(UK) Green Party peer calls for 6pm curfew for men after the disappearance of woman, arrest of police officer for kidnap and murder.

Dec 2, 2017
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For context, this has been a high profile story in the UK for the past week

Police scrambled to reassure the public after an officer from an elite unit was arrested for the alleged kidnap and murder of a woman who vanished on her way home, and investigators searching for her found human remains.

Hope faded in the search for Sarah Everard, 33, after the Metropolitan police commissioner, Dame Cressida Dick, announced that police had made the discovery in woodland in Kent.



Dick said the marketing executive’s disappearance from Clapham, south-west London, on Wednesday last week was “every family’s worst nightmare”, while the arrest of a serving officer had sent “shockwaves and anger through the public and through the Met”.

PC Wayne Couzens, 48, was arrested on Tuesday at his home in Deal, Kent, on suspicion of kidnapping Everard, who vanished after leaving a friend’s house at around 9pm on 3 March and beginning a 50-minute walk home.

On Thursday, Scotland Yard said Couzens had been taken to hospital after receiving a head injury while in custody, but was soon discharged back to a cell. The Met police refused to provide any further details.

On Wednesday he had been arrested on suspicion of Everard’s murder and also of a separate allegation of indecent exposure. It followed searches in Kent, with remains found in woodland in Ashford. Couzens is in the elite parliamentary and diplomatic protection command, and his main role is protecting diplomatic premises. Officers in this role are usually armed and vetted.

Announcing the officer’s arrest at midnight on Tuesday, Met assistant commissioner Nick Ephgrave described the news as shocking and accepted that it would damage public confidence.

“This is a serious and significant development in our search for Sarah and the fact that the man who’s been arrested is a serving Metropolitan police officer is both shocking and deeply disturbing. I recognise the significant concern this will cause,” he said.

On Wednesday, Dick added: “The news today that it was a Metropolitan police officer who was arrested on suspicion of Sarah’s murder has sent shockwaves and anger through the public and through the Met. I speak on behalf of all my colleagues when I say that we are utterly appalled at this dreadful, dreadful news. Our job is to patrol the streets and to protect people.”

This has sparked a serious conversation about women's fears of walking alone at night, being harassed and attacked, and what the solution is, which led to the article in question. In particular, the advice of the police telling women to stay at home and be vigilant, rather than telling men to change their behaviour.


Green Party peer Jenny Jones has called for a 6pm curfew for men after the disappearance of Sarah Everard.
Human remains have been found and a male police officer is being held on suspicion of murder after Ms Everard, 33, vanished while walking home from a friend’s flat in south London on Wednesday March 3.
Baroness Jones, who was a member of the London Assembly for many years, told peers during a debate on Wednesday: “In the week that Sarah Everard was abducted and, we suppose, killed—because remains have been found in a woodland in Kent—I argue that, at the next opportunity for any Bill that is appropriate, I might put in an amendment to create a curfew for men on the streets after 6 pm. I feel this would make women a lot safer, and discrimination of all kinds would be lessened.”

The case has sparked a debate on the safety of women with many going online to recount their own experiences ahead of a planned vigil this weekend.


And there is going to be a vigil on Clapham Common Bandstand this weekend at 6pm called Reclaim These Streets, to make the streets and public spaces safer for women.
 

Dwebble

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
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A truly awful story, and there absolutely needs to be a sea-change in the education of young men and the messaging around crimes against women.

I suspect that this suggestion wasn't 100% made in all seriousness, though.
 
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WriterInTheDark
Dec 2, 2017
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A truly awful story, and there absolutely needs to be a sea-change in the education of young men and the messaging around crimes against women.

I suspect that this suggestion wasn't 100% made in all seriousness, though.
No but the original topic fell for the Twitter post that said she was urging it, suggesting she meant it seriously so I thought this sounded better.

for more context overall regarding Sarah Everard

Wednesday, 3 March

Ms Everard goes missing after leaving a friend’s house in Clapham, south London, at about 9pm.

Saturday, 6 March
The Metropolitan Police issues an appeal over Ms Everard’s disappearance and releases a CCTV image of her. Police said she was thought to have walked through Clapham Common after leaving her friend’s flat and heading towards her home in Brixton. The journey should have taken around 50 minutes.

Sunday, 7 March
Police release footage taken from a private doorbell-type camera showing Ms Everard walking alone along the A205 Poynders Road towards Tulse Hill, south of Brixton. It is unclear if she reached home.
She was last seen wearing a green rain jacket, navy blue trousers with a white diamond pattern, and turquoise and orange trainers, and was thought to have been wearing green earphones and a white beanie hat.
The investigation into her disappearance is being led by Scotland Yard’s Specialist Crime Command because of the “complex nature” of the probe, which combines searches with house-to-house enquiries.

Monday, 8 March
Scotland Yard says it remains “open minded as to all possibilities” over Ms Everard’s disappearance, confirming the search remains a missing personsinvestigation.
Specialist officers are drafted in from a cross the force and police say they received more than 120 calls from the public regarding the case. They ask anyone who may have relevant dash cam or other footage to come forward.

Tuesday, 9 March
Sniffer dogs search gardens in streets around the search site near Ms Everard’s envisaged route home and in the nearby Oaklands Estate. Officers also search a pond in Clapham Common and drains along the A205.
Fresh images of Ms Everard are also released of her wearing the coat in which she disappeared, in another appeal for the public’s help. Later that day, the Met sets up a cordon around the Poynders Court housing complex on Poynders Road as part of the search, with forensics officers seen examining the area.

Midnight, Tuesday 9 March
The Met announces it has arrested a police officer at an address in Kent in connection with Ms Everard’s disappearance.
Assistant Commissioner Nick Ephgrave says the fact the man is a serving police officer is “both shocking and deeply disturbing”. The Met says a woman has also been arrested at the same location on suspicion of assisting an offender.
The man and woman have been taken into custody. Detective chief inspector Katherine Goodwin says the force is still “doing everything we can to find Sarah”.
Morning, Wednesday 10 March
The Met reveals the officer arrested on Tuesday was not on duty at the time of Ms Everard’s disappearance, but Asst Comm Ephgrave initially refuses to provide details of the offence on which the officer has been arrested on suspicion of or how long he has served on the force.
Detectives begin searching two locations in Kent including a property in Deal and woodland near Ashford. A tent was erected outside a house in Freemens Way, in Deal, and a car was seen being taken away from the property.
A neighbour told ITV News that a police officer lives at the address with his wife and two children. “They just seemed like a normal, regular family, there was nothing strange about them at all,” she said, adding police were digging up the garden.
Ms Everard’s uncle, Nick, talks to the media to say the family are “distraught” – and that “things are utterly dire”. He tells Sky News they are “waiting for positive news from the police”.

Afternoon, Wednesday 10 March
Scotland Yard confirms the police officer arrested over Ms Everard’s disappearance has been arrested on suspicion of murder.
He is later identified as Wayne Couzens, a 48-year-old serving in the force’s Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command.
He was held on Tuesday evening on suspicion of kidnap, before being further arrested on suspicion of murder and a separate allegation of indecent exposure.
Evening, Wednesday 10 March
Metropolitan Police commissioner Dame Cressida Dick announces human remains have been found during the search for Ms Everard.
The discovery was made in an area of woodland in Ashford, Kent. Police have yet to identify the remains.

Morning, Thursday 11 March
Police are continuing to question the officer arrested on suspicion of the kidnap and murder of Ms Everard.
And something that only happened this afternoon

The police officer arrested on suspicion of murdering missing Sarah Everard has been taken to hospital with head injuries, Scotland Yard has confirmed.
Wayne Couzens, 49, was injured during his second night in custody where he is being questioned over the alleged kidnap and murder of Miss Everard.
He was rushed to hospital with head injuries but after being treated by medics was discharged and returned to custody.
A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "The suspect was taken to a hospital for treatment to a head injury sustained while in custody. He has since been discharged and returned to custody."
There is no suggestion anyone else was involved in the incident and it is understood the matter has now been referred to the Department for Professional Standards.
 

Doctor_Thomas

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Oct 27, 2017
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As ridiculous as the statement sounds, one of the things I sort of consistently read from women the past few days is that if there were no men about for a night, what would they do - answers like walk home alone, walk through park, go jogging with headphones in, those sort of things.

It's not right. Her point is that too many of the restrictions are put on women - women are told to stay in groups, stay in contact, holds keys in their fist, let people know where they are etc - never on men.

As you can imagine, the idea of women sharing their experiences has been met with the usual respect and attempt to learn from certain parts of twitter.
 

Masterspeed

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Oct 25, 2017
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England
A truly awful story, and there absolutely needs to be a sea-change in the education of young men and the messaging around crimes against women.

I suspect that this suggestion wasn't 100% made in all seriousness, though.
Fuck it, do it. I’m in England and men here are disgusting towards women sometimes.

Women abuse over here is still just a “lol rape is just a joke” type of thing.

I won’t name of course but every close girl-friend I’ve had has been raped before and it just comes off to some people as a “boys will be boys” I hate it, it’s disgusting.
 

Temascos

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's horrific that this happened, and I can get where Jenny is coming from. There's a lack of safe places for women (Or trans-women even) to be without being harassed that we as men take for granted. Like, just going to the station without being cat-called must sound fantastic.
 

LogicAirForce

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Oct 25, 2017
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Would love this actually. I've always wanted to go walk around late at night but men have made it far too dangerous.
 

Septy

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Nov 29, 2017
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It’s nice we finally got a thread with context. But it’s sad that many people in the other thread support this while entirely missing the point.
 

thethickofit

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Feb 1, 2018
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Ah yes, even more excuses for British TERFs to make it harder for trans women to transition. I can imagine an upper-class cis white woman shrieking about how only trans women who are quote-unquote "fully transitioned" and have gone through the grueling, demeaning GRC process should be allowed to step outdoors.
 

JackSwift

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Oct 28, 2017
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I get the need/want for the curfew for men, but that means the only men on the streets would be the police