="PJV3, post: 18070332, member: 1009"]don't know anything about Hatton except he flogs property in the Med, I'm half expecting him to be kicked out by Wednesday.
He won't get deselected. He'll be fine and have the full confidence of the partyA Welsh Conservative MP has been charged in connection with allegations over fraudulent expenses claims.
Christopher Davies, MP for Brecon and Radnorshire, is accused of two offences of making a false instrument and one of providing false or misleading information for allowance claims.
The CPS said he was due to appeared before Westminster Magistrates' Court in March.
It said the charges followed a review of evidence submitted by police.
He won't get deselected. He'll be fine and have the full confidence of the party
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47320171
Chris Williamson really is a colossal shithouse.
I suspect he'll be eased back into the party in a few weeks.
Keep calling him an anti-Semite and ignore that story he tweeted
This « anti-semitism » bullshit with Corbyn is the same we get in France with Melenchon and the same Sanders gets in the US.
This is getting ridiculous and... obvious.
Antisemetism is a real problem.Are you trying to say there isn't a problem and it's some sort of conspiracy?
Antisemetism is a real problem.
The focus on antisemetism/bigotry on the Left and ignoring of antisemetism/bigotry on the Right is part of the wider problem of having a rabidly right wing press driving the political conversation in this country and around the world.
It's not a conspiracy, any more than the vast majority of the press backing the Tories at General Elections is a conspiracy.
Well it is ignoring it because the people who are anti-semitic or islamaphobic on the right are being ignored in favour of a singular focus on issues on the left.Everyone knows the right are racists and anti-semites. There no discussion to be had because nobody on the left is disagreeing. That's not ignoring it, it's a "water is wet" situation.
The Conservative MP Bob Blackman retweeted an anti-Muslim post from Tommy Robinson, yet he did not even get a slap on the wrist from the party. In fact, depite having subsequently hosted anti-Muslim extremist in parliament (Tapan Ghosh), shared an Islamophobic story on Facebook, and been found as a member of a number of Islamophobic social-media groups, the party seems to have no real concern and the prime minister even chose to campaign with him.
He's not alone. Conservative MP Nadine Dorries shared a tweet from Tommy Robinson before using far-right tropes against Sadiq Khan, Yasmine Alibhai-Brown and Muslims more generally and – despite being personally against same-sex marriage – weaponised gay rights to attack Muslims. Unlike Blackman, she didn't even apologise once she was found out.
And I could go on – whether it is Conservative MP Andrew Rosindell's Facebook account being found to have joined a "Free Tommy" group, or Conservative MPs Jacob Rees-Mogg, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson meeting Steve Bannon, who famously praised Tommy Robinson as representing the working class. Johnson's burqa comments have led to many claiming that he is using Islamophobia as part of a populist, Trump-like appeal to anti-Muslims in the party.
Yet the party remains silent and believes it can get away with ignoring allthose who say that action must be taken, whether it is senior Conservatives, Muslim representative groups, hundreds of mosques across the country, secular groups, women's groups or national newspapers.
Well it is ignoring it because the people who are anti-semitic or islamaphobic on the right are being ignored in favour of a singular focus on issues on the left.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/02/tories-islamophobia-bigotry
That's exactly my point - the media are ignoring it while hyper-focusing on issues in Labour, and therefore the general perception is that Labour is an institutionally racist party and Teresa May can get away with saying things like this knowing the extensive issues with racism in her own party go unreported.That's probably more to do with the media being owned by conservatives like Rupert Murdock than people not caring. People care about a lot of things, but the media ignoring them will make them less inclined to speak up because it's not the topic of conversation at the water cooler.
Are you trying to say there isn't a problem and it's some sort of conspiracy?
That's exactly my point - the media are ignoring it while hyper-focusing on issues in Labour, and therefore the general perception is that Labour is an institutionally racist party and Teresa May can get away with saying things like this knowing the extensive issues with racism in her own party go unreported.
I can't wait until the day Murdoch kicks the bucket. He's the biggest piece of shit in U.K. media. I know his family will carry on the name but iirc his sons aren't as massive pieces of shitThat's probably more to do with the media being owned by conservatives like Rupert Murdock than people not caring. People care about a lot of things, but the media ignoring them will make them less inclined to speak up because it's not the topic of conversation at the water cooler.
I disagree with the statement "There no discussion to be had". There absolutely is, and it isn't happening.
Everyone doesn't know that, that's the problem with with the media have.Everyone knows the right are racists and anti-semites. There no discussion to be had because nobody on the left is disagreeing. That's not ignoring it, it's a "water is wet" situation.
I disagree with the statement "There no discussion to be had". There absolutely is, and it isn't happening.
Everyone doesn't know that, that's the problem with with the media have.
I can't wait until the day Murdoch kicks the bucket. He's the biggest piece of shit in U.K. media. I know his family will carry on the name but iirc his sons aren't as massive pieces of shit
The discussion being "the right aren't racists," there is a conversation to be had, but that isn't it..
what's not a good look is when the BBC political editor decides there's a sliding scale of racism worth reporting.You have a point. However the "but they're racists too!" position isn't exactly a great look, is it?
Just tidying this up for you.The fact is the Labour anti-semitism issue is less deep, less numerous, and has more action done and yet it dominates the wider discussion.
You think there's less racism in the Tory party? And that they take more action on it?You'll have to provide the stats to make me actually say those words :p
You'll have to provide the stats to make me actually say those words :p
When Labour have antisemitic policies and antisemitic campaigns we can consider the two equivalentYou'll have to provide the stats to make me actually say those words :p
And I'm sure you have stats for what you did say.You'll have to provide the stats to make me actually say those words :p
You think there's less racism in the Tory party? And that they take more action on it?
Don't "sorry" me you fucking weasel.I don't know. That's why I'd like to find out. Clearly if it's as big as anti-semitism in the Labour party we'd have heard about it from avenues beyond our main media.
I don't, sorry. But given that there's plenty of talk about it, I'd assume people here did have given it's a key counter argument to the big issue at hand.
lolClearly if it's as big as anti-semitism in the Labour party we'd have heard about it from avenues beyond our main media.
Clearly if it's as big as anti-semitism in the Labour party we'd have heard about it from avenues beyond our main media..
I don't know. That's why I'd like to find out. Clearly if it's as big as anti-semitism in the Labour party we'd have heard about it from avenues beyond our main media.
You've been dunked on by a fair number of people on this page, mostly for the rampant Islamophobia in the Tory party, and I don't really want to pile on, but I think it needs to be noted that on the same page I post about how the "right to rent" has been ruled racially discriminatory and unlawful - a key part of the hostile environment that was the brainchild of Theresa May and enacted under the Cameron government, and one that overwhelmingly effected people of colour, it takes some fucking gall to make the post you did. Black people who have every right to be here have been made homeless, denied their right to medical care, and even deported to countries they've never been to or haven't been to since they were a child 40+ years ago, and you fucking say this shit.I don't know. That's why I'd like to find out. Clearly if it's as big as anti-semitism in the Labour party we'd have heard about it from avenues beyond our main media.
I don't, sorry. But given that there's plenty of talk about it, I'd assume people here did have given it's a key counter argument to the big issue at hand.
Remember Count Dankula? Me neither, but he was that wazzock who "was convicted of the "grossly offensive" antisemitic hate crime and fined £800 after teaching his girlfriend's pet pug dog to do a Nazi salute in response to him shouting the deeply antisemitic phrase, "gas the Jews", and then uploading a video of the act."
Well the BBC have decided to employ him.
I'm sure this will turn out to be Corbyn's fault somehow.