engaged in politics and just see the big, bold headlines that shape the narrative.
A lot of Brexit was about bringing down the "London Establishment". When that same Establishment is seen as doing everything it can to prevent it, you can be sure people will rally behind BoJo and his promises to Get Brexit Done.
Well, it seems from the results... maybe anyone? It's not really pleasant, and I like Corbyn, but a loss this big is more than just the media given the 2017 results.
Aberdeen is the only place I've ever been when I've legitimately seen a full bar fight over someone playing a song on a jukebox.When Aberdeen is your saving grace you know things are fucked
It's not that bad up here, hope you get the job!
I'll have you guess which song it was. Hint it was a hit 80's song by a female American soul singer.
The polls were not lying when they said he was historically unpopular, to a degree where he was setting a record for net unpopularity relative to the other major party leader despite Boris being underwater.
Labour's gains in 2017 were despite him due to May's unpopularity, not because of him. The wrong lessons were taken away from that election.
140k deats due to austerity
A third of our children in poverty
Windrush
Austerity
Sure mate, I'm just as bad.
The UK may be worse off than the US. At least the US had the popular vote not go to their clown and is trying to impeach him. Your clown just potentially got a full majority.
Thank god I live in Canada. While the conservative wave came in, we were able to weather it with a Liberal minority.
Thank god I live in Canada. While the conservative wave came in, we were able to weather it with a Liberal minority.
Just think how she went from trusted Corbyn ally to outcast because she was seen as too Remain.
Same with Starmer.
I can see the backlash and Momentum need to drop the militants and focus on the remain focused majority of their support and back these sort of people to take over Labour.
He might. If the likes of Redwood, Baker, IDS get offed tonight, there's possible flexibility in pursuing a softer brexit.
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