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UK must submit written Brexit proposals by Sept 30 or it's 'over', says Finnish PM
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Hmm, has this become the official position of the EU or is it just a few of their leaders holding this opinion?
Even if its only the position of one leader, one veto is enough to sink any proposal because they need to be unanimous.
The extension requires support from every country. As of right now, most countries are not pleased with UK's lack of communication, and UK has a lot of work to do to get them all onboard in time to get the extension.
I am sure the EU Council (execituves) can cobble something in case of the a single veto, but they would be stupid to do this if multiple countries don't support the extension.
I can't imagine the frustration at European leaders who granted an extension only for there to not only have been zero progress in that time, but for the UK to actually made things worse.
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"We have now shared in written form a series of confidential technical non-papers which reflect the ideas the UK has been putting forward," a British government spokesman said.
"We will table formal written solutions when we are ready, not according to an artificial deadline, and when the EU is clear that it will engage constructively on them as a replacement for the backstop."
"We will table formal written solutions when we are ready, not according to an artificial deadline, and when the EU is clear that it will engage constructively on them as a replacement for the backstop."
"We have the formal written solutions here, but she goes to another school and you wouldn't know her"
That ego... The British are really struggling with dealing with the fact they are no longer the great British Empire.
I have a client that's due to publish a corporate white paper by the end of this month. It's on a fairly niche, low-impact subject, with only a few people who need to review / approve drafts. It'll still get delayed.
The odds of a proposal that will define the future of the country being done by then are not good.
The odds of a proposal that will define the future of the country being done by then are not good.
The most amusing part is that "when we're ready" still has to be within a four-week period of 30th September.
It's like a child who won't come in from playing in the garden to have dinner, but you know they're really hungry, so you let them have a minor victory and come in on their own terms... about thirty seconds after you'd originally asked them to.
More like they've never had a plan beyond May's deal and they're hoping to crash out by pure negligence while the MPs are on leave.
I think it's a bluff (or some form of political theatre). Because the person who doesn't want an extension more than anyone else is Boris Johnson (as he's staked his political reputation on leaving the EU on Oct 31 with or without a deal). And if all he has to do is guarantee he won't get one is not to submit any alternative arrangements by the end of the month then that's great, as he wasn't planning to do that anyway.
Lol, then it is over.
I hope both the UK and EU commission are prepared for a stalemate until a few days before.
I see nothing on both sides that reflects compromise, which means we are far from any form of agreement, and are still deeply within the rhetoric phase.
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And there's the proof.
I hope both the UK and EU commission are prepared for a stalemate until a few days before.
I see nothing on both sides that reflects compromise, which means we are far from any form of agreement, and are still deeply within the rhetoric phase.
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And there's the proof.
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I'm in the EU and getting so frustrated by now by Boris and his antics that I've almost started to root for a no-deal Brexit just for this to be over with, and to rob Boris of the chance to go down in history as a great negotiator. I'm not surprised even EU leaders feel the same.
Please just let it end.
Please just let it end.
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Given how she looks when she's been seen in parliament, she's loving watching BJ flail.
When you want to act tough but also want pity because you think the other guy is being mean.
They 100% knew this would happen when they granted the extension, it was written in the stars, we all saw it.
The world's economy is about to enter a tepid phase and the UE is no exception. Nobody wants a bad Brexit, specially now. So if some other member states feel that they could still use some more time for extra readiness, they'll probably allow it. No country wants to be remembered as the one that facilitated a shitty Brexit at the worst possible moment.
That said, a lot of countries have already written off the UK. The general consensus is that Brexit has become a horrible drain and that the EU should start focusing its strenghts elsewhere while the UK fixes itself. So it could really go either way. In any case, the UK is not getting anything out of it without going back to the negotiation table with a new proposal. It is what it is.
That said, a lot of countries have already written off the UK. The general consensus is that Brexit has become a horrible drain and that the EU should start focusing its strenghts elsewhere while the UK fixes itself. So it could really go either way. In any case, the UK is not getting anything out of it without going back to the negotiation table with a new proposal. It is what it is.
'it's over' is kind of a strange phrase, seeing as even if no-deal happens, this whole mess will carry on for years and years.
Dear other EU countries,
PLEASE HELP.
I know you're frustrated. Me too. I'm very, very frustrated and scared.
Thanks,
Thomas
PLEASE HELP.
I know you're frustrated. Me too. I'm very, very frustrated and scared.
Thanks,
Thomas
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Let's get Norway (with some help from people from the Normandy) to conquer Britain again, it worked out great the last time.
Only takes a single member to say no on extension. Sooner or later that will happen.
If parliament prefers Revoke to No Deal, Johnson can't do anything about it.
That's not going to happen IMO. There is nothing to gain from such move and no country will break out of of the EU consensus even if some do not agree they will still vote for extension if majority wants it, no country will die on hill for this. Also that country would just be treated as the "bad guy" by media.