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Oct 25, 2017
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If it is something they've been boasting or bragging about, or asking members of the party to get involved in, it's probably noted in case it could go public.

Such as, Tory MP appears bigoted against homosexuality or makes comments that appear homophobic. Next day, The Sun runs a headline saying male Tory MP from the day before asks male prostitutes to wear female perfume before snorting coke and getting banged for hours on end.

You know, the usual Tory hypocrisy or double standards.

Any worse than Stephen Milligan, though?
 

Ebullientprism

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Oct 25, 2017
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"Video exists of three males urinating on him."

There is your next Ambassador to the US. :D
 

theaface

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Oct 25, 2017
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Such as, Tory MP appears bigoted against homosexuality or makes comments that appear homophobic. Next day, The Sun runs a headline saying male Tory MP from the day before asks male prostitutes to wear female perfume before snorting coke and getting banged for hours on end.

There's no double standard here. After all, it's not gay if you close your eyes and they smell like a woman.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Yes Kwasi, get in there!

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any worse than Stephen Milligan, though?

At least he stayed away from the Class A substances

Milligan was found dead in his flat in Black Lion Lane, Chiswick, London, by his secretary Vera Taggart on 7 February 1994. Milligan had failed to appear in the House of Commons as expected, and so Taggart went to look for him.[4] Milligan's corpse was naked except for a pair of stockings and suspenders, with an electrical flex tied around his neck and a black bin liner over his head, with an orange segment in his mouth.[5] The coroner concluded that he had died in the early hours of 7 February.[4] The pathologists report into Milligan's death discounted the possibility of murder, lending weight to the belief that he died accidentally, as a result of autoerotic asphyxiation. No drugs or alcohol were found in his blood, and no substances were found to have contributed to his death.[4][6]

There's no double standard here. After all, it's not gay if you close your eyes and they smell like a woman.

The real Tory manifesto. Insider tips. Life hacks.

As for any American onlookers thinking I or others are being unfair. The satire and such happens here because the party has a history of shaming or sending messages about citizens private lives whilst doing the same things themselves.

Especially, historically, around LGBT issues and homosexuality.
 
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PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
Did they really put their job descriptions on the list, are they that easy to forget or something.

Anyway, it's Halloween and I now have the thought of Nicholas Soames pawing at some woman like Jabba the Hut gnawing away in my mind.
 
Oct 25, 2017
607
To repeat, this Twitter 'leak' hasn't been verified at all, doesn't come from a reliable source, and would be incredibly easy to falsify.
 

nopressure

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Oct 28, 2017
1,414
uhhh, so our government creates legislation while happily blackmailing a significant portion of the MPs that vote on it? There's even instances where illegal actions are ignored.

I feel like this is a big deal.
 

Rob_

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Oct 27, 2017
281
Edinburgh, Scotland
Okay, so the OP clears it up for me.

Going by what I read there, the list was compiled to act as a blackmail to ensure that the MP's mentioned voted with the government.

That is some pretty sleazy stuff in itself.

Is the above substantiated anywhere? Where did you get that piece of info from OP?
 

Mindwipe

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Oct 25, 2017
5,229
London
Yeah, this stuff is on top of the physical violence and intimidation, Westminster is a fucked up place, it's probably the best it's been at the moment.

Or threats to their posts/careers. Read All Out War, it's quite staggering the amount people are quite happy to go on the record that the reason people voted or campaigned certain ways pre-election was influenced by the whips and Cameron threatening their jobs, or offering to promote them if they acted with the government.

The whips office is literally a blackmail office. It's what they do (the entire concept should be banned tbh).
 

Rob_

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Oct 27, 2017
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Edinburgh, Scotland
I really am shocked, perhaps naively, that the list would be compiled as a blackmail tool.

If that is true, and I have not seen any direct evidence to suggest it is yet, that is just as big a story as the alleged abuse contained within the document.
 

Juan29.Zapata

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Oct 25, 2017
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Of all the countries I read about, I swear that the UK is the one that feels more dystopic and always leaves with me a feeling of hopelessness and dirty.

Hope you guys over there can make it a better country.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Still not seeing any discussion on Twitter, guess people are still trying to confirm whether or not the full list is real.
 

Moosichu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Of all the countries I read about, I swear that the UK is the one that feels more dystopic.

Not really, like a lot of countries it has a lot of good and a lot of bad.

The problem is that a referendum less than two years ago has caused to become quite self-destructive. It could have so easily gone the other way...
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Doesn't look like there's any child-rape so I guess it's a marked improvement.

Someone in the WhatsApp group "If you put WOMEN'S perfume on a child, doesn't that mean they're now an adult? One of my colleagues was putting women's perfume on men and it meant fucking them wasn't an act of homosexuality. Just asking questions".

Jokes aside, this country has had a damning history with paedophilia in positions of fame/power/influence.
 

Daphne

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Oct 27, 2017
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How the fuck is this not illegal? I mean it's bad enough MPs are doing this, but is this not subversting democracy by black mailing these mps?

This has perplexed me. I've been looking around the news sites and this doesn't seem to be a scandal at all; more like just the way it works and maybe let's add a few rules but not a big deal. Has British politics really become so jaded that blackmailing over sexual indiscretions and harassment has become normalised?
 

gosublime

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Oct 25, 2017
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Of all the countries I read about, I swear that the UK is the one that feels more dystopic and always leaves with me a feeling of hopelessness and dirty.

Hope you guys over there can make it a better country.

Would like to try, but the mess of Brexit is going to take pretty much everyone's focus for the next 5-10 years.
 

Beartruck

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Oct 25, 2017
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36 tories?! How many are there even in parliament?

Edit: Ah unverified. With the way british journalism is its as good as false then.
 

Hat22

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Oct 28, 2017
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This has perplexed me. I've been looking around the news sites and this doesn't seem to be a scandal at all; more like just the way it works and maybe let's add a few rules but not a big deal. Has British politics really become so jaded that blackmailing over sexual indiscretions and harassment has become normalised?

Isn't the sensationalist press in the UK mainly right wing? In the US it seems to be more balanced.
 

Juan29.Zapata

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Oct 25, 2017
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Colombia
Not really, like a lot of countries it has a lot of good and a lot of bad.

The problem is that a referendum less than two years ago has caused to become quite self-destructive. It could have so easily gone the other way...
Maybe it's because I only read bad news about them, but aside from Brexit, I can recall a former prime minister involved with pedophilia, porn regulation (for some reason), a Labour party that doesn't really work (but I guess it's improved since the latest elections), the racism and xenophobic attacks I've heard about. But I think it's because many movies and books I've read about have London or other places from the UK as setting which has biased me, so any bad news is essentially confirmation bias.
 

Rob_

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Oct 27, 2017
281
Edinburgh, Scotland
So you have Tory aides compiling a list detailing who within Westminster are sexually inappropriate with their staff ect. Instead of using this information to publicly shame them out of office, they use it to shore up votes for the government.

Instead of this being the main story on the countries most popular newspaper, they go with a story of an MP touching a female reporters leg.

This is being vastly under-reported by the MSM, and it is clear why.

The whole thing stinks.
 

Bluelote

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Oct 27, 2017
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not only their acts are awful but having these kind of idiots in power so open to blackmail is extremely dangerous... and this is in the UK with one of the most solid democracies on the world... imagine some other less fortunate countries...
 

FSP

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Oct 25, 2017
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If folks want to know exactly why this stuff is unreported, it's as much to do with UK libel law as conspiracy to prevent justice.

We have journals like Private Eye in this country that do their best, but it's easy to get sued here.

Also FWIW there is 0 reason to go after Rudd's entry on this list. "Going out with another MP" is not scandalous.