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UK PoliticsERA |OT1| - Strong and Stable Government? No. Coalition Of Chaos! PART 2
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Probably his old mate Corbyn twisting his arm to help in trying to brush the anti seminism issue under the rug.
Too little, too late. If he genuinely cared about the party's reputation, he'd have gone months/years ago, rather than belligerently arguing the semantics of what he meant about Hitler and Zionism; a subject he shouldn't have gone near in the first place. Good riddance.
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I think it was most certainly a jump-before-push thing given his disciplinary hearing being so close.
Pretty reasonable for a company not to be involved in politics. Also, the Conservatives have not grasped the idea that if they want more people to vote for them outside of their angry old people base then provide policies that they will like.
Also, good riddance Ken Livingstone. Anti-Semitism should not be welcome anywhere.
Boy, time sure flies, it feels like only yesterday I was dunking on Tim Farron for being a bigoted asshole, and now look what he's up to:
What's that Toto? Why yes, yes that is a bigoted dog-whistle he's blowing!
Tim has taken a look around, really put in the hard yards, and realised the truth. The problems of today aren't caused by racism, or sexism, or inequality, or any of that nonsense. No! It's those gosh darned uppity minorities and their demands to be treated fairly. How dare those poofters say it's wrong for him to call them sinners! How dare those dirty homos demand he respect their humanity and afford them the rights they deserve!
Any Lib Dems who defended this man, out of some misplaced sense of loyalty or some misguided belief he had a good heart, you were had. He should have never led your party and should be repudiated and rebuked in the strongest terms possible by your leadership and membership. At this point he's as poisonous as Nick Clegg and should be treated as such.
What's that Toto? Why yes, yes that is a bigoted dog-whistle he's blowing!
Tim has taken a look around, really put in the hard yards, and realised the truth. The problems of today aren't caused by racism, or sexism, or inequality, or any of that nonsense. No! It's those gosh darned uppity minorities and their demands to be treated fairly. How dare those poofters say it's wrong for him to call them sinners! How dare those dirty homos demand he respect their humanity and afford them the rights they deserve!
Any Lib Dems who defended this man, out of some misplaced sense of loyalty or some misguided belief he had a good heart, you were had. He should have never led your party and should be repudiated and rebuked in the strongest terms possible by your leadership and membership. At this point he's as poisonous as Nick Clegg and should be treated as such.
I didn't even think it was luck so much as the Tories being revealed as wearing no clothing following the post-ref circus, and Labour naturally benefiting from that. I don't think they'll have as much luck if snap elections were to be called later this year.
Also, I do fear that, even if the Tories still retain a hold of the government if there is an autumn snap election, there is a real chance the UK might find itself with Prime Minister Rees-Mogg, which is a frightening proposal.
Amazing, he still digging the hole.
I can't believe he's trying to pretend his religion isn't the issue but the modern world is.
Yeah uh, there's not really an excuse on this one - especially when he's aiming so abstract. That is far more applicable to minorities, who are generally trying to not be screwed over, than little Englanders, who are gleefully screwing those people over.
It seems Farron's entire career since resigning has centered around "There's absolutely nothing wrong with me, it's the whole world that's bigoted, anti-Christian, and intolerant towards my beliefs"
Labour has officially confirmed as party policy that trans women are women.
If you are a woman you can stand on all women shortlists, become a women's officer and otherwise expect to be treated as a woman.
I await the swift resignation of any and all transphobes from the party, may the exit door hit them hard enough on the arse that they proceed to get directly in the sea.
If you are a woman you can stand on all women shortlists, become a women's officer and otherwise expect to be treated as a woman.
I await the swift resignation of any and all transphobes from the party, may the exit door hit them hard enough on the arse that they proceed to get directly in the sea.
This was announced a little while ago and I think about 300 members resigned from the party.
It's been the unofficial understanding for many years,but now it's officially passed the NEC.
It's an extremely and pleasantly broad position, not requiring any GRA or medical certification nonsense. Trans women are women in the eyes of the Labour party, full stop.
Mail is attacking the Lords again, using another of their famous 'polls' to 'prove' their point. The really overuse the word Fury, huh.
Express is, as usual, pandering nonsensical bollocks to the elderly.
God, the state of our press is so depressing.
Express is, as usual, pandering nonsensical bollocks to the elderly.
God, the state of our press is so depressing.
Not being very privy of UK politics, I thought Tories would try their hardest to not go to anticipated GEs as they know they might lose seats, thus clinging tooth and nail to their current position of (slim) power to not lose it completely
Wow Corbyn made her pull out the "You want to kill capitalism" line. Most people I know kinda want that.
To echo our Lib Dem friends - he could only use that attack if he thought Brexit was a bad thing. Corbyn and formal labour policy is that brexit should happen.
He's had a couple of good PMQs before today focusing on Brexit, he doesn't get anywhere on NHS questions because he hits a wall of statistics. Then again people are saying he avoided brexit because of some untimely comments from within the party that May would bring up.
Where do I sign?
If Corbyn is a socialist (or any other brand of economic left), I can definitely see why he is okay with Brexit. The EU definitely has redeeming qualities (like the aim for continental union) but economically speaking it is a neoliberal institution i.e. edulcorated capitalism, and practices like austerity can be seen as punishing the lower class for the failures of the ruling class.
Unless the EU changes it's tune someone like Corbyn will be hardly interested in fighting for it so he just dodges the issue to avoid to lose consensus either side
I can see his play of his ultimate socialist utopia being a lot more free to pursue its goals, but it's gonna be impossible for him to convince remain voters like myself that the pain is gonna be worth it, compared to a soft brexit or binning the thing.
So far he's just content to let May fumble it, completely avoiding the burden of convincing Remain voters to vote for him as the Tories are doing the job for him
From a socialist perspective, I don't expect him to pursue a 100% Brexit anyway, and rather being interested in elements like the free movement of people (Schengen area and all) or the ECHR, but he definitely can't wholly side with capitalists that in the end are still behind an imperialist agenda
If he becomes the future UK PM he proably can do it less painfully than other countries as they still have their own currency, while countries that are adopting the Euro like mine cannot drop it without disastrous consequences.
For the ones like me the better option instead is to send left-wing politicians in the EU Parliament to upend their agenda that way and set up a form of "eurocommunism".
But I can't blame Corbyn's refusal to siding with such an organisation as I've come to hate neoliberals with a passion too the last few months
The EU is not neoliberal. Neoliberals believe in deregulated markets, the EU is very interventionist as my email inbox full of gdpr notifications shows.
And capitalism isn't going anywhere. The fact that Corbyn is an old school socialist is why he is so unpopular.
And capitalism isn't going anywhere. The fact that Corbyn is an old school socialist is why he is so unpopular.
An extra £2k per household over the next 15 years is needed to fund the NHS and prevent a decade of misery
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44230033
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44230033
Worked so well Gove tried to get in.
He's actually more dislikeable than May which is quite impressive. A loathsome little man.
Having said that, he is in the best UK politics video ever made.
He's actually more dislikeable than May which is quite impressive. A loathsome little man.
Having said that, he is in the best UK politics video ever made.
My reaction was more
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Nobody likes him, he is an untrustworthy back-stabber and just plain weird.
She'll crumble too, in time. The mask has slipped in the past.
Not surprising, given May's entire career is built around her being opposed to anybody having any kind of rights at all.
"Jeremy Corbyn's views could drive Jewish people from UK ~ Jonathan Arkush(outgoing president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews) "
Did the conversation change from "Corbyn is ignorant/passive to anti-semitism" to "Corbyn is anti-semitic"? Maybe I've not been paying attention.
Arkush does go on to say:
Wearing his opinion very much on his sleeve there...
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And for your daily dose of misery - "Two in five GPs in England intend to quit within five years – survey"
The particularly worrying figure in this is that 61% of doctors over 50 in the survey intended to quit within five years, and if you combine that with what we already know about junior doctors...
Did the conversation change from "Corbyn is ignorant/passive to anti-semitism" to "Corbyn is anti-semitic"? Maybe I've not been paying attention.
Arkush does go on to say:
Wearing his opinion very much on his sleeve there...
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And for your daily dose of misery - "Two in five GPs in England intend to quit within five years – survey"
The particularly worrying figure in this is that 61% of doctors over 50 in the survey intended to quit within five years, and if you combine that with what we already know about junior doctors...
That article rolls back the rhetoric twice from "holds antisemitic views" to "delegitimising the state of Israel is antisemitic" to "anti Israel".
Sounds like he considers not thinking the slowly growing occupation of the Gaza strip is fine and dandy or that shooting all those Palestinians recently was fine and dandy as antisemitic.
Sounds like he considers not thinking the slowly growing occupation of the Gaza strip is fine and dandy or that shooting all those Palestinians recently was fine and dandy as antisemitic.
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