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Oct 25, 2017
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First weekend UK boxed sales of Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII are down almost 50% compared with last year's Call of Duty: WWII.

The sales are also down 59% compared with its direct predecessor, 2015's Black Ops III.

It's the weakest start for a boxed Call of Duty game since 2007's Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

These figures only include physical units, so do not factor in sales of digital downloads - which have been increasing significantly in recent years. Indeed, Activision has since revealed that Black Ops IIII is its biggest digital day one launch ever, and that on day one 'the total number of people who connected online to play Black Ops 4 increased from last year's release'.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/artic...-call-of-duty-launch-sales-lowest-in-11-years
 

Becks'

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Kodama4

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was the digital number high enough to offset a 50% drop in physical sales though?? Physical in the UK is usually high 800k right..
 

Welfare

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Oct 26, 2017
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People are switching to digital at an extraordinary rate. Retail only charts are very inaccurate.
 

benzopil

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well yeah, you can't sell it after finishing a campaign in 4 hours, makes sense to go digital
 

Steroyd

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't get it.

Why are Fifa, Ass Creed and now BOF4 seeing a significant dip in physical sales whereas Forza 4 Horizon WHICH IS ON GAMESPASS saw sales go up compared to the previous iteration.

That said I'd love to know if BOF4 made up the shortfall but all we have is Best. Digital. Ever. Which makes sense because a disc for a multiplayer only game has shit re-sell value and pointless.
 

ghostcrew

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Oct 27, 2017
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BO4 is the kind of online only, always in your system game

It makes no sense to go physical for it

It makes sense to go physical when it costs £59.99 digitally! I'm an always digital person and I bought a disc in a store because I got it for £44.99. Digital price of BO4 was shocking.
 

Alucardx23

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Nov 8, 2017
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I might be going crazy here, but this might just be a sign of how people are migrating to buy digital instead of physical copies.
 

Flon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I suppose I'm not too surprised. Anecdotal but pretty much everyone I know who are into this series have recently moved over to digital. Them preordering and having the preload with the bonus points helped a lot.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Belarus
I don't get it.

Why are Fifa, Ass Creed and now BOF4 seeing a significant dip in physical sales whereas Forza 4 Horizon WHICH IS ON GAMESPASS saw sales go up compared to the previous iteration.

That said I'd love to know if BOF4 made up the shortfall but all we have is Best. Digital. Ever. Which makes sense because a disc for a multiplayer only game has shit re-sell value and pointless.
Because gamepass increases the sales, more people playing the game - more people buying it. It's all about players, not sales anymore
 

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Digital here. Personally, I've been moving pretty much all of my game purchases to digital as of late. amazon.ca, Best Buy, etc... have been significantly more unreliable than in past for shipping games on time.
 

Terbinator

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Oct 29, 2017
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Yikes... I remember back in the glory days of MW it was pulling a million at physical.
All things that go up must come down I guess
For launch weekend in the UK? I'd be surprised given MW1 was given so different from the prior games and the only real sample any one would have had of it was the beta where you had to go begging for codes from FZT/CoD forum. Word of mouth absolutely catapuled MW1.
 

Bruno MB

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Oct 25, 2017
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Call of Duty Series UK Retail

[Week 45, 2007] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (ACTIVISION) < 215,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2008] CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 430,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2009] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,600,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2010] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,800,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2011] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,773,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2012] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,386,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2013] CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 690,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2014] CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 730,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2015] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 635,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2016] CALL OF DUTY: INFINITE WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 328,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2017] CALL OF DUTY: WWII (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 515,000 / NEW
[Week 41, 2018] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS 4 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 260,000 / NEW
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't get it.

Why are Fifa, Ass Creed and now BOF4 seeing a significant dip in physical sales whereas Forza 4 Horizon WHICH IS ON GAMESPASS saw sales go up compared to the previous iteration.

That said I'd love to know if BOF4 made up the shortfall but all we have is Best. Digital. Ever. Which makes sense because a disc for a multiplayer only game has shit re-sell value and pointless.
because FH4 had a massive amount of hype behind it, enough to offset the shift to digital. The other games apparently didn't.
 

Kodama4

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Oct 25, 2017
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For launch weekend in the UK? I'd be surprised given MW1 was given so different from the prior games and the only real sample any one would have had of it was the beta where you had to go begging for codes from FZT/CoD forum. Word of mouth absolutely catapuled MW1.

Might want to check Bruno's post below yours
 

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[Week 45, 2007] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (ACTIVISION) < 215,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2008] CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 430,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2009] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,600,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2010] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,800,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2011] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,773,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2012] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,386,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2013] CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 690,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2014] CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 730,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2015] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 635,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2016] CALL OF DUTY: INFINITE WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 328,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2017] CALL OF DUTY: WWII (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 515,000 / NEW
[Week 41, 2018] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS 4 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 260,000 / NEW

The week number does help give some context on this too. Closer to the holidays = more sales.
 

Penny Royal

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any chart that doesn't include digital these days is irrelevant, and even in those that do (e.g. NPD) their inability to track the whole market due to publishers/platform holders not sharing data also leaves huge gaps in market information.

I mean it's been like this since PC sales went majority digital, but physical-only trackers are now active sources of misinformation about markets outside of saying 'physical sales are down'.
 

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Those UK numbers are NOT a good indicator anymore. We already saw that with AC Odyssey and Shadow of the Tomb Raider ; those games were doing great despite there slower start in UK.
 

Theorry

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Oct 27, 2017
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Call of Duty Series UK Retail

[Week 45, 2007] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (ACTIVISION) < 215,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2008] CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 430,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2009] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,600,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2010] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,800,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2011] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,773,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2012] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,386,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2013] CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 690,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2014] CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 730,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2015] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 635,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2016] CALL OF DUTY: INFINITE WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 328,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2017] CALL OF DUTY: WWII (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 515,000 / NEW
[Week 41, 2018] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS 4 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 260,000 / NEW

That difference between 2018 and 2010.
 

Certinfy

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Oct 29, 2017
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Wonder how many of those sales were made up digitally, especially considering the game is £60 on the PSN and XBL stores.
 

Masterspeed

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Oct 25, 2017
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The week number does help give some context on this too. Closer to the holidays = more sales.

Not only that, I assume a lot of people (like me) want it but I plan on waiting for Red Dead Redemption 2 later this month. Plus, most workers in UK get paid monthly and by the end of the month, which again is why I'm getting RDR2 rather than this. Still totally buying it though.
 

dex3108

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Oct 26, 2017
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Those UK numbers are NOT a good indicator anymore. We already saw that with AC Odyssey and Shadow of the Tomb Raider ; those games were doing great despite there slower start in UK.

Odyssey earned more money in first week compared to all current-gen AC titles but they never said numbers so there is chance that it did sell less.
 

Raijinto

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Oct 28, 2017
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Call of Duty Series UK Retail

[Week 45, 2007] CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE (ACTIVISION) < 215,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2008] CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 430,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2009] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 2 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,600,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2010] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,800,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2011] CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,773,000 / NEW
[Week 46, 2012] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 1,386,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2013] CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 690,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2014] CALL OF DUTY: ADVANCED WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 730,000 / NEW
[Week 45, 2015] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 635,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2016] CALL OF DUTY: INFINITE WARFARE (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 328,000 / NEW
[Week 44, 2017] CALL OF DUTY: WWII (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 515,000 / NEW
[Week 41, 2018] CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS 4 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) - 260,000 / NEW

Damn Black Ops really was an event huh. Wonder if we'll ever see that again any time soon.
 

GamerDude

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Oct 28, 2017
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I don't get it.

Why are Fifa, Ass Creed and now BOF4 seeing a significant dip in physical sales whereas Forza 4 Horizon WHICH IS ON GAMESPASS saw sales go up compared to the previous iteration.

That said I'd love to know if BOF4 made up the shortfall but all we have is Best. Digital. Ever. Which makes sense because a disc for a multiplayer only game has shit re-sell value and pointless.

That's kind of a strange thing to be perplexed by. Games are individual entities. So an outcome for a few games does not mean it should be expected for all.

Forza Horizon releases less frequently than the rest of those games you mentioned, and has been consistently growing as a series. I'm surprised anyone thought it would sell less than #3. The third game really took the series to the next level, and #4 is the first game after that. So the momentum would logically continue. Not to mention that its reviews are super high too. And it's set in the UK which helps with sales out that way. Game Pass has also been aiding sales for first party games.